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Saturday, July 28, 2018

Duquette elaborates on economics of rebuild, murky on future of homegrown players at ‘State of the Orioles’

...So we’re redirecting those resources into our scouting operation, into our recruiting, into our player development. We’re going to be active on the international recruiting market. We’re going to be active in more technology and facilities, in our training program…

A twenty-first century version of The Oriole Way might be hoping for too much - https://sabr.org/latest/1970-baltimore-orioles-oriole-way

NattyBoh Posted: July 28, 2018 at 06:48 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: baltimore orioles, buck showalter, dan duquette, rebuilding

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: July 29, 2018 at 01:36 AM (#5717586)
The old "we're going to redirect the cost of a bench player to the pittance it costs to sign a few international FAs ... what's happening to the other $30 M we're cutting from payroll? What kind of question is that?" routine.
   2. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: July 29, 2018 at 11:39 AM (#5717640)

The old "we're going to redirect the cost of a bench player to the pittance it costs to sign a few international FAs ... what's happening to the other $30 M we're cutting from payroll? What kind of question is that?" routine.
The joke is that the Orioles absolutely refuse to spend any money at all -- like, not even the pittance you mention -- on international players.
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2018 at 12:05 PM (#5717642)
The joke is that the Orioles absolutely refuse to spend any money at all -- like, not even the pittance you mention -- on international players.

Yeah, I wondered if that was a throwaway promise-the-fans-better-days-are-ahead line, or the Orioles were actually changing their approach to the international market. Would be a bit strange for a lame-duck, likely-to-be-fired, GM to be announcing new business strategies.
   4. NattyBoh Posted: July 29, 2018 at 01:49 PM (#5717659)
Revenue is going to take a big hit. TV ratings are down 50%. Attendance is down 25%. The Rule V draft isn't the answer; they'll need to get more talent unless they want to turn back into the St. Louis Browns.
   5. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 29, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5717789)
Revenue is going to take a big hit. TV ratings are down 50%. Attendance is down 25%


Good thing they only owe Chris(that's Mr. 45 OPS+ to you buddy) Davis only $92 million...after this year.
   6. villageidiom Posted: July 30, 2018 at 08:43 AM (#5717867)
The old "we're going to redirect the cost of a bench player to the pittance it costs to sign a few international FAs ... what's happening to the other $30 M we're cutting from payroll? What kind of question is that?" routine.
...which worked damn well for Duquette in Montreal. It was easier back then to succeed with that routine back then, if you knew which players to get and how to develop them. The trick today is that so many other teams know which players to get and how to develop them that it's hard to amass that much talent swiftly. I'm not convinced Dan Duquette knows the way to get there. I'm sure he knows that's the road he wants to travel, but at this point I don't think he knows where the on-ramp is.
   7. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: July 30, 2018 at 08:56 AM (#5717869)
Revenue is going to take a big hit. TV ratings are down 50%. Attendance is down 25%. The Rule V draft isn't the answer


Revenue sharing is the answer.
   8. donlock Posted: July 30, 2018 at 11:44 PM (#5718306)
Although the word is that the Orioles will spend in the international market, why is that a new thing? Other clubs take lots of avenues to success - not we won't spend money on player salaries and now we will invest in Latin America. Why not do both?

Oriole penny pinching does not show up in average payroll or a few big contracts (Chris Davis,Mark Trumbo,Alex Cobb, etc.) but in refusing to eat a bad contract (4 years of Ubaldo Jiminez), clogging the roster with Rule V players who rarely are major leaguers in their first or subsequent years, and lurking around the good clubs to find a team with too many players for their 40 man roster. The Orioles trade for these types and they are about as useful as the rule V types mentioned above.

The miserliness extends to letting scouts and front office people leave over contract issues. The cheaper replacements don't seem to be able to evaluate the club's players in the system and the GM trades young talent for over the hill vets.

A new GM will have to agree to take the job when there is a buffer (Brady Anderson) between ownership and the front office who has input on trades and player decisions. Two pitching coaches left the Orioles to go to Atlanta when they felt their expertise was overruled.No way to run a railroad!

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