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Dodgers, Astros play quickest World Series game since 1992, leave fans wanting more | USA Today

LOS ANGELES — Some fans spent almost as much time in traffic after they exited the 5, 110 or 101 freeways before the Game 1 of the World Series than they did watching it.

The Dodgers’ 3-1 victory over the Houston Astros at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday took 2 hours, 28 minutes, making it the quickest World Series game since 1992. Dodgers ace Clayton Kershaw’s 11 strikeouts through seven innings of work in a game that featured nine hits by both clubs certainly helped speed things along.

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 25, 2017 at 01:04 PM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: if game lasts longer than four hours, call your doctor, world series

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   1. Man o' Schwar Posted: October 25, 2017 at 02:09 PM (#5561949)
FOX execs must be on suicide watch at this point. First, no Yankees so they can't shove baseball's new superstar down our throats every 6 minutes. Now, fast games with minimal in-inning pitching changes.

What's next, Dodgers in 4?
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 25, 2017 at 02:24 PM (#5561962)
FOX execs must be on suicide watch at this point.

Now that the suits have given the green light to ad breaks between at bats, I'm hoping next year's World Series pits Minnesota against Colorado.
   3. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: October 25, 2017 at 02:27 PM (#5561967)
the green light to ad breaks between at bats


This can't be ranted about enough. This is a ####### abomination.
   4. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 25, 2017 at 02:30 PM (#5561970)
The most amazing thing I've seen in baseball was a TLR-managed Oakland team playing a full nine-inning Cactus League game in 1:46.
   5. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 25, 2017 at 02:33 PM (#5561975)
Btw, this was only the Dodgers' third game of 2017 that took under 2:30, matching their number of non-extra inning games lasting at least 4:07.
   6. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: October 25, 2017 at 02:35 PM (#5561978)
What's next, Dodgers in 4?


Yes, but don't worry: with Rich Hill and Alex Wood starting, you'll get lots of pitching changes.
   7. Rally Posted: October 25, 2017 at 02:43 PM (#5561986)
Dodgers ace Clayton Kershaw’s 11 strikeouts through seven innings of work in a game that featured nine hits by both clubs certainly helped speed things along.


The strikeouts don't help except in preventing base runners and therefore more batters each inning. A game with similar hit totals, 4 strikeouts, and more groundouts would be quicker. But it certainly helped that he got quick strikeouts instead of a bunch on 3-2 counts, only 84 pitches thrown. I didn't time them but it sure seemed both pitchers were taking little time in between pitches, and working fast like that can really add up.

The Cubs-Nats game 4 was a low scoring game, 1-0 until the Nats broke it open in the top of the 8th, but my recollection is they passed the 3 hour mark before the 8th inning even started. I'm sure I'm not off by too much since the final time of the game was 3:57 despite featuring only one more run than yesterday's game.

Now that I look it up, pace between pitches probably is not the issue, it's simply the pitches thrown. Cubs pitchers were wild, walking 9 batters. NLDS4 had 334 pitches, one every 42.6 seconds. WS1 had 211 pitches, one every 42.1 seconds.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: October 25, 2017 at 04:28 PM (#5562095)
NLDS4 had 334 pitches, one every 42.6 seconds. WS1 had 211 pitches, one every 42.1 seconds.

A difference of a half-second per pitch shall hereafter be known as a "Contreras."
   9. Man o' Schwar Posted: October 25, 2017 at 05:00 PM (#5562133)
Half a second per pitch only adds 1 minute to the game for every 120 pitches thrown. So even at the same pace as the NLDS pitches were thrown, last night's game would have been extended by fewer than 2 minutes. That's barely long enough for FOX to run 20 in-game T-Mobile ads.

"Cubs pitchers were wild" is an understatement. Even when they weren't walking guys, there were endless 2-ball and 3-ball counts. Cub batters tried to help the cause by swinging wildly at every pitch, but their eagerness to send everyone home on time couldn't offset the Mr. Magoo-like performance of the bullpen.
   10. SoSH U at work Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:01 PM (#5562155)
Now that I look it up, pace between pitches probably is not the issue, it's simply the pitches thrown. Cubs pitchers were wild, walking 9 batters. NLDS4 had 334 pitches, one every 42.6 seconds. WS1 had 211 pitches, one every 42.1 seconds.


It was also pace, because pure game time also includes commercial breaks. If you back out the commercials (roughly 46.7 minutes in WS1 vs. 55 minutes in NLDS4, working on a 2:45 per commercial estimate), you get one pitch every 29 seconds last night vs. one every 33 or so in DS4.

   11. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:11 PM (#5562160)
Hell, ads between at-bats is just the beginning. Another three years and they'll be doing ads between pitches.
   12. Man o' Schwar Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:28 PM (#5562166)
Hell, ads between at-bats is just the beginning. Another three years and they'll be doing ads between pitches.

Kershaw drops a curveball low for ball one. And don't let ulcerative colitis throw your social life a curveball - hit a home run for your GI tract with Entyvio.
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:32 PM (#5562169)
Kershaw drops a curveball low for ball one. And don't let ulcerative colitis throw your social life a curveball - hit a home run for your GI tract with Entyvio.

That's pretty close to actual Pat Hughes.
   14. Nasty Nate Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:33 PM (#5562170)
They do ads during pitches already: those terrible green screens behind home plate that distort the ball when it goes in front of them and make the ballparks look slightly tacky.
   15. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:48 PM (#5562176)
They do ads during pitches already: those terrible green screens behind home plate that distort the ball when it goes in front of them and make the ballparks look slightly tacky.


I kept wanting to click the big red button behind home plate, I think it was a youtube ad.
   16. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:51 PM (#5562180)
Another three years and they'll be doing ads between pitches.

Infomercials, when Pedro Baez is on the mound.
   17. phredbird Posted: October 25, 2017 at 08:20 PM (#5562226)

I kept wanting to click the big red button behind home plate, I think it was a youtube ad.


Me too.
   18. Rally Posted: October 25, 2017 at 08:50 PM (#5562269)
Me three. The perfect centering of that ad is good work. They have definitely been noticed.
   19. Walt Davis Posted: October 25, 2017 at 08:57 PM (#5562279)
What they'll do is pause the stream once the batter starts to swing which will (a) build the tension, (b) allow our "expert" analyst to predict what's going to happen plus full percentage breakdowns on the average outcome of a swing on this count and pitch type and (c) allow them to tell you that this swing is sponsored by Ashley Madison.
   20. Howie Menckel Posted: October 25, 2017 at 09:46 PM (#5562325)
guys, I'm not kidding at all that within 5 years in the U.S., you'll be able to legally gamble on what the next batter will do.

25 to 1 that the modest-power INF HRs on the next pick. click a $20 bet, win $500. ok, most likely lose $20. but it's coming.
   21. phredbird Posted: October 25, 2017 at 10:18 PM (#5562369)
Sheesh, i thought seager hit a pop up and it just kept going.
   22. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 26, 2017 at 11:31 PM (#5563310)
guys, I'm not kidding at all that within 5 years in the U.S., you'll be able to legally gamble on what the next batter will do.

If it becomes part of the broadcast, that would be the point I'd turn off sports for good. I don't gamble, but I have no moral issues with it. I would just be very turned off by the unseemly nature of reducing the game of baseball to nothing more than background for an endless string of prop bets.
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: October 26, 2017 at 11:53 PM (#5563318)
I would just be very turned off by the unseemly nature of reducing the game of baseball to nothing more than background for an endless string of prop bets.

I expect there to be two channels airing the game simultaneously - so no worries there.

or just props available as legal but just off mainstream level. gamblers will find what they need - even moreso if legal. and millennials are not gambling so much, so all the more reason to keep two large audiences mostly separate.
   24. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 27, 2017 at 12:00 AM (#5563320)
guys, I'm not kidding at all that within 5 years in the U.S., you'll be able to legally gamble on what the next batter will do.

One of the best people I ever knew used to sit up in the upper deck of Griffith Stadium in the 40's and 50's,** behind home plate, and make odds on literally every pitch to a group of bettors who were clustered around him. He put four kids through college by knowing the right odds, and never welshed on a bet in the 50+ years he was a bookie taking bets on virtually any proposition.

** Besides what my friend told me directly, the backup source for that story is the late Marty Zad, Shirley Povich's long time colleague at the Washington Post. He knew my friend very well and had many similar stories to tell about him.

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