Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Monday, September 24, 2012

Donnellon: Baseball needs a good leather gauge

Well, maybe if Bulle Ogier’s not tied up doing something…

There are a stifling number of statistics in baseball these days, and yet no one has come close to quantifying the impact a good defense has on a team. We see it, we know it, but when we debate about building champions and repairing them, we tend to sound like Billy Beane’s sidekick in “Moneyball.”

...“To me when I sit down and watch guys play, I watch hitters against great pitching,” Phillies manager Charlie Manuel was saying after Sunday’s 2-1 loss to the Braves helped punctuate the end of this uneven and uneasy season. “When I look at the matchup sheet and I see guys who hit real good against good pitchers, that definitely jumps out at me. And if I see numbers, of course 85 to 100 RBIs out of a corner outfielder, those numbers jump out at me.

...These are plays not measured in any comprehensible statistics, although those scripting for something called “The Fielding Bible” have given it an honest effort. But all baserunners do not have the same speed, guts or baseball IQ. Strength of arm is not just about putouts, but by a lack of attempts to run on that arm. They have tried to measure range, but these are not dynamic or even easily understandable stats.

The good news for you people is that Amaro, whose resume is still without a championship and thus incomplete, seems to get it, too.

I can’t tell you how many runs will be saved in moving Utley to third and having Galvis at second for a season.

But my eyes can tell he’s right for doing it.

Repoz Posted: September 24, 2012 at 05:15 AM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: phillies, sabermetrics

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 24, 2012 at 09:00 AM (#4244007)
I understand Chris Berman has an eye for leather.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: September 24, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4244067)
Oh, is there such a thing?
   3. Balkroth Posted: September 24, 2012 at 01:13 PM (#4244210)
There are plenty of good ones out there.
   4. dr. scott Posted: September 24, 2012 at 01:53 PM (#4244269)
Is this guy just late to the party, or does he offer some sort of resonalbe critque of the many metrics that do exist.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Tuque
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogRyan Thibs has his HOF Ballot Tracker Up and Running!
(37 - 12:55am, Nov 24)
Last: cardsfanboy

NewsblogOT - November* 2017 College Football thread
(198 - 12:21am, Nov 24)
Last: Howie Menckel

NewsblogHall makes room for an "idiot" on the ballot
(25 - 11:48pm, Nov 23)
Last: Chris Fluit

NewsblogOTP 20 November 2017: Sheriff’s official suspended 10 days over Cubs World Series sneak-in
(824 - 11:06pm, Nov 23)
Last: Lassus

NewsblogFavorite Thanksgiving recipes from MLB | MLB.com
(4 - 10:55pm, Nov 23)
Last: Lassus

NewsblogJoe Morgan Wants To Keep Steroid Cheats Out Of Baseball Hall Of Fame | MLB | NESN.com
(181 - 7:55pm, Nov 23)
Last: Bug Selig

Gonfalon CubsLooking to next year
(204 - 7:01pm, Nov 23)
Last: Meatwad in mourning

NewsblogFinding the best spot for Giancarlo Stanton
(12 - 4:18pm, Nov 23)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogSources: MLB hammers Atlanta Braves, declaring 12 minor league players free agents
(95 - 3:55pm, Nov 23)
Last: You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR)

NewsblogA Discussion of WAR Wherein I Ardently Attempt to Avoid any WAR-Related Puns | Sports-Reference.com
(60 - 3:27pm, Nov 23)
Last: Blanks for Nothing, Larvell

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-22-2017
(11 - 11:01am, Nov 23)
Last: PreservedFish

NewsblogProspectus Feature: Bill James vs. The Noise - Baseball Prospectus
(13 - 9:39am, Nov 23)
Last: Russ

NewsblogOT - NBA 2017-2018 Tip-off Thread
(1516 - 9:02am, Nov 23)
Last: don't ask 57i66135; he wants to hang them all

NewsblogChambliss Ready to Part With Bat and Ball That Sent Yankees to World Series
(33 - 5:44am, Nov 23)
Last: Omineca Greg

NewsblogShohei Ohtani MLB posting deal reached | MLB.com
(4 - 12:30am, Nov 23)
Last: John Northey

Page rendered in 0.2897 seconds
47 querie(s) executed