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Friday, January 11, 2019

Dodgers trading for catcher Russell Martin

Low cost (in talent) move for the Dodgers which allows them to wait for their fantastic catching prospects to be ready.

The Dodgers appear to have addressed their catching situation for 2019, as they have acquired Russell Martin from the Blue Jays via trade. Los Angeles also yielded cash considerations, while Toronto netted Minor League righty Andrew Sopko and Minors infielder Ronny Brito. Sportsnet’s Arash Madani was first to report the swap.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 11, 2019 at 03:12 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: blue jays, dodgers, russell martin

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   1. Paul D(uda) Posted: January 11, 2019 at 03:49 PM (#5804778)
This seems like a decent return for Toronto for a 36 year old catcher.
   2. akrasian Posted: January 11, 2019 at 04:13 PM (#5804787)
Depends on how much of his salary they pick up of course. But yes, not a bad return as such. No likely stars, but a couple of guys who meet be useful in the majors.
   3. jmurph Posted: January 11, 2019 at 04:15 PM (#5804789)
I'm not totally sure I knew Martin was still playing.
   4. Davo cant be eatin thirty hot dogs every day Posted: January 11, 2019 at 04:25 PM (#5804793)
3- Ha, I had forgotten the *other* way: I didn’t know Martin came up as a Dodger!
   5. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: January 11, 2019 at 04:40 PM (#5804794)
Martin's old for a ballplayer and one would probably be smart to worry about both his sinking BABIP and the fact that his playing time has steadily diminished, but if the Jays really are covering most of the salary this could be worse. I'm glad they didn't give up real talent for one season of Cervelli, who's a better player at this point but would cost concordantly more. Though I still think resigning Grandal would have been the better move.
   6. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 11, 2019 at 05:12 PM (#5804809)
Depends on how much of his salary they pick up of course.


I read that the Blue Jays are covering all but a couple million.
   7. Charlie Gibbs Fracture Zone Posted: January 11, 2019 at 06:58 PM (#5804838)
LA is paying $3.6M, per Sportsnet.
   8. bbmck Posted: January 11, 2019 at 07:01 PM (#5804839)
2015 Jays who ended the playoff drought on the 2019 Jays:

Justin Smoak - 1/8 left on contract
Kevin Pillar - 2019 is 2nd arb year
Devon Travis - 2019 is 1st arb year
Dalton Pompey - 2019 is pre-arb

Marcus Stroman - 2019 is 2nd arb year
Aaron Sanchez - 2019 is 2nd arb year
Ryan Tepera - 2019 is 1st arb year

301 played for one franchise 2015-2018 and played in 2015 and 2018 so it's not actually low as that doesn't include players changing teams this off season.

19 - BOS
15 - WSN
14 - ARI, LAD
13 - CLE, HOU, NYM
12 - DET, TEX
11 - CHC, COL, LAA
10 - MIN, NYY, PHI, SFG, STL

9 - BAL, CIN, KCR, MIL, TOR
8 - CHW, PIT
7 - ATL, MIA
6 - OAK, SEA
5 - SDP
1 - TBR: Kevin Kiermaier
   9. Jeff Frances the Mute Posted: January 11, 2019 at 09:22 PM (#5804861)
LA is paying $3.6M, per Sportsnet.

His CBT cost is the exact amount that the Blue Jays are sending to the Dodgers. So for CBT purposes he costs the Dodgers $0.
   10. akrasian Posted: January 11, 2019 at 10:49 PM (#5804869)
His CBT cost is the exact amount that the Blue Jays are sending to the Dodgers. So for CBT purposes he costs the Dodgers $0.

Which means that the Dodgers have plenty of tax room to either add several players during camp or during the season as needed and still stay under the luxury tax, or if they decide to take a shorter contract, add either Machado or Harper and stay under the extra penalty level of the luxury tax. All without giving up any of their top prospects.
   11. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 12, 2019 at 12:26 AM (#5804876)
I guess the Dodgers were somehow able to wrestle one last useful season out of Kemp in his return and think they can do the same with Martin? Honestly, I’m not convinced that Martin is as good as Barnes at this point. Meh.
   12. akrasian Posted: January 12, 2019 at 01:09 AM (#5804877)
Honestly, I’m not convinced that Martin is as good as Barnes at this point. Meh.

Possibly not, but I suspect they expect Barnes to bounce back a bit next season - but they still need a decent defensive catcher who might hit a little to fill in, at least until Will Smith is ready, hopefully by the summer. And if Martin doesn't count against the luxury tax, that means they can fill in elsewhere late in the offseason or at the trade deadline.
   13. asinwreck Posted: January 12, 2019 at 10:39 AM (#5804887)
Has anyone asked if Kershaw likes throwing to Martin? "Hey Clayton, we can get Russell back without giving up much in money or talent. Did you like throwing to him?"
   14. Paul D(uda) Posted: January 12, 2019 at 11:44 AM (#5804896)
I don't know anything about prospects, but these guys seem decent, if not elite, no? A. Decent SS putting up those numbers has promise, and the other seems like a possible reliever or fifth starter, which seems good for Martin. Do I have rose coloured glasses on?
   15. Jack Sommers Posted: January 12, 2019 at 02:14 PM (#5804917)
Has anyone asked if Kershaw likes throwing to Martin? "Hey Clayton, we can get Russell back without giving up much in money or talent. Did you like throwing to him?"



Looking at 2009-2010 splits, he seemed to do better most of the time when being caught by someone other than Martin


2009 Kershaw by catcher

Split             G    IP ER  ERA  PA  R HR BB  SO SO/W   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS BAbip
Brad Ausmus       7  42.0  6 1.29 166  4  0 28  42 1.50 .133 .282 .170 .453  .194
A
.JEllis        1   2.0  0 0.00   7  0  0  1   4 4.00 .000 .143 .000 .143  .000
Russell Martin   23 127.0 47 3.33 528 45  7 62 139 2.24 .222 .315 .319 .634  .302 


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 1/12/2019.


and 2010

Split             G    IP ER  ERA  PA  R HR BB  SO SO/W   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS BAbip
Brad Ausmus       2  12.2  8 5.68  55  8  2  4  13 3.25 .260 .315 .400 .715  .314
Rod Barajas       5  32.0  9 2.53 128 11  3  9  29 3.22 .197 .252 .350 .602  .233
A
.JEllis        3  22.0  4 1.64  88  4  1  8  26 3.25 .177 .253 .228 .481  .250
Russell Martin   22 137.2 45 2.94 577 45  7 60 144 2.40 .219 .309 .319 .628  .291 


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 1/12/2019.
   16. akrasian Posted: January 12, 2019 at 02:53 PM (#5804927)
I don't know anything about prospects, but these guys seem decent, if not elite, no? A. Decent SS putting up those numbers has promise, and the other seems like a possible reliever or fifth starter, which seems good for Martin. Do I have rose coloured glasses on?

Yes, you do. Sopka probably will be in the majors for part of 2019, at least. His high end does seem to be a back of the rotation starter, but at league minimum that's useful. Brito is young, but a long, long way from the majors. He hit okay in his second trip to the Pioneer League when he was quite young for the league - but the Pioneer League is short season, a serious hitter's league, and Brito struck out a third of the time there. He also is eligible for the rule 5 draft after the 2020 season, so he is running short of development time and has a long ways to go. He could make it, but there's a real risk that he'll need to be added to the 40 man while not being nearly ready for the majors - and never develop the rest of the way.

It's not a bad move for Toronto - save over $3 million, get a guy who can be a callup when injuries strike, and get a lottery ticket. But I doubt the Dodgers regret the trade either.
   17. Paul D(uda) Posted: January 12, 2019 at 03:45 PM (#5804934)
Thanks akrasian

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