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Dominican police seek ex Angels Vladimir Guerrero on brawl

The National Police on Tuesday announced an all points bulleting for the arrest of Major League Baseball star Vladimir Guerrero, for the alleged aggression against to a Police major and for unleashing a brawl in a discotheque.

Police spokesman Maximo Baez said one of Guerrero’s brothers, two cousins and a worker are being held for their alleged part in the melee.

“Police chief major general (Jose) Polanco instructed Baní regional (south) director general (Juan Ramon) de la Cruz Martinez to continue the pursuit,” Baez said.

Thanks to Chet.

Repoz Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:46 AM | 43 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. RJ in TO Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:50 AM (#4102508)

Police say he was swinging at everything.

2. Shredder Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:54 AM (#4102516)

Police say he was swinging at everything.

And still making contact! Actually, this story is kind of boring. Without machetes, or people set on fire, it's barely newsworthy.

3. Ray (RDP)

Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4102523)

A discotheque?

4. Natty Fan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM (#4102530)

Unleashing?

5. Tim Wallach was my Hero Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM (#4102534)

And still making contact!

That means he was not trying to hit cutoff men.

6. scareduck Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:19 AM (#4102539)

Police say he was swinging at everything.

RJ wins this thread.

7. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM (#4102541)

I would have felt more confident with Danys Baez in the bullpen if his name was "Maximo Baez".

8. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM (#4102546)

RJ wins this thread.

I'd say we can safely close up shop and call it a day.

9. ASmitty Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM (#4102550)

As someone who works in the criminal justice field, I am deeply saddened by the fact that I cannot charge someone with the crime of "unleashing a brawl in a discotheque."

I'm looking at you, legislative branch!

10. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:31 AM (#4102556)

RJ wins this thread.

I came in here to make exactly that joke. /sadface

11. zonk Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:33 AM (#4102559)

As someone who works in the criminal justice field, I am deeply saddened by the fact that I cannot charge someone with the crime of "unleashing a brawl in a discotheque."

I'm looking at you, legislative branch!

I think you can - the charges just won't stick...

Some many years ago, as responding officers broke up a barfight that a buddy of mine was earnestly trying to get involved in a Buster Bluth sort of way, he asked the officer threatening him with arrest exactly what the charge would be, and the cop responded "being a ######### and accessory to #############\"

12. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:58 AM (#4102591)

alleged aggression against to a Police major and for unleashing a brawl in a discotheque

I wish I was man enough to have been charged with this at some point in my youth. Alas...

13. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM (#4102597)

Just a police major? Get back to us when he assaults a judge. And on a beach, no less! Much more treacherous footing than a discotheque.

14. ASmitty Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM (#4102613)

Get back to us when he assaults a judge.

"The 28-year-old Ponson is accused of committing violence alone or in the company of others in public, kicking a person in the head and battering a person by hitting him in the face with his fist."

Man, these other countries have all the fun. "Unleashing a brawl in a discotheque"? "Committing violence alone or in the company of others in public"?

EDIT: Also, I like that Ponson "kicked" one guy, but he didn't "punch" the other. Rather, he "battered" him by "hitting him in the face with his fist."

15. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim

Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:15 AM (#4102620)

When it's bad things, I'd prefer that we all use "ex-Oriole" instead of "ex-Angel" as the prefix. Or "Ex-po."

16. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:17 AM (#4102623)

Given how Vlad looked on the basepaths the last several years, I'm amazed he was able to successfully flee the scene.

17. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM (#4102645)

one of Guerrero’s brothers

No, not Wilton, too!

18. Don Malcolm

Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM (#4102663)

Well, if your future prospects had tanked once the projection systems named after you had been left by the side of the road in favor of one named after a non-descript white utility infielder, you'd be ready to "unleash" yourself, too.

19. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM (#4102716)

Well, if your future prospects had tanked once the projection systems named after you had been left by the side of the road in favor of one named after a non-descript white utility infielder, you'd be ready to "unleash" yourself, too.

What?

20. AROM Posted: April 10, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4102720)

Wilton, the projection system used by Prospectus before Pecota.

21. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4102721)

Well, if your future prospects had tanked once the projection systems named after you had been left by the side of the road in favor of one named after a non-descript white utility infielder, you'd be ready to "unleash" yourself, too.

What?

forget it..he's rolling

22. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM (#4102724)

was it really that long ago?

23. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4102726)

forget it..he's rolling

I can't wait to see him on the Yankees.

24. Olaf Posted: April 10, 2012 at 12:56 PM (#4102735)

Well, for someone who wants to "forget it," jmac, you've at least clarified the full breadth of DM's joke. For my money, all projection systems should be named after folks with the surname "Guerrero." That doesn't give us as many choices at the major league level, but just look at the number of minor leaguers who could provide some really bizarre new names. Wascar, anyone??

25. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 01:06 PM (#4102748)

This is the first time that I realized Vlad was retired. That makes me sad...

26. Jason Michael(s) Bourn Identity Crisis Posted: April 10, 2012 at 01:11 PM (#4102753)

Man, these other countries have all the fun. "Unleashing a brawl in a discotheque"? "Committing violence alone or in the company of others in public"?

Don't forget "aggravated pimping."

27. rlc Posted: April 10, 2012 at 01:28 PM (#4102767)

Police say he was swinging at everything.

"We tried to let him walk, but he just kept swinging."

28. Willie Mayspedes Posted: April 10, 2012 at 02:08 PM (#4102849)

Can you imagine how bad it would hurt if Vlad threw a pint glass at you during the brawl?

29. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 02:51 PM (#4102956)

he has turned hisself in (and denies everything, of course)

30. ASmitty Posted: April 10, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4102962)

Vlad is unleashing his innocence.

31. Booey Posted: April 10, 2012 at 03:00 PM (#4102974)

This is the first time that I realized Vlad was retired. That makes me sad...

Has Vlad officially retired? Or is he still just waiting around for a call from somebody?

32. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 07:39 PM (#4103327)

#31 - the latter. I guess I just meant that I realized he's likely not going to play in the majors again. Although I suppose he could always pull a Sammy Sosa.

33. Jose Canusee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4103371)

Clearly the A's did their homework signing good citizen Manny instead of this guy.

34. zonk Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:50 PM (#4103573)

Can you imagine how bad it would hurt if Vlad threw a pint glass at you during the brawl?

You could always just raise your hands and pretend you were the cutoff man if you saw him rearing back with it...

35. Ray (RDP)

Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:59 PM (#4103610)

Wilton, the projection system used by Prospectus before Pecota.

I kind of liked Wilton the projection system. It may not have worked well, but Gary's goal was to try to predict breakout seasons, and as hard as that is, it's more interesting to me than projection systems that are very conservative.

36. Kurt Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:04 PM (#4103614)

For my money, all projection systems should be named after folks with the surname "Guerrero." That doesn't give us as many choices at the major league level, but just look at the number of minor leaguers who could provide some really bizarre new names. Wascar, anyone??

Estimated Projections of Yankees.

37. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM (#4103630)

38. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 11, 2012 at 01:16 AM (#4103655)

#31 - the latter. I guess I just meant that I realized he's likely not going to play in the majors again. Although I suppose he could always pull a Sammy Sosa.

Turn white?

39. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: April 11, 2012 at 09:04 AM (#4103726)

Brawl Related Injury Equation Notation - used by the Yankees to assess the risk of career ending injuries of minor league uber prospects in the event that they unleash a brawl in a discoteque.

40. Ron J Posted: April 11, 2012 at 09:48 AM (#4103760)

#35 You're thinking of Vlad. Wilton was the system Clay Davenport came up with to replace Vlad after Gary left Prospectus.

I'm pretty sure that Wilton was not neural net related. Not that Clay couldn't have come up with something like that given time, but my impression was that he just didn't have a lot of time and came up with a fairly conservative (and not coincidentally, one with a smaller standard error than Vlad) system.

41. Slivers of Maranville (SdeB) Posted: April 11, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4103775)

Dominican police have released video of what appears to be the start of the incident.

42. Ray (RDP)

Posted: April 11, 2012 at 11:02 AM (#4103801)

Right, Ron, I was thinking of Vlad. The concept was a lot more interesting to me than the more conservative-type projection systems. Dan's system is great, but I'm generally not very surprised by his projections of major league players; his system is most useful to me for projecting minor leaguers, since I'm not able to do park/league/age projections, or calculate MLEs, in my head.

As to Vlad, it's more difficult to project breakouts, and thus any system that tries is going to look poor in relation to a more conservative system, but, as I said, they're more interesting to me. BP has taken a lot of heat for its Matt Wieters projection some years ago (I think that was a PECOTA projection), and had it been looking for breakout seasons from players it would have been fine - but in that case I think they just misfired. I think Colin has mentioned there were some systemic errors that led to such a high projection.

43. Ron J Posted: April 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM (#4103914)

#42 Colin spotted an error in the Eastern League offensive context (before he was at BP) IIRC.

And I agree that the approach Vlad took made it an interesting contrast since pretty much every other projection system is regress to career norms, minor adjustments for age.

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