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Saturday, January 07, 2012

Derrick Goold: The Ballad of a Fallen Newspaper Box

When I was a kid…we had a daffy WWII vet who sold the “number”-fueled Daily News outside a wonderfully filthy go-go bar. One night a drunk cabbie ran him over flatline. He was never replaced.

As a kid one of my daily destinations was the entry into our subdivision at the corner of Hoover Avenue and whatever that length of Cherry Street was called that week (Bella Vista?). There, every morning, no matter the weather — rain, snow, sleet or sun-drenched — I found a new gift to unwrap. I could count on it being something different every time I went. Sometimes it would contain a surprise or two. And, as I opened this present each day, I knew it would contain exactly what I wanted.

On that corner was, of course, a street box with that day’s newspaper.

...The box scores were better.

As a boy, I clipped box scores — mostly just Yankees box scores — and pasted them into a spiral notebook, one for each season. I would also clip the standings and jot little notes in the margins about the schedule ahead (“Need to win in LA!”) or hitting streaks (“Kevin Maas homers again!”). My diligent clipping lost its zeal each season as the Yankees faded from the race, and it was rare that I clipped a box score after the standings showed they were “eliminated.”

...The newspapers that stood sentry here have retreated, surrendering the corner.

The box that opened up to a career is gone.

Repoz Posted: January 07, 2012 at 02:18 PM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Addison Russell T. Davies (chris h.) Posted: January 07, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4031267)
"I don't like change!"
   2. cardsfanboy Posted: January 07, 2012 at 03:05 PM (#4031274)
Nice piece of nostalgia.
   3. Bhaakon Posted: January 07, 2012 at 03:32 PM (#4031286)
Few, it's about people. I was afraid Wrigley had started crumbling again.
   4. bfan Posted: January 07, 2012 at 03:48 PM (#4031296)
I really miss hitching posts.
   5. Johnny Slick Posted: January 07, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4031432)
It's been years since I had me a carrier pigeon.
   6. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: January 07, 2012 at 10:28 PM (#4031470)
I thought the article was fine. Nostalgic, sure - but that's ok.

Also, the excerpt was a little misleading. "The box scores were better" referred to why he picked the Rocky Mountain News over the Denver Post - not that things used to be better back then.
   7. Sleepy's not going to blame himself Posted: January 08, 2012 at 04:03 AM (#4031530)
For out of market folks, Derrick Goold is an excellent writer, easily the best at STL-today. Unless someone else gives him a better deal, he'll be the face of STL baseball news, someday soon, and that's a good thing. He's very sabr-friendly, and has always seemed to keep an open mind. I'm generally a pretty vindictive #######, but I've been reading his stuff at STLtoday for about 5-6 years and have very rarely taken issue with something he's written, except for maybe one time (early on- 2006?) regarding Brendan Ryan's defense, and a couple times defending TLR (I've said a couple of things about DG that I regret, on VEB, but that was heat of the moment stuff). Over ~6 years, there's plenty of time for that.

He regularly uses advanced metrics in his STLtoday online articles, things like Dewan's fielding bible stuff; he talks about fangraphs, B-R, etc, in a way that sells to a general audience. If he decides to channel his inner Posnanski from time to time on his personal blog- that's cool, right? As long as he doesn't dare suggest that Starlin Castro is innocent until proven guilty?
   8. Howie Menckel Posted: January 08, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4031566)

speaking of fallen newspaper boxes, one from The National:

http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/index.php/topic,88043.0.html

   9. BDC Posted: January 08, 2012 at 10:34 AM (#4031568)
On-line box scores are of course significantly better than newspaper versions, except in one small but non-trivial respect: no computer screen is ever going to be as large as a broadsheet newspaper. You have to admit that having the whole day in baseball spread out on the table in front of you is a feature to be nostalgic for. At least till you get bacon grease all over it.
   10. Randy Jones Posted: January 08, 2012 at 10:38 AM (#4031569)
no computer screen is ever going to be as large as a broadsheet newspaper.


This is already untrue.
   11. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: January 08, 2012 at 11:03 AM (#4031572)
Yeah. Hell, there are plenty of gamers who use 40+ inch HDTVs as monitors.
   12. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: January 08, 2012 at 11:17 AM (#4031574)
My web scouring focus tends to be on the prospect side where Goold is a huge asset.
   13. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: January 08, 2012 at 01:33 PM (#4031630)
Just to echo Sleepy, Goold is an outstanding beat writer. And a heck of a nice guy.
   14. BDC Posted: January 08, 2012 at 01:36 PM (#4031632)
plenty of gamers who use 40+ inch HDTVs as monitors

Well, OK, so "no computer screen that is going to fit legibly under my breakfast plate." Though I suppose you'll tell me somebody's invented the Roku Table or some goddamn thing :)
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: January 08, 2012 at 02:12 PM (#4031668)
agree with sleepy on Goold, although I like Bernie also for similar reasons, Goold is just massively better and doesn't have the ego that Bernie seems to have. And both of them aren't members of the cult of Whitey that you get when having to read Hummel.


Well, OK, so "no computer screen that is going to fit legibly under my breakfast plate." Though I suppose you'll tell me somebody's invented the Roku Table or some ####### thing :)


It's not going to be long before a table with a digital reader built inside of it becomes affordable.
   16. Perry Posted: January 08, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4031946)
Agree with all the good words about Goold, he's aces. Fun read for me, since I live just a few miles from the town he's writing about and well remember the Denver newpaper wars.
   17. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: January 09, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4032503)
"I don't like change!"


"I don't like actually reading the articles, but I'll snark on them anyway!"
   18. Swedish Chef Posted: January 09, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4032538)
Well, OK, so "no computer screen that is going to fit legibly under my breakfast plate." Though I suppose you'll tell me somebody's invented the Roku Table or some ####### thing :)

It's on the way.

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