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Thursday, August 07, 2014

Dodgers Acquire Roberto Hernandez

The second white flag trade Hernandez has been involved in! (Wait, what?)

The Phillies announce that they have traded Roberto Hernandez to the Dodgers for two players to be named later or cash considerations…

The Phillies signed Hernandez to a one-year, $4.5MM deal last winter, and he posted a 3.87 ERA with 5.6 K/9 and 4.1 BB/9 in 121 innings for them, with a strong 52.0% ground ball rate. Hernandez, formerly known as Fausto Carmona, has played parts of nine seasons, also spending time with the Indians and Rays.

Hernandez’s role with the Dodgers is unclear. They have a strong rotation of Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Dan Haren and Josh Beckett.

The District Attorney Posted: August 07, 2014 at 02:34 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dodgers, fausto carmona, phillies, roberto hernandez, trades, transactions

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   1. TerpNats Posted: August 07, 2014 at 02:48 PM (#4766478)
Well, if one player was named later, why not two more?
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4766481)
Roberto Hernandez has played for Cleveland, Tampa Bay, Philly, and now LA. The old Roberto Hernandez also played for those four teams (as well as six other teams).
   3. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:05 PM (#4766493)
Well, if one player was named later, why not two more?
RDF
   4. Batman Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4766496)
Unless I'm missing somebody, Hernandez is second among active pitchers in games under .500, behind his new teammate Jamey Wright.
   5. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4766497)
As their 6th starter?
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:13 PM (#4766504)
He may replace Beckett, who has struggled in his return from the DL, in the rotation.
   7. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:18 PM (#4766516)
I'm still tickled by the name thing. When he chose "Fausto," did he know about the Faust legend?
   8. zonk Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:18 PM (#4766518)
Can't we just go back to calling him Fausto Carmona so I stop thinking "wait, isn't he like 50?"
   9. Bug Selig Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:20 PM (#4766522)
I'm still tickled by the name thing. When he chose "Fausto," did he know about the Faust legend?


When you pay for fake papers, do you choose the name? I assumed he just acquired the papers of an actual person who would have already had a name.
   10. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4766524)
#1 wins.
   11. nick swisher hygiene Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4766526)
as opposed to acquiring the papers of the Unknown Soldier or something?
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4766529)
"Fausto Carmona" is Spanish for "Max Powers."
   13. Batman Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4766533)
Roberto took his fastball down to the crossroads in 2007 and came away Fausto.
   14. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4766540)
Roberto took his fastball down to the crossroads in 2007 and came away Fausto.

Faustoberto has 6.1 lifetime WAR--6.2 of that came in 2007...
   15. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:42 PM (#4766567)
When you pay for fake papers, do you choose the name? I assumed he just acquired the papers of an actual person who would have already had a name.


I had not considered that aspect of it.
   16. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:45 PM (#4766572)

Unless I'm missing somebody, Hernandez is second among active pitchers in games under .500, behind his new teammate Jamey Wright.


Jamey Wright is still pitching?
   17. Swedish Chef Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4766585)
I'm still tickled by the name thing. When he chose "Fausto," did he know about the Faust legend?

He (or his family) bought the identity of another younger boy. The real Fausto's mother went public when she couldn't squeeze more money out of Hernandez's family.
   18. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 07, 2014 at 04:06 PM (#4766592)
Jamey Wright is still pitching?


On pace for his 4th straight season of 60 innings and sub-4 ERA!
   19. Walt Davis Posted: August 07, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4766624)
In Latin America, the name of your first pet and the street you grew up on is your fake baseball name, not your porn name.

Although, really, there wasn't another Roberto Hernandez whose identity they could have bought? It's like if Joe Smith had to play under the name Giancarlo Stanton.
   20. Howie Menckel Posted: August 07, 2014 at 05:18 PM (#4766631)

some reports have Beckett to DL, some say done for season

08.07: Roberto Hernandez told reporters that he is starting for the Dodgers on Friday in Milwaukee. (That's the rotation spot that belongs to Josh Beckett, who has been a mess over the past couple of weeks. Hernandez was acquired from the Phillies on Thursday afternoon for two players to be named later. He had a 3.87 ERA in 121 innings with Philadelphia, but the right-hander's lack of control and poor strikeout rate make him a poor fantasy bet no matter where he's pitching.)
   21. Sleepless in Munich Posted: August 07, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4766637)
I like the top of his bb-ref page:

Roberto Hernandez (CAR-moan-ah)
   22. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 07, 2014 at 05:48 PM (#4766647)
Thanks, Roberto. You were better than I thought you would be. Which vaunted prospect will the Phillies bring up to replace him?
   23. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: August 07, 2014 at 06:14 PM (#4766660)
This was one of those deals that is not exciting, but had to be done; the next in line for LA was Carlos Frias. They really needed a healthy starter.
   24. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: August 07, 2014 at 06:21 PM (#4766665)
Thanks, Roberto. You were better than I thought you would be. Which vaunted prospect will the Phillies bring up to replace him?


MLBDepthCharts says it's Sean O'Sullivan. One would think that career 5.90 ERA can only go down.
   25. BochysFingers Posted: August 07, 2014 at 07:40 PM (#4766711)
MLBDepthCharts says it's Sean O'Sullivan. One would think that career 5.90 ERA can only go down.

Now there is a player in need of a new identity.
   26. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: August 07, 2014 at 08:26 PM (#4766736)
4. Batman
Unless I'm missing somebody, Hernandez is second among active pitchers in games under .500, behind his new teammate Jamey Wright.
Right you are! The Top Ten (Bottom Ten?), just using guys who have pitched in the Majors in 2014:

1. Jamey Wright -32 (96-128)
2. Roberto Hernandez/Fausto Carmona -25 (65-90)
3. Charlie Morton -24 (35-59)
4. Paul Maholm -23 (77-100)
4. Kyle Farnsworth -23 (43-66)
6. LaTroy Hawkins -22 (70-92)
6. Zach Duke -22 (54-76)
8. Jeremy Guthrie -21 (77-98)
8. Felipe Paulino, -21 (13-34)
10. Justin Germano, -20 (10-30)
   27. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: August 07, 2014 at 08:27 PM (#4766738)
Thanks, Roberto. You were better than I thought you would be. Which vaunted prospect will the Phillies bring up to replace him?


MLBDepthCharts says it's Sean O'Sullivan. One would think that career 5.90 ERA can only go down.

It appears I was too optimistic: O'Sullivan started tonight's game, and has given up 5 runs in 5 innings to the Astros so far (on 3 homers!).
   28. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 07, 2014 at 09:07 PM (#4766753)
@Davo, he threw a scoreless 6th before being lifted. Got the in-game ERA down from 81.00 after 4 batters to 7.50 when he was lifted. Movement in the right direction.
   29. AndrewJ Posted: August 07, 2014 at 10:09 PM (#4766792)
And O'Sullivan gets a no decision thanks to Mr. Howard.
   30. Walt Davis Posted: August 07, 2014 at 11:19 PM (#4766831)
4. Kyle Farnsworth -23 (43-66)

That's some quality work there.
   31. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: August 07, 2014 at 11:23 PM (#4766834)
10. Justin Germano, -20 (10-30)

That's... impressive. Looking him up, it appears that Germano went 2-10, 6.75 in 12 starts with the 2012 Cubs. I have no memory of this whatsoever.

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