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Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the OMNICHATTER! for June 8, 2018

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   1. Howie Menckel Posted: June 08, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5688360)
HOW WILL THE METS LOSE TODAY?

wait, they're playing the Yankees. should be easy.

hopes of gamblers to legally bet on this game at Monmouth Park or Borgata casino in Atlantic City today appear to be dashed. so head south to Delaware, hop on a plane to Vegas - or hit up that neighbor who is a bookie.

#betwithyourheadnotoverit
   2. bookbook Posted: June 08, 2018 at 01:15 PM (#5688394)
When/where do we hear about signings? Thread?
   3. Howie Menckel Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:19 PM (#5688425)
MLB Network has a segment of interest.

50 years ago this week, RFK won the California primary - making him a frontrunner for the Democratic Presidential nomination. the first thing he did as he began his speech was to congratulate Don Drysdale for having just pitched his record-breaking sixth consecutive shutout.

Dyrysdale barely skipped a beat after that, allowing 5+ ER in only 5 of his 13 starts in the second half of the season. He carried on for 12 mostly dismal starts in 1969 before hanging them up at the ripe age of 33 - so he lasted even longer than ex-teammate Koufax did!
   4. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5688427)
Feels like Montgomery is due for a rough game today. First guy, bloop single; second, just past the shift; third sac fly deep to CF.
   5. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5688428)
Who's doing color commentary for the Cubs today?
   6. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:28 PM (#5688431)
Wow, what a bullet from Willson from his knees to catch Meadows stealing.

----

I think it's just a really sick JD, because he's saying things JD normally says.
   7. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:34 PM (#5688432)
How long will it take for me to accept that Heyward isn't complete garbage? I mean, he is, but also, he's still hitting...
   8. Meatwad Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:34 PM (#5688433)
5 and a half years.
   9. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:35 PM (#5688434)
...he could have scored there. He's still a good baserunner, right? Honestly, don't know.
   10. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:43 PM (#5688438)
Man, if Javy could just stop swinging at those pitches in the LH batters box...
   11. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5688443)
That's 4 singles for PIT, and none really hit that hard. Just perfect placement all 4 times.
   12. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5688447)
2 accidental HBP - one for each team - already, with the Rizzo stuff still fresh. I predict this doesn't end well this weekend.
   13. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:06 PM (#5688456)
"wait, they're playing the Yankees. should be easy."

Well, they have their best on the mound today and Tanaka can break any offense out of a slump, especially when it comes to home runs.
   14. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:12 PM (#5688458)
Tanaka can also be great.
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:16 PM (#5688464)
Well, they have their best on the mound today and Tanaka can break any offense out of a slump, especially when it comes to home runs.

Yeah, but Tanaka gets to face a team with a 98 OPS+ from non-pitchers, and is missing Cespedes, while DeGrom is facing a team with a 115 OPS+
   16. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:17 PM (#5688465)
Wait, I think it's Doug Glanville, not JD.

EDIT: I was hearing Glanville, but he's just there too, in the stands or something. I dunno, I wasn't watching the last 20 minutes.
   17. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:17 PM (#5688467)
Exactly. The entire Yankee lineup is over 100 OPS+ (aside from Bird, who has barely played, and Tanaka himself of course).
   18. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:20 PM (#5688468)
In an alarming announcement, the Angels revealed today that right-hander Shohei Ohtani has been placed on the 10-day DL with a Grade 2 sprain of the ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow. He’s already received platelet-rich plasma and stem-cell injections, per the Angels, and will be re-evaluated in three weeks.


Oh, crap.
   19. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:20 PM (#5688469)
"Tanaka can also be great."

Indeed he can. It would be nice to see that on a somewhat consistent basis.
   20. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:23 PM (#5688472)
2014, 2015, 2016... Sept/Oct 2017.

My god, there should be NO doom and gloom about this team.
   21. jmurph Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:25 PM (#5688476)
In an alarming announcement, the Angels revealed today that right-hander Shohei Ohtani has been placed on the 10-day DL with a Grade 2 sprain of the ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow. He’s already received platelet-rich plasma and stem-cell injections, per the Angels, and will be re-evaluated in three weeks.

Is there any (realistic) hope this doesn't lead to TJ?
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:27 PM (#5688480)
My god, there should be NO doom and gloom about this team.

Absolutely agree. Best record in baseball. By the projections, best team in baseball. You can't expect every aspect of the team to be the best in the majors.
   23. Baldrick Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:30 PM (#5688484)
Indeed he can. It would be nice to see that on a somewhat consistent basis.

Tanaka has a career ERA+ of 115. Since 2014 when he joined the league, he has the 23rd best pitching WAR in all of baseball.
   24. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:37 PM (#5688491)
That was hit hard - if not for the wind, that's a HR.
   25. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:46 PM (#5688501)
You can't expect every aspect of the team to be the best in the majors.


GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR MEASURED RESPONSE.
   26. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:48 PM (#5688506)
Bryant's hitting 3.000 as a leadoff hitter.
   27. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:48 PM (#5688507)
Also the Mets haven't figured out how to offense in a good while now.
   28. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:48 PM (#5688509)
Bryant's hitting 3.000 as a leadoff hitter.

That is amazing.
   29. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5688512)
GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR MEASURED RESPONSE.

No. I'm an extremist in my moderation. ;-)
   30. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5688516)
And, of course they need a starter eventually. They can last just fine until July. Maybe they play .600 instead of .700. HORRORS.

(And the hardest part of their season, schedulewise, happened already, and they destroyed.)
   31. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 03:52 PM (#5688518)
Bryant must have gotten a terrible jump; Cervelli double clutched before throwing him out easily.
   32. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:01 PM (#5688527)
OK, it's both a sick JD and Glanville in the booth.
   33. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:01 PM (#5688528)
And, of course they need a starter eventually. They can last just fine until July. Maybe they play .600 instead of .700. HORRORS.

They need a guy. They don't need an impact starter. But since Darvish was acquired for a B-prospect last year, I'm guessing they get someone pretty decent for a prospect or two that we won't miss.
   34. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5688530)
Monty has been pretty good in 3 starts so far. 16.2 IP, 2 R.
   35. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5688532)
They need a guy. They don't need an impact starter. But since Darvish was acquired for a B-prospect last year, I'm guessing they get someone pretty decent for a prospect or two that we won't miss.



Yep. I'm fine with a Ross.
   36. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:07 PM (#5688533)
Yep. I'm fine with a Ross.

I'd like Happ. I can't see him costing much more than a B-prospects and a couple of lottery tickets.
   37. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:07 PM (#5688534)
They need a guy. They don't need an impact starter. But since Darvish was acquired for a B-prospect last year, I'm guessing they get someone pretty decent for a prospect or two that we won't miss.


They can have Chatwood.
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:08 PM (#5688536)
They can have Chatwood.

Cubs paying the contract?
   39. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:09 PM (#5688537)
No
   40. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5688538)
For Gleyber back, sure, we'll pay.
   41. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:11 PM (#5688539)
No

Yeah, that 1.78 WHIP is not appealing.

HTF does he have a 3.86 ERA with a walk rate of 8.6/9?
   42. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5688540)
Cubs sure seem to be running into a lot of outs lately, almost unnecessarily so, or is it just me?
   43. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:17 PM (#5688542)
HTF does he have a 3.86 ERA with a walk rate of 8.6/9?

Luck, good defense, an adequatish K rate, and being hard to hit/not giving up HRs, and luck.
   44. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:19 PM (#5688544)
That's 2 great plays by Happ in LF today. Wow.
   45. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:23 PM (#5688548)
Luck, good defense, an adequatish K rate, and being hard to hit/not giving up HRs, and luck.

Fun fact. The lowest ERA ever posted by someone with a BB/9 rate >7 is 6.55 (100 IP minimum).
   46. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:28 PM (#5688553)
A very half-hearted point in Chatwood's favor is that Contreras is one of the worst pitch framers in baseball, and Chatwood is so wild, that I think he gets a disproportionate number of close calls go against him. I think that was part of the thought behind having Gimenez catch him yesterday instead, but nope, 7 BBs.

He had a start not that long ago with only 2 BBs, and it kinda felt like it might get better for him. Nope.

He keeps talking about all these various mechanical things he can work on or that are causing problems, but nothing has changed.

He walked too many guys before getting here, but his walk rate still has almost doubled.
   47. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5688556)

He walked too many guys before getting here, but his walk rate still has almost doubled.


Somewhat shockingly, he doesn't have the highest BB/9 in MLB (10 IP min). Somehow Greg Holland is walking 10 batters per 9 IP.
   48. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 04:39 PM (#5688558)
Yeah, but just like all the K rate records, it's less impressive coming from the pen.
   49. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 05:20 PM (#5688572)
It's always nice when the fungible bottom of the bullpen holds up their end of the bargain and lets some of the big guys get days off. Rosario and Mazzoni have both been pretty good when up this year, same with Hancock when he was here (less so Ferrell, though he gets bonus points for his performance in NY last weekend).
   50. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: June 08, 2018 at 05:22 PM (#5688575)
What a ####### catch by Happ! Wow
   51. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:16 PM (#5688605)
Washington Nationals teenage phenom Juan Soto hasn't attracted much attention at BBTF, but he's hitting .346/.443/.538, 164 OPS+, in 61 PAs since his emergency call-up. The kid started the season at Class A Hagerstown (1.300 OPS), moved quickly to A+ Potomac (1.256 OPS), and then had all of 35 PAs at AA Harrisburg (.981 OPS) before a cascade of outfield injuries caused the Nats to bring him up. He's 19, and may not be going back.
   52. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:30 PM (#5688609)
Seems like Tanaka's already given up the #obligatoryhomer
   53. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:31 PM (#5688610)
Matt Harvey, Cincinatti ace has allowed two homeruns to the Cardinals in two innings, but those have been the only hits allowed, still 2-0 Cardinals.
   54. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:31 PM (#5688611)
Tanaka just allowed another HR, the 51st since the start of 2017, which leads MLB. And that may be all deGrom needs.
   55. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:35 PM (#5688613)
Wong has 8 hit by pitches this year now. That seems like a lot, and he's not really a diver, but he does stand close to the plate. (not counting other games being played today, the leader in hit by pitch is 9 --Cron, Bryant, Nelson Cruz and Cervelli.
   56. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:37 PM (#5688616)
Cardinals place another player on the DL, Mike Mayers has been recalled 6 times this season so far... Lyons injury sounds legit though, not just a move to flip relievers for a week or two.
   57. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:48 PM (#5688618)
That is a fun stat, the Cardinals currently have a 11 game winning streak against the Reds, it's their third longest winning streak against the Reds in their history, the funny thing is that their longest is 18 games, done twice...once by the 1930-1931 Cardinals, and another 18 by the 1931-1932 Cardinals...


I wonder if what Al/Mclaughlin said is true. They are talking about injuries that they haven't heard about before, and how Lat injuries are more common and how abdominal strain is something that is also fairly recent. Hrabosky says that he trainer(or someone) is making the claim that since baseball players are more and more one sport athletes growing up, that certain muscles/body parts aren't being stretched/utilized as much so they become more susceptible to stress... That sounds like a decent reason for it. My assumption has been that the reason we are getting more specific injuries, is because the medicine diagnosis is becoming more specific in it's diagnosis
   58. Howie Menckel Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:50 PM (#5688620)
It's Jeurys Familia Fathead Night on Sunday at CitiField:

1) Familia placed on DL today
2) why do you have a promotion for an automatically sold-out game vs Yankees?
3) will there even be 15,000 Mets fans in the crowd?
   59. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 07:55 PM (#5688621)
Jose Martinez.... professional hitter, with his second homerun of the night, a three round shot, giving the Cardinals a 5-1 lead.
   60. Howie Menckel Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:07 PM (#5688625)
Max Scherzer grounds out to short in the 3rd inning.....

wait, what?

yes, Strasburg started, lasted 2 innings,sore LEFT forearm so he leaves.
Shawn Kelley a scoreless 3rd, then Max - a career .192 hitter - pinch-hits.

Max would bat cleanup for the Mets.
   61. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:18 PM (#5688626)
Dan Mclaughlin talking about a young catcher, who grew up in the cincy area and worshiped Johnny Bench.... "If you grow up in that era and play in that area, you have to worship Johnny Bench if you are a catcher.".... let's start with if you play catcher from any era or area after 1980...there is nothing wrong with worshiping Johnny Bench.
   62. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:18 PM (#5688627)
deGrom just toying with the Yankees right now. Tanaka can't allow anymore damage. Oh well, maybe the White Sox can pull off a miracle in Fenway.
   63. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:19 PM (#5688629)
Max - a career .192 hitter - pinch-hits.

A .281 hitter this season going into the game. Have a little respect!
   64. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5688631)
Luke Weaver is 6'2", they just showed him walking with Jose Martinez behind him and he looks tiny in comparison. (and Wong looked like a midget/Tom Cruise in that same image)
   65. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:30 PM (#5688633)
Terrific teenager Juan Soto (see #51) has hit a 2-run HR to put the Nationals on the scoreboard, although still trailing 5-2.
   66. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:39 PM (#5688637)
Tanaka uses his wheels to tie the game.:)
   67. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:41 PM (#5688638)
And now he's out of the game. Oh no ...
   68. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:41 PM (#5688639)
Tanaka's out of the game, thanks NL rules!
   69. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:43 PM (#5688640)
Despite a first batter HR, Tanaka pitched pretty well, allowing just the 1 run, while striking out 8 in 5 innings, before leaving the game with some kind of leg/foot injury after hustling to score on Judge's SF. Could be ominous, or maybe not.
   70. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:44 PM (#5688641)
Ohtani, Strasburg, Tanaka.... rough day.
   71. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:46 PM (#5688644)
Guys, there’s a first place team that’s using Daniel Descalso as its cleanup hitter.
   72. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:48 PM (#5688645)
Hey, Descalso is a 40-homer guy, man. I mean, it's over 9 seasons, but still.
   73. Howie Menckel Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:50 PM (#5688646)
Tanaka's out of the game, thanks NL rules!

wait, there is a rule that requires a pitcher to haul ass down the line toward home to leg out a medium-distance sac fly to right field? then I, too, object to the rule.

yes, it was Mets, 1-0.
yes, it was the 6th inning.
if you feel like you need to get the run there, pinch-run for Tanaka.
or, hold Tanaka at third on a medium fly.

two reasonable options - and the Yankees chose Door #3.
sometimes, the door reveals nothing but a donkey.
   74. Drexl Spivey Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:50 PM (#5688647)
Vince Velasquez had an era of 3.82 yesterday.

He now has an era of 4.95 after giving up 10 earned runs to the Brewers in 3.2 innings.
   75. Ziggy's screen name Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:52 PM (#5688648)
Mommas don't let you babies grow up to be pitchers.
   76. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:55 PM (#5688650)
Meanwhile, Gary Sanchez looks lost ... again at the plate. deGrom with a six-pitch inning. Salvage something out of this damn game.
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 08:58 PM (#5688652)
I'm a fan of Descalso, but how does he become a cleanup hitter, other than one of those old fangled managers who write a lineup, have a late scratch and insists it's too hard to erase names on a lineup card, so they go with just a straight up batter replacement..


Of course, according to the book, you bat your best hitter second, first, and that the third, fourth and fifth hitters is about platooning and specific skills...
   78. rconn23 Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5688653)
Stiffness in BOTH hamstrings for Tanaka. Just great.
   79. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:12 PM (#5688657)
GRITNER!!!

3-1
   80. Perry Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:12 PM (#5688658)
Guy wearing a Cardinals shirt just Bartmaned a foul ball in Cincy and kept Dexter Fowler from catching it. Weaver walked the batter on the next pitch. It was clearly in the stands, he was within his rights, but c'mon, guy, use your head out there.

EDIT: for clarity.
   81. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:15 PM (#5688659)
No lead is ever safe in Cincy/Col....
   82. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:19 PM (#5688660)
Gomber following the same path he did in his first appearance... walk the first batter, get a double play....
   83. Howie Menckel Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:19 PM (#5688661)
deGrom's ERA balloons to 0.81 in his last 9 starts after that 2-run HR by Gardner.

the Mets are about to fall to 2-7 in those starts, which is like the Metsiest thing ever.
   84. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:25 PM (#5688665)
the Mets are about to fall to 2-7 in those starts, which is like the Metsiest thing ever.


Number one rule of omnichatter is that nobody cares about your fantasy team, but I'm in a league where you get two teams, One AL team, One NL team... I have the Mets as my NL team for the last two years. (you are allowed to supplement the roster with up to 10 players not claimed by other teams +anybody you have on the DL.... so most of my team is non-mets, but still I'm interested in their performance because of that. DeGrom hasn't been bad to have at all.
   85. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:26 PM (#5688666)
I'm fairly certain the Cardinals long nightmare is over, the Cardinals have finally gotten a caught stealing on the opposition.
   86. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:28 PM (#5688667)
Of course the funny part about that stat on the caught stealing is that the Cardinals are fifth in MLB in fewest steals allowed, but it's their first caught stealing all season long. When you say teams don't attempt to steal on the Cardinals, you aren't exagerrating... Cardinals have had 21 steal attempts... next fewest is 24 against the angels, and 30 attempts against a couple of other teams.
   87. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:41 PM (#5688670)
Well, THAT was a nice pair of outcomes, as deGrom and Sale bite the dust. Yanks back in first no matter how you define it.
   88. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:45 PM (#5688672)
Tanaka's out of the game, thanks NL rules!

wait, there is a rule that requires a pitcher to haul ass down the line toward home to leg out a medium-distance sac fly to right field? then I, too, object to the rule.

yes, it was Mets, 1-0.
yes, it was the 6th inning.
if you feel like you need to get the run there, pinch-run for Tanaka.
or, hold Tanaka at third on a medium fly.

two reasonable options - and the Yankees chose Door #3.
sometimes, the door reveals nothing but a donkey.


Or maybe you have to put pitchers through wind sprints to prepare them for situations like this. But having pitchers hit is still Stone Age baseball.
   89. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:46 PM (#5688674)
Yankees stretch their AL East lead to 3 games in the ALL-IMPORTANT LOSS COLUMN™, as they prevail over the Mighty Mets while the White Sox shut out the Red Sox in the Hosiery Series 1-0.
   90. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:53 PM (#5688680)
But having pitchers hit is still Stone Age baseball.


Which even those playing "Stone Age Baseball" realized ...

From a Ben Lindbergh piece over at The Ringer:


Complaints about pitcher hitting are not new to the game. The origins of organized DH advocacy extend to the 19th century, and media moaning surfaced more than a century before Bartolo Colon first carried his bat up the baseline and failed to touch first base. “In the press box at Forbes Field the other day several of the baseball writers became involved in a discussion of the prevailing batting weakness among pitchers,” sportswriter Harry Keck wrote in the Pittsburgh Daily Post on August 9, 1917. “The topic was brought up by the spectacle of a pitcher taking three feeble strikes at the ball and walking back to the bench. It is an ordinary happening.”

The Daily Post banner died in 1927. Keck died in 1965. Forbes Field died in 1971. Pitcher hitting is somehow still alive, at least in the NL and in interleague play.

If that citation isn’t archaic enough for you, try the Buffalo Enquirer from October 6, 1896. One subhed in the “Sporting” section of that day’s edition—which, with a nod to the sporting tastes of the time, led with baseball, boxing, bowling, horse racing, sailing, and cycling—proclaimed, “WHY A PITCHER CAN’T HIT.” Within the text, an unnamed pitcher opined of his kind, “He is the least fitted of any man in the game to face another pitcher.” And on April 13, 1905, former big leaguer Bill Friel, then of the minor league American Association, told the Racine Daily Journal, “Take most of the pitchers of the A.A. today. Put them anywhere else than in the [pitcher’s] box and they are lost. That’s why I argue that they are not ball players, but just pitchers.” Even then, people understood that pitchers needn’t be all-around players, and that was so long ago that an ad on the same newspaper page for a misleadingly named medication called “Herpicide” promised to help “the bald men of today” by encouraging new hair growth in cases where the hair “has not been completely destroyed by parasites that infest it.”


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   91. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: June 08, 2018 at 09:56 PM (#5688684)
Go Warriors !!
   92. Howie Menckel Posted: June 08, 2018 at 10:01 PM (#5688687)
with Chapman limping into a SV, we now have two rules changes to make:

- no longer mandate that pitchers sprint down the line to try to score a sac fly on a medium fly ball in the 6th inning. a subset of this is to at least end the ban on allowing pitchers to do some running drills during the season. the combination is patently unfair. I would even go so far as to allow the team to either pinch-run for the pitcher, or allow him to remain on third base without being called out. it adds some strategy to the game that is lost when the pitcher is forced into a sprint.

- when a batters hits a "swinging bunt," let's end this absurd rule that forces pitchers to chase after the bunt. we saw how this affected Chapman, even though he finished the game.

let's all unite to give pitchers a CHOICE of whether to sprint down the line from third base, or whether to chase a swinging bunt! without these choices, pitchers are mere victims of a cruel game!
   93. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 08, 2018 at 10:03 PM (#5688688)
while the White Sox shut out the Red Sox in the Hosiery Series 1-0.

For future reference, that would be the Pale Hose vs the Carmine Hose.
   94. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 10:12 PM (#5688695)
Top of the 9th, Cardinals leading 6-4 two outs and the rain is absolutely coming down..... this is a tough decision to make in my mind.
   95. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 10:20 PM (#5688703)
This is kinda ridiculous.. I get the point, but there is no reason that this game should continue.....

Finally they made the decision to bring out the tarp. It makes sense, the weather channel says that this rain will maintain for another hour roughly.... you can't let the fact that the game is only "three outs" to go dictate your decision to the point of absurdity, which is what they were trying to do for a few minutes.
   96. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: June 08, 2018 at 10:37 PM (#5688712)
Too early for a little Giants MOJO aka #### OFF Todgers ! Nuke yoo, D-Backs !

Go Warriors !! (That Kevin Durant is better than Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb combined!)
   97. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 10:44 PM (#5688715)
It looks like the tarp is off in Cincy, game about to start eventually.
   98. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: June 08, 2018 at 10:51 PM (#5688718)
I was at the Phillies @ Giants game last week, and more chilling than the price of the tickets, $95 and the price of parking $40 and the price of two dogs, 2 garlic fries, a coke and 2 beers ($14.50 a piece) $72 ,was only the pwnage the Giants did to Arrieta.
Hard to predict the Playoffs... Giants, Cubs, Yanks, Red Sucks,Barves... few more teams... anyway, an awesomely awesome season !

Go Warriors !
   99. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 08, 2018 at 11:06 PM (#5688725)
Justin Upton homers again. Last 5 games, 10-17 with 4 homers. En fuego.
   100. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2018 at 11:09 PM (#5688727)
Reds are about to win/tie this game up...

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