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Thursday, October 07, 2010

Dioner Navarro leaves team after not making playoff roster

Beyond Paradiss: The Life of Dioner Navarro.

The Rays told C Dioner Navarro he was not going to be on the roster for the first round of the playoffs.

And Navarro told them he was going home.

The Rays wanted Navarro to remain with the team and keep working out so he’d be in shape in case they needed to add him to the roster in the event of injury, or for the next round should they advance.

INF/DH Willy Aybar, whose exclusion from the roster was a much bigger surprise (as the Rays chose OF/DH Rocco Baldelli and OF Desmond Jennings), and four left-off pitchers — RHP Andy Sonnanstine, RHP Lance Cormier and rookies RHP Jeremy Hellickson and LHP Jake McGee — all stayed with the team.

But Navarro, who was sent to the minors for two months and played sparingly after his Sept. 1 recall (10 games, five starts), declined, and seemingly brought his tenure with the Rays to a bad ending. He made $2.1 million this season and will be eligible for arbitration again.

Repoz Posted: October 07, 2010 at 02:03 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JJ1986 Posted: October 07, 2010 at 02:22 PM (#3657297)
I am more surprised by the fact that Lance Cormier is on the Rays...and has been for two seasons...how does a pitcher so bad make it that long with one team?
   2. The District Attorney Posted: October 07, 2010 at 02:23 PM (#3657299)
The Rays wanted Navarro to remain with the team and keep working out so he’d be in shape
To be fair, this would have taken a couple more years to accomplish.
   3. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 07, 2010 at 02:25 PM (#3657301)
I remember when Dioner was the Great Yankee Trade Chip for two, three years running.

Dioner Navarro
Ian Kennedy
Austin Jackson

And now what's his face.
   4. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 07, 2010 at 02:29 PM (#3657307)
They probably should have traded this guy after their World Series run. A lot of people were confused and gave him a lot of credit for their success.
   5. Kurt Posted: October 07, 2010 at 02:34 PM (#3657311)
Jeremy Hellickson didn't make the roster? Is anyone else surprised by this?
   6. NJ in NY (Now with Baby!) Posted: October 07, 2010 at 02:55 PM (#3657337)
I remember when Dioner was the Great Yankee Trade Chip for two, three years running.

Dioner Navarro
Ian Kennedy
Austin Jackson

And now what's his face.


Am I just being paranoid in thinking the point of this post is to lump these guys together as overrated Yankee prospects? If so, I would argue that Kennedy and Jackson, as of right now, look like contributing major league regulars at bargain basement prices, so they're fulfilling their potential.
   7. The District Attorney Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:00 PM (#3657346)
I bet Jesus Montero (assuming that's who the original poster means) is pretty good too.

Now, Ricky Ledee, he sucked.
   8. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:07 PM (#3657353)
Dioner did make an All-Star team, so it's not like he was a total flop.
   9. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:10 PM (#3657359)
What the heck happened to him after 2008? Did he just eat away his career?
   10. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:12 PM (#3657362)
Dioner did make an All-Star team, so it's not like he was a total flop


Dioner seems to have two playing modes with nothing in between:
1: pretty good, decent MLB starter
2: absolutely fricking horrible, worst player at any level above the Sallie LeagueNCAA
   11. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:14 PM (#3657363)
And Navarro told them he was going home.

That's particulary insulting to Tampa Bay if his home is in Caracus.
   12. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:16 PM (#3657368)
never saw him quit
   13. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:19 PM (#3657375)
Am I just being paranoid in thinking the point of this post is to lump these guys together as overrated Yankee prospects?


Yes. I'm lumping together the guys who had a run of off-seasons/trade deadlines where every Yankee deal was based around the uber-prospect they weren't going to promote. It's not about what they did once they were actually shipped out of town.

The Red Sox have had it in the past. See Hanleymania.
   14. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: October 07, 2010 at 03:32 PM (#3657385)
Dioner,

While you are a good defensive catcher, when your passport onto the Rays was you were a slightly better hitter than Kevin Cash and not as expensive as Toby Hall, you probably don't want to piss off the team you play for.

Have fun in Indianapolis next season.
   15. Dan Posted: October 07, 2010 at 04:39 PM (#3657436)
Jeremy Hellickson didn't make the roster? Is anyone else surprised by this?


It's not really too surprising. Once they shifted him to the bullpen he pitched like crap, so there was no reason to include him as a reliever. In reality they probably should have left him in the rotation, but that ship sailed weeks ago when they took him out of the regular season rotation.
   16. Textbook Editor Posted: October 07, 2010 at 04:51 PM (#3657449)
Gee, after Bartolo Colon picked up his ball and went home from the Red Sox, I don't think he got another invite... You'd think Navarro would be smart enough to know a move like this is basically the baseball equivalent of running naked through the streets covered in poo...

Teams don't sign quitters, Navarro. If someone told you otherwise, they're lying to you.
   17. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: October 07, 2010 at 05:02 PM (#3657464)
What's the Spanish for "Shutdown"? And does Navarro have a boat?
   18. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 07, 2010 at 05:27 PM (#3657486)
Gee, after Bartolo Colon picked up his ball and went home from the Red Sox, I don't think he got another invite... You'd think Navarro would be smart enough to know a move like this is basically the baseball equivalent of running naked through the streets covered in poo...

Colon signed with the White Sox the next season and actually pitched quite well when he was healthy.
   19. BirdWatcher Posted: October 07, 2010 at 06:29 PM (#3657537)
OK - I'm confused. Isn't Navarro still under contract, so who cares what he wants to do - isn't it up to the employer. How are ballplayers paid, is it a 12 month cycle or just during the season. Obviously, if it's the former, this move by Navarro should cost him money. If it's the latter, then players go into the playoffs are playing for "love of the game" ??
   20. KJOK Posted: October 07, 2010 at 06:36 PM (#3657543)
They should certainly fine him. It's not inconceivable that a Tampy Bay catcher could get hurt during the playoffs and they'd actually NEED Navarro, as bad as he is....
   21. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: October 07, 2010 at 06:38 PM (#3657546)
If it's the latter, then players go into the playoffs are playing for "love of the game" ??


They get playoff shares, but I think those are usually far less per game than the highest-paid players get in the regular season. The Yankees got $365,052.73 for their 15 postseason games last year, which works out to around a $4 million salary over 162 games.
   22. JJ1986 Posted: October 07, 2010 at 06:39 PM (#3657549)
He's going to be nontendered in seven weeks or so. He'd at most be missing 4 paychecks.
   23. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 07, 2010 at 06:41 PM (#3657551)
MLB salaries are paid in monthly installments during the regular season. Bonuses are paid out whenever the individual contract says they are.

As for what's up to the player and what's up to the employer, I don't think teams can force players who aren't on the active roster to stay with the team. Navarro's contractual obligation is to be available to play if the Rays choose to activate him. He doesn't have to be in the clubhouse in St. Pete today in order to be available for Saturday's game in Texas.
   24. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: October 07, 2010 at 06:42 PM (#3657554)
If it's the latter, then players go into the playoffs are playing for "love of the game" ?


Actually, there are things called "playoff shares" which pay players for the playoffs. It's some percentage of playoff revenue and players get to vote on how much their teammates get paid.
   25. The District Attorney Posted: October 07, 2010 at 06:55 PM (#3657580)
He doesn't have to be in the clubhouse in St. Pete today in order to be available for Saturday's game in Texas.
Even if that's technically so, obviously you know that that's not what anyone actually does, with the possible exception of if he were the Game 3 starting pitcher.

Anyway, let's see if he does show up in Texas tomorrow. (I hope you're not going to suggest that he can still make Sunday's game if he's in Venezuela on Saturday.)
   26. Mike Emeigh Posted: October 08, 2010 at 12:43 AM (#3657975)
It's not inconceivable that a Tampy Bay catcher could get hurt during the playoffs and they'd actually NEED Navarro, as bad as he is....


At this point, if they need a catcher, they'd probably activate Jose Lobaton (if he's healthy), who's just about the same player.

-- MWE
   27. jwb Posted: October 08, 2010 at 05:02 AM (#3658368)
As far as I can tell, he lives in Riverview, a Tampa suburb, so this is much ado about nothing.
   28. Shock Posted: October 08, 2010 at 05:30 AM (#3658381)
At this point it seems like hyped catching prospects fail even more often than pitching ones.

(yes, yes, joe mauer, I know)
   29. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 08, 2010 at 06:50 AM (#3658401)
Have fun in Indianapolis next season.


What makes you think the Pirates want him?

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