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1. JRVJ (formerly Delta Socrates) Posted: November 20, 2009 at 02:37 PM (#3392191)This is what I'm thinking. They can afford a few million to roll the dice on Wang getting back in form. If they non-tender, I gotta think he's damaged goods and probably only worth an NRI. Of course, pitching being what it is I expect the Royals to lock him up for Yuniesky Betancourt money.
They have to pay him at least $4M, and his arm is probably shredded?
They may try and retain him on an incentive laden deal, but I'm almost certain they non-tender him.
Like I said, if they non-tender him, I wouldn't want my team throwing any money at him.
Well, if you could do something like a $1M guarantee with some IP incentives and a $6M option, that would make sense for a lot of teams. I imagine that's what the Yankees will try to do after they non-tender, unless his arm is completely shot.
Wang was never a good bet to have a long career, so I'm not too upset about losing him. He's made about $12M in his career, so should be set for life either way.
How much does $4M really matter to the Yankees? After all, they're paying the equivalent of $9M a season to have another acquisition work on becoming the winningest pitcher in AAA history.
Nowadays, $4M is a decent middle reliever. Even if Wang's arm is borderline shredded, it's worth it to the Yankees to keep him around.
Nowadays, $4M is a decent middle reliever. Even if Wang's arm is borderline shredded, it's worth it to the Yankees to keep him around.
They seem to be operating on a "soft cap" around $200M. That $4M will buy them another arm for the pen, or go a good ways towards paying for a Mike Cameron type OF.
Plus, he's unlikely to pitch before mid-season. There are better fliers to take.
As Snapper alludes to, non-tendering him does not mean losing him. They can non-tender and then re-sign him for $1M with some incentives and a vesting option for the next year (or whatever). From the Yanks' perspective, the question is whether any other team would offer Wang anything close to $4 M. Assuming that answer is no, there's no reason for the Yanks to tender him even if they want to keep him.
If they non-tender him and don't try to sign him, then they think his arm is toast.
I would be really sad because I think the Yankees really screwed him up last year by panicking and jerking around his rehab. They might not owe him anything according to contract, but I think they have a moral obligation.
Panicking! He was record-setting abysmal.
I don't know what else they could have done. There was no sign in ST that he couldn't pitch. But he started the season and couldn't get anyone out.
I mean when they put him on the DL after the three disaster starts and then yanked him off before his rehab window was up because they were a little short in the bullpen. He came back looking wrong and then went out for good. He never should have been reactivated.
Something was clearly wrong when he started the year, which they appropriately reacted to by DLing him. Everything after that was to Wang's detriment.
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