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Sunday, December 02, 2012

Elsberry: Gossage says Yankees could use some old-school baseball

And enough of that fading Bob Feller vs. Piaggio XZero footage!

And according to Gossage, the 2012 Yankees didn’t have a clue.

“I’ve never seen a team of great players, or at least `name’ players fall apart like they did in the playoffs. I’m just shaking my head,” Gossage told the Bird. “I’m shocked as I’m pretty sure they’re shocked. I’ve never seen a whole lineup go into a slump as they did. I didn’t think there was a great urgency in their demeanor, in the dugout or anywhere else. I didn’t see anyone throw a helmet or break a bat or anything. It just didn’t seem like there was any urgency.”

...And watching from his television set in Colorado Springs, Colo., Gossage couldn’t believe what he was seeing.

“It just didn’t seem like the enthusiasm as a team was there,” he said. “I saw him (Rodriguez) smiling a lot in the dugout and just kind of nonchalanting everything ... he wasn’t acting like a real team guy. I just didn’t like the demeanor of the whole team. (Nick) Swisher was smiling and laughing ... I wanted to see somebody fire a bat at something or have someone get in someone’s face once in a while. That’s what you need sometimes.”

...“When I was a young kid and you did something out of line, you might as well not go back into the dugout because there were going to be about 10 guys waiting for you,” Gossage said. “That’s why you never pulled the crap that they pull now. If you don’t run out a ground ball ... I’ll tell you, money is dictating the way these managers and the front office are treating these guys. I don’t see anyone getting on anybody because they’re afraid. They’ve got so much money tied up in these guys that if they get on him, he’s going to go in the tank. It’s a disservice. It’s tough love, that’s what it’s called; that’s not happening anymore.

“(Derek) Jeter’s the captain and I think it’s up to Jeter a lot of times to shake things up and I don’t know if they didn’t do that, maybe they did. I’m not there and I’m not hands-on, but somebody needed to put a foot up everyone’s (butt) and get them going.”

Repoz Posted: December 02, 2012 at 01:45 AM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Koot Posted: December 02, 2012 at 09:11 AM (#4314476)
I was too young to remember Goose playing. It's really nice of him to show up every few months and tell me stories about the good old days.
   2. Empathy, I Promise You (SBB) Posted: December 02, 2012 at 09:17 AM (#4314480)
“I’ve never seen a team of great players, or at least `name’ players fall apart like they did in the playoffs.

1980 ALCS?
   3. BDC Posted: December 02, 2012 at 09:38 AM (#4314489)
I’ve never seen a team of great players, or at least `name’ players fall apart like they did in the playoffs

Never followed the Braves much, obviously {GDAR}
   4. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: December 02, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4314507)
Not saying he's right (I'm not even sure what he's saying), but I imagine being extremely wealthy and in the middle of a long guaranteed deal might cost someone a little motivation.
   5. I Am Not a Number Posted: December 02, 2012 at 12:06 PM (#4314554)
Back in the day, Gossage was a fun player to watch. But, as he moves into his golden years, he is now little more than a paint-by-numbers "back in my day" ex-player. Very tiresome to listen to this type of "insight".
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 02, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4314573)
Back in the day, Gossage was a fun player to watch. But, as he moves into his golden years, he is now little more than a paint-by-numbers "back in my day" ex-player. Very tiresome to listen to this type of "insight".

Agreed, except he nails the modern closer phenomenon perfectly. There's no better spokesman as to how the 60 IP, one-clean IP at a time, RP is grossly overvalued.
   7. Gotham Dave Posted: December 02, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4314576)
At least this is only the second dumbest thing about the Yankees on BBTF today, thanks to Stan Fischler.
   8. Jose Canusee Posted: December 02, 2012 at 04:09 PM (#4314691)
Reminded me of the in-their-prime 1990 A's getting swept by the Reds in the WS and my co-worker's instant psychoanalysis of "they didn't want it badly enough". And they didn't even have facial closeups on 60" screens to tell what players were thinking in those days. Almost makes me want to see Tex and A-Rod star in the 2013 postseason, but they would say Rivera made the difference.
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 02, 2012 at 05:49 PM (#4314721)
If the Yankee are to do well in 2013, the Elder Statesmen will have to hold off Father Time another season. Could happen, but not easy.
   10. Big Train Rollin' Posted: December 04, 2012 at 03:42 AM (#4316162)
Agreed, except he nails the modern closer phenomenon perfectly. There's no better spokesman as to how the 60 IP, one-clean IP at a time, RP is grossly overvalued.

Heath Bell would like to have a little chat with you.

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