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Thursday, October 11, 2012

Division Six OmniChatter

By the end of the day, at least two teams will be eliminated since baseball is a cruel sport and October is a harsh mistress. Or something like that.

Gamingboy Posted: October 11, 2012 at 01:04 AM | 1479 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1401. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4265595)
Orioles 2-1 in one-run games this series.

Four-for-four for five-gamers.
   1402. Baldrick Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4265596)
WOOHOO.

What a great day of baseball.
   1403. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4265597)
Woo for the O's. May they have a better Game 5 than I'm watching right now.
   1404. Bourbon Samurai Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4265599)
Hell of a thing O's!
   1405. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4265600)
Can we stop complaining about Verlander getting a big zone?
   1406. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4265601)
How does that make any ####### sense. Ibanez was hot...Chavez hasnt hit anything in weeks.
   1407. PepTech Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265603)
I am feeling pretty bad for A-Rod at this point.

I will never say this at any point in my lifetime.
   1408. Kiko Sakata Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265604)
Yes! Orioles!! Orioles and Nationals both get Game 5's tomorrow. I kind of wish I was still living in Maryland.
   1409. JJ1986 Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265605)
Tomorrow Chris Stewart will hit for A-Rod
   1410. Chip Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265606)
If Eric Chavez hits a game winning home run for the yankees I will rrequire like 10 baby walruses


With no one on base, that would have to have been one impressive HR.

And now neither Verlander nor Sabathia will start Game One of the LCS.
   1411. hokieneer Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265607)
20/20 games in the ds round. Cant ask for anything more otjer than the reds getting a ####### hit with men on.
   1412. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265609)
This was predestined. Selig must be creaming in his pants at the thought of four game fives.

   1413. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265610)
Four five game series. Hooray baseball!
   1414. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4265612)
I have a flight that takes off @ 8PM tomorrow. Really hoping for a Yankee blowout, or a delayed flight.
   1415. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4265613)
Giraedi fell in love with his own genius and made a ridiculous move there.
   1416. Austin Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4265614)
20 DS games is absolutely amazing. I wish the score of the DET-OAK game weren't so lopsided, though...
   1417. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4265615)
But I still feel like Verlander feels more dominant than Santana and Halladay.


Santana at his best felt way more untouchable than Verlander to me. It may just be chronological proximity to Pedro & Randy, so I thought pitcher dominance was greater. It might have to do with sheer appearance -- Santana's shortarm motion, etc. But I also think it's true that Santana, at his best, was better than Verlander has been so far. Santana's best ERA+ was 10 points better than Verlander's, and he was obviously the best pitcher in the league for three consecutive seasons. He also K'd more dudes.
   1418. boteman Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:12 AM (#4265616)
Hey, even if you're a Yankees fan, this means MOAR BEISBOL!! How that can possibly be a bad thing?
   1419. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:13 AM (#4265618)
"We now join the Tigers and A's, already all but over!"
   1420. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:14 AM (#4265620)
The Yankees had four straight chances to walk these guys off and couldnt get a man to second...

Cano was total garbage too.
   1421. fra paolo Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:14 AM (#4265621)
So if Verlander gets into a jam, how long does one wait?
   1422. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4265622)
A hit! The 10-run rally begins!
   1423. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4265625)
So if Verlander gets into a jam, how long does one wait?


Until it's tied.
   1424. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4265628)
I mean....you need a homer there...give the active home run leader a chance to run into one indtesd of sending up Eric freaking Chavez.
   1425. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:16 AM (#4265630)
So it begins. The A's will win this game.
   1426. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:17 AM (#4265632)
I forgot Gomes existed.
   1427. Gamingboy Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:19 AM (#4265635)
CHECKLIST:
---EVERGREEN---
Conradian Play [X ]
Web Gem [X X X X]
Baserunning blunder [ ]
Play at the plate [ ]
Replay review [ ]
Ump blows call [ ] (Blown call eliminates team [ ])
Dramatic late-inning homer [X ] (WERTH)
Double Play ends an inning [ X]
1-2-3-4-5-6 inning [ X]
Strike out of side [X ]
Stolen base [ X]
Caught stealing [X ]
Gamesmanship []
Shapeshifting Strike-zone [X ]
THIS TRAIN! [X]
"They're down to their last X...." [ ]
Pitcher gets a hit [ ]
Non-pitcher bunts [ X] (AND IT WORKED)
Regular Season pitcher warms up [X ] (Playoff starting pitcher warms up in pen [X ])
Game needs to start on TNT (with exception of A's vs. Tigers) [ X]
---SF at CIN specific---
Dusty Baker with Giants [ X]
WILD BRIAN WILSON APPEARS [ X]
Cain perfecto flashback [ ]
Buster Posey does something awesome [X X ] (GRAND SLAM and THE THROWOUT PORTION OF A STRIKEOUT/THROWOUT DP)
Joey Votto gets back to normal, does something awesome []
Big Red Machine referenced [ X]
Willie Mays referenced [ ]
---STL at DC specific---
Strasburg in the Dugout [X ]
Crowd chants "We Want Strasburg" [ ]
Bryce Harper does something awesome [ ] (Harper strikes out instead [ ])
Pujols mentioned [ ]
FREESE! [ ]
Teddy [X ]
Flashback to game 6 of 2011 WS [ ]
Davey Johnson managerial career recap [ ]
Matheny's playing career [ ]
---BAL at NYY specific---
Raul Effing Ibanez comes to the plate [X ]
Orioles hold one-run lead at any point of the game [X]
Yankees get run in half-inning immediately after Orioles score [ ]
Thome career retrospective [ ]
Buck Showalter as Yankee manager [ ]
Joe Saunders' Wild Card performance flashback [ ]
Ichiro does something awesome [ ]
Tyler Teagarden shows up []
A-Rod strikes out, assuming he even plays now that Raul Ibanez is Mr. Effing October [X ]
---DET at OAK---
Bernie Lean explained [ ]
Verlander no-nos flashback []
Prince Fielder robbed of extra-bases [ ]
Moneyball mentioned [ ] (Mention of Brad Pitt [ ])
Pat Neshek's son mentioned [ ]
Trout mentioned in any way (fish or player) [ ]
Miguel Cabrera does something awesome [ ]
Verlander hits 98+ MPH after 80 pitches [ ]
Mention of the tarps [ ]
   1428. Bourbon Samurai Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:19 AM (#4265636)
I mean....you need a homer there...give the active home run leader a chance to run into one indtesd of sending up Eric freaking Chavez.


Eric Chavez does love losing division series. That's something A-Rod doesn't bring to the table.
   1429. Guts Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:20 AM (#4265637)
Hm....getting mildly interesting...

Nevermind.
   1430. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:20 AM (#4265638)
Ten year old kid doing the Bernie Lean...love it.
   1431. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:21 AM (#4265639)
####

I can't explain it, but I just don't like the Tigers at all.
   1432. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:21 AM (#4265640)

Nice job Justin.
   1433. crict Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:23 AM (#4265642)
If the Tigers move on, will Leyland change the way he uses his bullpen? Not sure what to do, Albuquerque is the only guy I trust right now.
   1434. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:23 AM (#4265643)
Verlander is pitching the ninth, right?
   1435. Good cripple hitter Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:23 AM (#4265645)
I can't explain it, but I just don't like the Tigers at all.


I'm the same way. I love Comerica, the fans there are great, I always feel like I should be cheering for the Tigers in the postseason. Then I start watching the games, and I just can't do it.
   1436. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:25 AM (#4265650)

Good shot of Dave Dombrowski, GM of the Detroit Tigers and ####### rich dad from an 80s teen movie.
   1437. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:25 AM (#4265651)
Verlander last 2 seasons: 245 IP per, 165 ERA+, .987 WHIP, 9.0 K/9, 4.2 K/BB, 0.8 HR/9

Felix '09-'10: 244 IP per, 172 ERA+, 1.096 WHIP, 8.3 K/9, 3.18 K/BB, .6 HR/9
Kershaw '11-'12: 230 IP per, 156 ERA+, 1.00 WHIP, 9.3 K/9, 4.08 K/BB, 0.6 HR/9

So, yeah, if Verlander didn't have the whole throw 100 when I feel like it thing he wouldn't be as big a deal.
   1438. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:27 AM (#4265653)
Walks, gomes had my favorite quote after the cuerto kicking incident. "if you don't want to get kicked, don't stand within kicking distance."
   1439. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:27 AM (#4265655)

Come on Justin, three more outs!
   1440. fra paolo Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:28 AM (#4265656)
Does any division winner have home-field against the wild card? Or do they go by won/lost record?
   1441. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:28 AM (#4265657)
All right. Starting in about 2 minutes, we will see the greatest comeback in playoff history.

What? No, YOU'RE in denial!
   1442. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:28 AM (#4265658)

Then I start watching the games, and I just can't do it.

Is it the Delmon Young? I apologize for that, I really wish I could do something about it.
   1443. fra paolo Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:30 AM (#4265663)
I'd have someone warming up, even Valverde, just because.
   1444. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:30 AM (#4265665)
I think with a six-run lead, Verlander going back out for the ninth is kind of silly. The pen sucks, but c'mon, Leyland will have to use them again.
   1445. Gamingboy Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:31 AM (#4265667)
Justin Verlander don't give a crap about any Bernie Leaning or Moneyballing...
   1446. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:33 AM (#4265668)
I think with a six-run lead, Verlander going back out for the ninth is kind of silly.

It's well within a normal pitch count for him. And I doubt anyone in the pen is as good a bet to get the outs.
   1447. Austin Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:33 AM (#4265669)
Surely the A's can rally for six runs here with two out and nobody on...
   1448. PeteF3 Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:34 AM (#4265670)
Does any division winner have home-field against the wild card?


Yes. The only way a WC can ever have home field advantage is for a.) the play-in game against the other WC, or b.) the World Series.
   1449. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:34 AM (#4265672)
Go Tigers in the ALCS. Congrats to Oakland on a great season.
   1450. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:35 AM (#4265673)
Congratulations to the Tigers fans here. The better team won tonight. I hate this team so, so, much. You should consider that a compliment.
   1451. boteman Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:35 AM (#4265674)
Congrats to the Athletics on a hell of a season.
   1452. Guts Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:35 AM (#4265675)
So this Verlander dude may make it in the major leagues.
   1453. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:35 AM (#4265676)
Done in by facing Verlander twice in a short series and this odd "homefield" advantage.

I'd say the Tigers are in trouble, but the Yankees and O's have looked like dog ####.
   1454. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:36 AM (#4265678)
The A's were the better team--they won 94, the Tigers only 87. But thanks, Athletic in Powderhorn. I hope the A's are back next year.
   1455. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:36 AM (#4265679)

Condolences to all the great As fans here and congratulations on a wonderful season.
   1456. crict Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:36 AM (#4265680)
Please no injuries during the celebrations.
   1457. Gamingboy Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:37 AM (#4265681)
Congrats to Oakland on a splendid season. Hell of a year in a year full of great stories.

And the Tigers are dangerous. It doesn't matter who wins the AL East showdown, the Tigers will be tough. Congrats to them and their fans.
   1458. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:37 AM (#4265682)
Thank goodness for that.
   1459. Gamingboy Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:40 AM (#4265685)
As I noted in the Division Seven Omnichatter that I just submitted (I left out "series and day" in tribute to my gaffe today), tomorrow will see Game 23 of a Best-of-23 Series and the first playoff night game in Washington history.
   1460. hokieneer Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:40 AM (#4265686)
Tigers have a solid rotation and a couple big bats. They'll have a great chance against whomever in the alcs.
   1461. DKDC Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:42 AM (#4265687)
Sign outside Yankee stadium on the way out:

Next game:
Today
5:07 PM

I love baseball.
   1462. Austin Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:42 AM (#4265688)
Well, that was disappointing, but you have to tip your cap to Verlander for being so untouchable tonight. The A's should be proud to have made it this far.

Unfortunately, there's now a pretty good chance that the "wrong" team will win all four Division Series. At that point, I'd be left rooting for... man, I don't even know. I guess the Tigers and the Giants? Something like a Yankees-Cardinals World Series would be such a gigantic letdown after all of the excitement of the pennant races and the DSes. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
   1463. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:43 AM (#4265689)
Yeah I know the Tigers are not the best team in the world, but they have something that teams that go far in the playoffs have-great pitching. Verlander, Scherzer, Fister, and now Sanchez (who has pitched well over the past month)....now we don't need our bullpen to implode and the offense to do a little better...
   1464. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:43 AM (#4265690)
The A's were the better team--they won 94, the Tigers only 87. But thanks, Athletic in Powderhorn. I hope the A's are back next year."
Well, I did try to specify that they were the better team tonight. But regardless of regular season records, the Tigers came into an elimination game on the road and kicked ass all night. They deserve to be going to the ALCS.
   1465. Chris Fluit Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:45 AM (#4265693)
The magical season for the A's is over . The magical,season for the O's continues at least one more night.
   1466. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:47 AM (#4265696)
Maybe put Scherzer in the bullpen for the ALCS as a relief ace?
   1467. hokieneer Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:48 AM (#4265697)
Yankees not in prime time?
   1468. Gamingboy Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:51 AM (#4265698)
Yankees not in prime time?


Due to the fact that there would be travel considerations had Oakland won.
   1469. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:51 AM (#4265699)
I guess it's because there was a chance it would be the only game tomorrow, and the time had to be locked in.
   1470. boteman Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:55 AM (#4265703)
Eckersley: Alburquerque won't be kissing any balls any time soon.
   1471. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:09 AM (#4265712)
Yankees not in prime time?


They want to make sure innings 10+ are in prime time.
   1472. rlc Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:43 AM (#4265718)
So after their day off, the Tigers will start a two game homestand against an opponent coming off at least 34 innings in three days - not bad.
   1473. Cooper Nielson Posted: October 12, 2012 at 02:10 AM (#4265721)
Tigers are my favorite team, A's are my second favorite team, and I don't really have a third favorite team. So this was a little bittersweet, but I'm happy.

Anyway, congratulations to Oakland on a great and surprising season. I hope you win the AL West many years in a row. Now let's go, Tigers!
   1474. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: October 12, 2012 at 02:37 AM (#4265725)
I don't know if they showed this on TV, but the crowd chanted "Let's Go Oakland!" for about 5 minutes after the final out. The A's players eventually came out of the dugout and waved to the crowd and the crowed applauded and chanted and everyone was pretty emotional. Pennington threw a bunch of stuff into the crowd (batting gloves I think?), it was a really great scene. Totally different than the dejected heartbroken scenes of 2000, 2002, and 2003 at the same stage.

Congrats to the Tigers fans here. Well, not RMc, that guy is an idiot, but Walewander, Vaux, Cooper et al., best of luck in the ALCS, doubly so if you play the Yankees.
   1475. Austin Posted: October 12, 2012 at 03:00 AM (#4265728)
#1474 - That's awesome. It's great to hear that the fans and players viewed the loss the right way.
   1476. sardonic Posted: October 12, 2012 at 03:14 AM (#4265731)
Finally just got home from the A's game, and this was definitely by far the best baseball atmosphere/crowd I've ever been a part of -- way better than ALDS Game 3 in 2006, when the A's actually advanced. The crowd was relentless in cheering on the team despite falling behind early, and really put everything into trying to pump the players up.

After the final out, the fans really tried to show their appreciation to the players, and I'm proud to have been a part of it, and to be part of a fanbase that can appreciate and recognize a season like this. This was the ultimate "gravy" season, and even though it didn't end in a World Series, it'll probably still go down as one of the best for me.

Here's a link to a video I took of the chanting after the final out.
   1477. Cooper Nielson Posted: October 12, 2012 at 03:27 AM (#4265733)
Oakland fans -- the ones who show up -- are great, some of the best in baseball. And though I know this goes against the conventional wisdom, I think the Coliseum is also a great place to watch a game, even with everything they've done to it to make it worse.
   1478. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: October 12, 2012 at 04:43 AM (#4265735)
1474 & 1476, that is fantastic. I'm a strong believer in the idea that Lew Wolff is not only full of but entirely composed of bull####. So I love seeing fans support a winning team in Oakland.
   1479. asinwreck Posted: October 12, 2012 at 08:13 AM (#4265757)
If a massive earthquake is going to disrupt a crosstown World Series this year, it will screw up the beltway.
   1480. JL Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:12 AM (#4265813)
Congrats to the As on a great season and a great run to win their Division. I do hope this is a step forward in getting the fans out to see them. They sure seemed like a very likeable group.

As a Tigers fan, I am happy the Orioles extended to gane 5. Keeps the No 1 starter from both teams away from the Tigers for game 1. Also seems to give the Tigers a real advantage, as Game 1 is tomorrow. How does that work for traveling? Seems a bit confusing, though I like that it keeps baseball in the spotlight.
   1481. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM (#4265868)
So that is what it is like to have an elite pitcher for a deciding game? The A's could have used a Verlander type from 2000-2003 which might have had them win a Game frickin 5 for once.
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