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Friday, August 24, 2012

Dodgers reportedly win waiver claim on Gonzalez

The Los Angeles Dodgers have been awarded the waiver claim on Boston Red Sox first baseman Adrian Gonzalez, Bill Shaikin of The Los Angeles Times reported Friday. The report has been confirmed by CBSSports.com insider Jon Heyman

“This would make the race in the NL West more interesting and I wonder what effect this would have on the Dodger clubhouse”

The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: August 24, 2012 at 03:18 PM | 351 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. asinwreck Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4217074)
Sean McAdam also reports that the Dodgers have been awarded the waiver claim on Josh Beckett.

Could the Red Sox pry a decent package out of the Dodgers by just threatening to let the claims stand on both players? Beckett is owed $34 million after this season, and the Red Sox could well just want to be rid of that. Gonzalez had more perceived value, but also a much larger (and longer) contract.

Anyway, when was the last multi-player blockbuster trade during the waiver period?
   2. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:33 PM (#4217078)
Could the Red Sox pry a decent package out of the Dodgers by just threatening to let the claims stand on both players?


Only if the amount of salary picked up is worth as much to the Dodgers as what they'd give up. By making the claim, the Dodgers have shown that Gonzalez is worth his salary to them.
   3. JE (Jason) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4217080)
   4. JE (Jason) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:44 PM (#4217085)
Ken Rosenthal is pro-trade:
Gonzalez is not the Red Sox’s problem, even if his phone was the source of the infamous text message to ownership requesting a clear-the-air session to complain about manager Bobby Valentine. But A-Gon is owed $127 million from 2013 to ’18, and considering his dropoff in power this season, that will not be money well spent.

The Phillies blew it when they refused to take advantage of a similar waiver claim earlier this month and move the declining, soon-to-be-34-year-old Cliff Lee and the $90 million plus left on his contract to the Dodgers.

Gonzalez, 30, is younger than Lee, but also showing signs of regression. True, he entered Friday with the sixth highest OPS of any first baseman in the majors. But his home runs the past four seasons have declined from 40 to 31 to 27 to 15 (with 37 games remaining). His current .469 slugging percentage would be the lowest for any full season in his career.

A major league source told me last week that the Red Sox would trade Gonzalez only in a “transformative” – or franchise-changing – deal. Dumping his contract alone would be transformative, and never mind that the Red Sox traded for Gonzalez only 21 months ago and signed him shortly thereafter. A lot has happened since then, don’t you think?...

Some fans will fantasize that the Sox could redirect the money saved on Gonzalez to other players, but in reality few superstars hit the open market these days. While the Sox would reap massive financial benefits by getting under the $189 million luxury-tax threshold by 2014, the new labor agreement limits spending on both domestic and international amateurs. What would be the point of saving all of that money, particularly when true impact talent is difficult to acquire?

Gonzalez, for all of his struggles earlier this season, still might be that type of talent; he has batted .355 with a .954 OPS in 223 plate appearances since June 22. Then again, he is trending toward becoming the Red Sox’s version of Mark Teixeira, a useful but overpaid slugger. If the Red Sox included significant cash in the deal, they could justify asking for Lee, Webster or any of the other Dodgers’ top prospects. And starting pitching is their biggest need.
   5. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4217086)
@GordonEdes Blockbuster: Red Sox, Dodgers working on deal that would send AGon, Crawford, Beckett and Punto to LA.
   6. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:55 PM (#4217090)
Oh no, not Punto!
   7. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:57 PM (#4217091)
@GordonEdes Blockbuster: Red Sox, Dodgers working on deal that would send AGon, Crawford, Beckett and Punto to LA.


Crazy trade or craziest trade?
   8. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:58 PM (#4217093)
@jonmorosi Source confirms @GordonEdes report: #Dodgers "close" to obtaining Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, Nick Punto.

@jonmorosi Source: If #Dodgers - #RedSox blockbuster occurs -- and it is "close" -- Boston would send some cash to LA.
   9. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4217095)
Just let Beckett go. They already made the claim. Let him go. What is complicated about this?
   10. Darren Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:01 PM (#4217098)

@GordonEdes Blockbuster: Red Sox, Dodgers working on deal that would send AGon, Crawford, Beckett and Punto to LA.


Now THAT would be something. The Sox would trade those players and get back the reset button from an LA computer.

(Someone must be messing with Edes.)
   11. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:02 PM (#4217099)
He has 10-5 rights and that goes for waiver deals too.
   12. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:05 PM (#4217101)
@jonmorosi Source: If #Dodgers - #RedSox blockbuster occurs -- and it is "close" -- Boston would send some cash to LA.

Getting rid of Beckett is nice, but I really don't think it is worth selling low on Gonzalez. This contract looked like a steal before the season, at least compared to the other mega deals out there, a bad three months isn't enough to give up on him.

IOW, good work new Red Sox administration! If this happens (and I am sure it won't because it would just be too awesome), I look forward to only being worried about Tampa, Baltimore and Toronto over the next few years.

   13. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:13 PM (#4217104)
Getting rid of Beckett is nice, but I really don't think it is worth selling low on Gonzalez. This contract looked like a steal before the season, at least compared to the other mega deals out there, a bad three months isn't enough to give up on him.

But throw in Crawford's contract, too, and it gets interesting from the Red Sox, POV. That's a lot of dead weight off the payroll.
   14. JJ1986 Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:17 PM (#4217107)
I don't think the Red Sox would want to punt 1B for that long. Anderson/Lavarnway/Gomez is not Major League caliber and there's no one on the FA market (unless they bring back Youkilis).
   15. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:21 PM (#4217109)
It's hilarious reading the opinions on Lee from the baseball columnists. He was portrayed as borderline heroic for turning down the Yankees and taking 'less' with the Phillies. Now? Waiver fodder. We'll be back with more from the Chris Farley show after this. (remember... when... you... you... signed Cliff Lee for over twenty million dollars... that was... that was awesome)
   16. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:22 PM (#4217112)
But throw in Crawford's contract, too, and it gets interesting from the Red Sox, POV. That's a lot of dead weight off the payroll.

That's true, but Crawford could conceivably be good again in the future once he is healthy. And the Sox are kicking in cash. Dumping a franchise first baseman to unload salary seems like a waste. And dumping a guy like A-Gon at the absolute nadir of his value just seems like a mistake.

For a team that is supposed to compete annually, this is a bizarre move and they aren't going to be able to just reload at first.
   17. JE (Jason) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:25 PM (#4217116)
I don't think the Red Sox would want to punt 1B for that long. Anderson/Lavarnway/Gomez is not Major League caliber and there's no one on the FA market (unless they bring back Youkilis).

Is there another Anderson who plays first base?
   18. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4217117)
I don't think the Red Sox would want to punt 1B for that long. Anderson/Lavarnway/Gomez is not Major League caliber and there's no one on the FA market (unless they bring back Youkilis).


Anderson is gone - not that he'd be a real solution anyway. They could probably sign the corpses of Berkman or Reynolds or something although I guess that's pretty much the equivalent of punting.
   19. dirk Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:27 PM (#4217118)
assuming this trade goes through, valentine is a certain lame duck and at least one of mills and farrell return. youkilis is coming back next season at first base, no doubt.
   20. RJ in TO Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:29 PM (#4217121)
"Some cash" has to be on the order of around $100 million, right?
   21. JJ1986 Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:32 PM (#4217123)
Is there another Anderson who plays first base?


Forgot about that. Adam LaRoche has some kind of option after the season, so he might be available.

I wouldn't do it. I'd let Beckett go and trade Punto for anything and keep the other two.
   22. karlmagnus Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:34 PM (#4217127)
This has all the hallmarks of a Lucchino coup. Trade away Gonzo, Beckett and Crawford at a time the fan base won't squawk, then use your unparalleled bad judgement and non-existent negotiating skills to waste the entire amount on John Lackeys, presented to you on a plate by Boras at only three times market price. This is NOT the way to improve the team.

I'm only reconciled to this if they trade Henry and Lucchino as well as the players.
   23. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4217131)
I like Gomez' bat.
   24. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4217138)
If anyone is anxious for new new news I've been following twitter for the last hour and there hasn't been much other than WTFs.
   25. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4217144)
I'm doing the same thing.
   26. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4217145)
Thanks. I was wondering.
   27. JE (Jason) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4217150)
Is this the smoking gun? https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/239134274576592896
   28. McCoy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4217151)
If they need a first basemen the Red Sox can work out a trade for Alfonso Soriano and Bryan LaHair. After all the money they freed up I think they can afford it.


Does anyone think Beckett would be crazy enough to block the claim to LA? Why would he do that?
   29. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4217152)
http://distilleryimage2.instagram.com/17402d02ee3911e18c23123138106a37_7.jpg

A-Gon's poster is being taken down at Fenway.
   30. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:59 PM (#4217154)
Coke to JE!
   31. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:59 PM (#4217155)
Has James Loney cleared waivers? He was scratched.
   32. asinwreck Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4217156)
Has James Loney cleared waivers?


Can you imagine someone claiming him?
   33. JE (Jason) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4217157)
Double post.
   34. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4217158)
@PeteAbe FWIW, just heard that 2 deals are on table: a mega deal with Crawford and one with "just" Beckett and Gonzalez.

Wouldn't a planned deal without Beckett make sense here?
   35. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:01 PM (#4217159)
Gonzales is in the lineup tonight. According to the MLB gamecast, at least.
   36. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4217160)
I cant believe this would happen. Would have been better off keeping rizzo.
   37. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4217161)
@alexspeier Punto and Gonzalez were both summoned into clubhouse from dugout
   38. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4217162)
@nickcafardo Gonzalez scratched from sox lineup
   39. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4217163)
The lineup JUST changed on the gamecast. Now Gomez is at first. This is happening, folks.
   40. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4217164)
holy ####
   41. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4217165)
BBTF meltdown in ...3...2...1...
   42. McCoy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4217166)
Now I know why we didn't get raises for 6 months. Magic Johnson was hoarding his cash so he could give it Adrian Gonzalez and Josh Beckett.
   43. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4217167)
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
   44. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4217168)
My heart is even beating faster.
   45. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4217169)
This is crazy. I guess we'll get to see how Cherrington can do with cash to play with now. Which I guess is good, 'cause he sure sucked at working on a budget.

I think the Sox are more likely to go after trades than signings -- Hamilton won't make sense, doubt Jackson, probably not Greinke.

So, that means, who: J-Up, Choo...who else might be available?



   46. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4217170)
Honestly, have to wait to see what the trade ends up being. I don't really have a knee-jerk opinion. This one may require some reflection.
   47. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4217171)
?@Sean_McAdam #RedSoxTalk Gonzalez, Beckett, Crawford involved in potential blockbuster with Dodgers

What a scoop! What I love about twitter is that you can be an hour late to news and you can look like an idiot.
   48. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4217174)
I just turned on MLB tv. Wonder if they'll have Heyman or Robo to blabber on about this. Crap, and I'm supposed to meet the gf and one of her friends for dinner. I don't think I can use massive crazy trade as an excuse to beg off. Drats!
   49. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4217175)
@BostonRedSoxPR: UPDATED Ciriaco 3B, Ellsbury CF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz DH, Ross RF, Lavarnway C, Gomez 1B, Aviles SS, Podsednik LF, Lester P
   50. McCoy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4217176)
What's the point of having a baseball channel if they don't cover this?
   51. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4217177)
Crap. An actual game on MLB TV. Booooooo!
   52. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4217178)
I take that back about McAdam:

@Sean_McAdam Both James Loney (Dodgers) and Adrian Gonzalez (Red Sox) scratched from respective lineups. Announcement on deal coming soon. #RedSoxTalk
   53. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4217179)
It looks done, folks.
   54. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4217181)
@BostonRedSoxPR: UPDATED Ciriaco 3B, Ellsbury CF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz DH, Ross RF, Lavarnway C, Gomez 1B, Aviles SS, Podsednik LF, Lester P

For a second I thought that was who they'd added to the trade! They're really pissed about the Pesky funeral...
   55. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4217182)
Why would the Sox want Loney? He's terrible.
   56. The George Sherrill Selection Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4217185)
Why would the Sox want Loney? He's terrible.

Isn't he up for free agency anyway?
   57. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4217187)
Isn't he up for free agency anyway?

I guess he holds a place for the last 40 games.
   58. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4217189)
Isn't he up for free agency anyway?


BBRef says he's 3rd year arb eligible.

Assume he's in the trade to balance the salaries a little bit. The Dodgers won't need him, so the Sox take him and subtract Loney's salary from the cash they'd send LA.
   59. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4217190)
@alexspeier According to an industry source, the #redsox and #dodgers are currently reviewing medicals as a prelude to a possible deal
   60. McCoy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4217191)
The biggest trade of the season and no major TV outlet is even covering it! I want to know what Harold Reynolds, John Kruk, and Peter Gammons thinks about this! What does Sutcliffe?
   61. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:17 PM (#4217192)
This is a terrible deal. Go home and watch my 2004 DVD.
   62. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:17 PM (#4217193)
No mention of it on the Red Sox broadcast.
   63. Carry The Zero Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:20 PM (#4217196)
they were talking about it right at the start of the broadcast.
   64. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4217197)
they were talking about it right at the start of the broadcast.

Still deciding how to slander the players on the way out? I kid! I kid because I love!
   65. nick swisher hygiene Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4217198)
hang on, is Crawford hurt at the moment or was he pulled as well?
   66. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4217199)
Crawford's hurt.
   67. Carry The Zero Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4217200)
Still deciding how to slander the players on the way out? I kid! I kid because I love!


hahaha yeah, they were just blabbing on about how "it could just be precautionary"
   68. McCoy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:27 PM (#4217203)
20 second update on ESPNews about the trade followed by a weird 1 minute ESPN promo about Luck and RGIII. Good to know, ESPN, good to know.
   69. Monty Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4217204)
What a scoop! What I love about twitter is that you can be an hour late to news and you can look like an idiot.


I've got a guy on my Twitter feed who consistently posts big news stories 48 hours late. If it's on purpose, he's a comic genius.
   70. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:29 PM (#4217206)
Man, the Red Sox are ###### up.
   71. asinwreck Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:29 PM (#4217207)
hang on, is Crawford hurt at the moment or was he pulled as well?


Coming back the day after Tommy John surgery would be gutty (and, no doubt, desired by the Red Sox front office).
   72. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4217208)
Holy crap. This team has already done its level best to kill my interest in the Sox, and if this deal goes down as reported it'll be the final nail in the coffin. I'm sure they'll drag me back in eventually - they always do - but it's going to take longer than usual this time. I can see the argument for getting out from under Beckett and Crawford's salaries, but at this point I've lost all confidence that the current management team knows what it's doing and won't piss the savings away on equally bad deals for worse players.
   73. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:31 PM (#4217209)
The Red Sox are incredibly ###### up. This is a team that called somebody who called somebody who called somebody else who called some punk teenager into his office and told him to take down the Adrian Gonzalez poster before he was scratched from the lineup.
   74. karlmagnus Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:31 PM (#4217210)
This was an ideal time to trade Fatso. Bet they resign him, probably on a 2 year deal and we're stuck with that pile of xxx and have lost Gonzo.

These people are UTTERLY incompetent.
   75. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4217211)
I ran the numbers for a Sox therapy post. Based on rough WAR projections, this is the amount per season the Red Sox will overpay Crawford, Gonzalez, and Beckett over the next six years:

2013: $19M
2014: $25M
2015: $20M
2016: $25M
2017: $29M
2018: $10M
Total: $128M

If the Dodgers are paying most of the freight, that's a ######' A trade for the Red Sox. You make that deal and figure out how to spend the money later.
   76. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4217213)
Jesus! This is incredible. Wow. I don't know what I think, but I can't believe Boston is dumping all those guys. Holy moly.
   77. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4217215)
This was an ideal time to trade Fatso.
To a national league team? You're... oh, right, you're km.
   78. McCoy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4217217)
I have to disagree with this making Valentine a lame duck. The choices were basically support the players or support the manager and doesn't this show support for the manager?
   79. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4217218)
Sounds like Sands, De La Rosa, DeJesus, Loney, AND a prospect to BOS?
   80. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4217220)
The new market inefficiency: sign players to bad contracts, giving away players or draft picks in the process, then give the players away!
   81. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4217221)
I have to disagree with this making Valentine a lame duck. The choices were basically support the players or support the manager and doesn't this show support for the manager?
Yup. This all fits with a Bobby V redemption opportunity in 2013, maybe even into 2014 with the next as a bridge year. Yikes on all counts.
   82. Swedish Chef Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4217222)
The choices were basically support the players or support the manager and doesn't this show support for the manager?

If they do this trade for the manager's sake the tail is really wagging the dog.
   83. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4217223)
I have to disagree with this making Valentine a lame duck. The choices were basically support the players or support the manager and doesn't this show support for the manager?

Who knows? We'd just be guessing at this point. If Liverpool sign a striker we know what's what, though!
   84. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4217224)
If they do this trade for the manager's sake the tail is really wagging the dog.
Unless the Sox are sending along a metric ####-ton of cash, they're making this trade for baseball reasons first and foremost.
   85. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4217226)
The new market inefficiency: sign players to bad contracts, giving away players or draft picks in the process, then give the players away!


The Blue Jays were on to that one years ago.
   86. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:40 PM (#4217232)
The Blue Jays were on to that one years ago.


They never gave up anything for Wells. Sox gave up prospects (Rizzo) for A-Gone and a pick for Crawford.
   87. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4217235)
They have to sign Ellsbury to big money now. And they need pitching. And bring back Youk. Then, they're back in business, with Salty, Middlebrooks, Ross. Maybe Ciriaco can play SS and give them a little offense.
   88. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4217236)
Alex Speier reports it's done pending medical review. He's confirming a series of reports from Gordon Edes.

Crawford, Gonzalez, Beckett, Punto, and (maybe) cash for Rubby De La Rosa, another "prospect", plus youngish flotsam James Loney, Jerry Sands, Ivan de Jesus.

This looks like a pretty amazing deal.
   89. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4217237)
I like Gomez' bat. I wouldn't mind him as a DH. I think he can hit in the AL.
   90. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4217238)
The amount of cash will be interesting.
   91. karlmagnus Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4217239)
How can they trade Crawford? He's on the DL
   92. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4217240)
How can they trade Crawford? He's on the DL
No rule against it. Just usually not done.
   93. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4217243)
This is the nuttiest waiver deal of all time and will probably be the nuttiest I ever see in my lifetime. Now, go Giants!
   94. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4217244)
They can't cut a guy on the DL.
   95. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4217245)
Mystery prospect is Allen Webster according to Morosi.
   96. McCoy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4217246)
Man, just think what Theo could have gotten if he had signed Albert Pujols this offseason. Albert Pujols, Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Marmol, and Carlos Zambrano to the Dodgers for De La Rosa and another prosepct is a helluva lot better than anything he's done so far.
   97. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:46 PM (#4217247)
@jonmorosi Source: Allen Webster will go to #RedSox in #Dodgers trade.

coke to the guy I named my fantasy league after.
   98. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:46 PM (#4217248)
One of my cats is named "Rubby"!
   99. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:47 PM (#4217249)
This is friggin' insane.

The Dodgers just took on like $250 million in contracts - one of which is good. Boston should not have dumped A-Gon, but if it gets you out from under Crawford and 2 years of Beckett then....

Also, count me in the camp that thinks this cements Bobby-V as the manager and someone who they are willing to go with for the foreseeable future. I don't know why they would come to that conclusion - he makes terrible moves - but damn.

   100. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4217250)
@bradfo Source: Don't expect any Red Sox deal with Dodgers to be completed tonight
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