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Sunday, April 07, 2013

Detroit Tigers Max Scherzer pitches - ESPN

Depression is serious. Hopefully someone suffering from the illness will be helped by the Scherzers sharing their story.

Jim Furtado Posted: April 07, 2013 at 08:38 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Posted: April 07, 2013 at 11:02 PM (#4407200)
I completely missed this story last season somehow, even through the World Series and everything. The article was really well written and just really touching. I guess maybe it just struck a chord with me, having been through depression myself. Reading this actually brought tears to my eyes. What an awful story, and one that's just all too common. Depression really is unique in the way that the symptoms can interfere with treatment, and if you want to hide it from the world, you really can.
   2. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 07, 2013 at 11:18 PM (#4407209)

I will second that this was a very well written article. I don't want to turn this into an argument about psychological drugs, but I've heard the "I was feeling better so I stopped taking my medication" fallacy before, and it's heartbreaking because you know how the story is going to end.
   3. Mayor Blomberg Posted: April 07, 2013 at 11:25 PM (#4407214)
#2 - seconded on both counts.
   4. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 07, 2013 at 11:44 PM (#4407218)
I'm going to be starting a residency in psychiatry in less than three months so I know a little about antidepressants. If you are ever diagnosed with anything more than a mild depression, you probably need to be on an antidepressant for the rest of your life. If you do feel that you want to stop taking them, you need to do with careful observation/followup with an mental health professional.

The controversy with antidepressants are related to their effectiveness in treating mild depression when compared to placebo, not how effective they are in treating the more severe forms.
   5. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: April 08, 2013 at 12:39 AM (#4407230)
That you might need to take an anti-depressant is one thing, that you're currently taking the correct one is another.
   6. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 08, 2013 at 12:52 AM (#4407232)
True and it can be a challenge to find the right one.
   7. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:43 AM (#4407278)
It doesn't specify in the article, but if you're going to give up SSRIs you can't just do it cold turkey.
   8. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 09:52 AM (#4407316)
Yeah, I cold turkeyed off of Celexa when I was about 24 (Jesus, 9 years ago now) and would find myself like, crying every time the Beck album Sea Change came on my iPod (Jesus, there have been iPods for at least 9 years). That was one of the less frightening manifestations of withdrawal. I spent several days locked in a dark hotel room watching HBO, and am probably only alive today because to kill myself would have involved leaving the room to get something to do it with.

Famously, part of David Foster Wallace's story is ill-management of psych meds. He was on Nardil, which I guess is some seriously medieval ####. His doctors tried to wean him off that and onto an SSRI, it didn't work, and then he went back to the Nardil and it had stopped working, too. Within a year of going off his meds he was dead.
   9. GregD Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:12 AM (#4407323)
Yeah, I cold turkeyed off of Celexa when I was about 24 (Jesus, 9 years ago now) and would find myself like, crying every time the Beck album Sea Change came on my iPod (Jesus, there have been iPods for at least 9 years). That was one of the less frightening manifestations of withdrawal. I spent several days locked in a dark hotel room watching HBO, and am probably only alive today because to kill myself would have involved leaving the room to get something to do it with.
Glad you made it, through, man.
   10. Famous Original Joe C Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:14 AM (#4407325)
Voxter, speaking of which, I love your new handle. My favorite book with one of my favorite historical players. Wish I'd thought of it. :-)
   11. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:17 AM (#4407328)
I had sort of forgotten that my handle was a reference to Wallace. Yeah, I was pretty tickled when I hit on that particular pun.
   12. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:25 AM (#4407336)
I've been on celexa for about 10 years. Every once in a while I let my prescription run out because I'm a moron, and after a few days I fall into a serious funk. Maybe I'm subconsciously reminding myself how important the meds are.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:45 AM (#4407429)
Every time I think it would be nice to be someone who is capable of extreme moods(at least it would be nice in the positive aspect) these type of stories remind me...it's much better being a person who's mood goes 30-70 versus those who go 0-100.

   14. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: April 08, 2013 at 12:33 PM (#4407481)
Scherzer has long been one of my favorite players, and this story is just heartbreaking.
   15. depletion Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:22 PM (#4407961)
I will second that this was a very well written article. I don't want to turn this into an argument about psychological drugs, but I've heard the "I was feeling better so I stopped taking my medication" fallacy before, and it's heartbreaking because you know how the story is going to end.

How does "I returned to feeling like garbage and taking the meds made no difference, so I stopped taking them" work for you?
If you are ever diagnosed with anything more than a mild depression, you probably need to be on an antidepressant for the rest of your life. If you do feel that you want to stop taking them, you need to do with careful observation/followup with an mental health professional.
Russlan, they stop working after a while for me(4 to 6 months). All the Glaxo funded research in the world won't change this. I have 30 years of experience with this issue.
   16. Russ Posted: April 09, 2013 at 05:54 AM (#4408192)
Scherzer probably couldn't ask for a better manager than Jim Leyland to help him through this. I'm convinced that Jim Leyland is the best player's manager of my lifetime.

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