Shortstop Zach Houchins, a 15th-round selection in the 2011 First-Year Player Draft, said Monday it is unlikely that he will sign a professional contract with the Nationals.
Houchins said he hasn’t heard from the club since June after it was discovered that he made what were deemed racist and homophobic remarks on his Twitter page.
Teams have until 12:01 a.m. ET on Tuesday, Aug. 16, to come to terms with their draftees, meaning official notification has to be in the Commissioner’s Office when the clock strikes midnight. A text message to general manager Mike Rizzo was not returned.
Houchins told MLB.com back in June that he is not a racist, and he apologized to the front office.
“I called [the Nationals]. I apologized to Mr. Roy Clark [the team’s assistant general manager]. I apologized to him for what was said on Twitter,” Houchins said. “[Clark said], ‘Yeah, anything you said on Twitter was completely unacceptable.’ I understood where he was coming from. That was pretty much the conversation.
“I’m not a racist, not at all. ... Four of my best friends, two of them are black, one of them was my roommate. He is probably one of the closest people I’ve ever been around. ... Me and my four best friends became so close, it’s just how we talk. It wasn’t anything derogatory or anything like that. It’s just how we talk.”
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1. you got a STEAGLES? you're gonna need a STEAGLES. Posted: August 10, 2011 at 04:13 PM (#3897103)How meta?
(Dude, you're posting on a message board - it's the same thing.)
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Having read his tweets, I can say:
* this is not sufficient proof for me to think this guy is a racist. By example (and I don't think you need the same background to get this) - I grew up in a poor to lower-middle class, predominantly black neighborhood and this is more or less how most of my peers spoke^, regardless of race or opinions on same. I don't know enough of this guy's deal to judge this situation.
* this is sufficient reason not to sign the guy, given the low opportunity cost involved. If you're old enough to seek employment, you're more than old enough to know that there are consequences for saying stupid stuff online.
^ [Meaning in tone - I'm in my late 30s, so the phrasing has changed a bit over time, but the same keywords were there. Also, there were a few exceptions, self included.]
Unless his name is really bfan, I think there's at least one difference.
To kind of piggyback #2, I think there is a disturbing trend on what young people think is acceptable in public. Maybe this has always been true, but I'm kinda alarmed at the vulgar language that seems to be tossed about at a high volume in public places with children and the elderly within earshot, or the conversations some people feel free to have in front of others. Was I that coarse when I was young? Anyway, I think the internet has accelerated that because of the anonymity, only Facebook and Twitter are taking back some of that anonymity by attaching our names to our comments.
and a second is that there is at least the opportunity to create context, pretext and explanation, which is very difficult when you are capped at whatever low number of characters you get per tweet.
No, but I assumed the unspoken (unwritten) part of bfan's post was specific to Houchins and his decision not to create a Twitter pseudonym. You can also use your real name here, but he obviously chooses not to do so.
I think there is a disturbing trend on what young people think is acceptable in public. Maybe this has always been true, but I'm kinda alarmed at the vulgar language that seems to be tossed about at a high volume in public places with children and the elderly within earshot, or the conversations some people feel free to have in front of others. Was I that coarse when I was young? Anyway, I think the internet has accelerated that because of the anonymity, only Facebook and Twitter are taking back some of that anonymity by attaching our names to our comments.
Sure, I agree with all of that (except for the Facebook/Twitter making people feel less anonymous bit).
(FWIW, I, for one, am a lot more coarse now than then.)
Furthermore... I think that there's less general agreement as to what is considered inappropriate* (as an aspect of culture fragmentation) might be a bigger issue than that of people feeling free to do/say things that they know are inappropriate.
Second, with regard to "Social Media(tm)" more specifically, there are productive ways to use it and there are somewhat unproductive ways to use it, some of which (like this example) may become counter-productive. My take on bfan's first comment was that it's the unproductive uses of "Social Media(tm)" that are perplexing. There's little to no benefit involved, and occasionally consequences, sometimes serious.
Either way, posting random nonsense on Twitter is not "the same thing" as responding to an article on BTF.
i'm white, if that didn't come across. and the incidents occurred more than 10 years ago.
The elderly? Didn't the current elderly buy any George Carlin albums? Pretty close to it.
You clearly haven't read many of my comments on this website.
You're telling me.
They firebombed three police stations here last night. Those little rascals!
The elderly? Didn't the current elderly buy any George Carlin albums?
Back in the day, the concern would have been about using coarse language in front of women and children. Not so much now, since women have won the right to be as vulgar as men.
I'm a young people, and I've thought the same thing for quite a while. Partly out of consideration for others, and partly why risk saying something around the 1/100 that will get in your face about it. I can think of better ways to spend my time than having a stranger yell at me for saying \"####\".
LOL, that's the oldest excuse in the book, kid, got anything else?
*I'm mostly kidding on the fully qualified part.
I am of the opinion that you can make a joke about anything, but there are certain types of jokes you should only make around people who know you and know when you're making a joke and when you're expressing your actual beliefs.
During an after-hours game of pool, with 6 of us hanging out at a bar, a white guy from Jersey dropped an N-bomb. One of the guys shooting pool was black and worked at the bar-- he was not happy, not ready to fight the guy, but pissed that the guy would be so stupid. The guy from Jersey was lucky to get out of there without a pool stick shoved up his ass. He wouldn't apologize, because he "has black friends, so it's ok."
Friends, sure. But best friends? I have a best friend who's a woman, I like to think I'm significantly less misogynistic than most of my friends, who do not have close platonic female friends (and would readily admit after a beer or two that they only would have a "close female friend" that they stick their dicks into)
Sure, racist guy can have black-guy-in-circle-of-friends-that-he-doesn't-hang-out-with-one-on-one, but "best friend"? How racist could you be?
Speaking of female friends, my hat's off to you. Friendship is often a rocky road, and retaining women friends, let alone a woman best friend, is not easy.
I'm extremely shy around women, but my best friend is female; we've been close, completely platonic, friends for 25 years, and I think I'm probably closer to her now than I ever have been, and more comfortable around her than I am with my male friends...
Heck, my brother-in-law is quite racist towards people of Latino descent, but is (fairly happily, it appears) married to one. There's not a high degree of introspection going on with the racism, I suspect.
He's also, hilariously, accidentally racist towards Jewish people. While having dinner with his step-father (Jewish), he casually used a rather unpleasant word for a Jewish person, thinking that it applied to Koreans. I think the first letter was all he was going on, to be honest. I wasn't there, but my step-father's response was apparently both compelling, and rather scary, for a man with an extensive private collection of firearms.
Actually, I'm not sure he knows he's being racist. I think, in all honesty, he thinks he's being efficient with language, and possibly witty at the same time.
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