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1. salvomania Posted: December 02, 2011 at 04:45 PM (#4005085)Using a pretty generous definition of "a good season for a 1b" (at least 400 ab with an OPS+ of 120+) Casey had three good seasons with the Reds and Driessen only had two. And in 5 postseason series as a Red, Driessen hit below .200 with 1 homer and 2 rbi in 45 plate appearances.
Just wait a few years, Reds, and you should a few more deserving candidates.
Sean Casey is a guy I had on my Roto team for 3 years- 1998-2000, I thought he'd turn out better, I thought he'd have a lot more years like 1999 than he did...
Driessen had been a starter before then. It looks like Driessen lost his starting job when Rose was converted to 3B. In effect, he lost his job to either Ken Griffey or George Foster (I'm not sure which of those two). And because the starting was so unusually stable, he got less opportunity to play in '75-'76 that most players in his situation would have had.
No, he didn't play any 3B in 1975, having proven in 73-74 that he couldn't handle it defensively. If anything moving Rose gave him more playing time, since it opened up the outfield quite a bit. John Vukovich was the guy who lost his job when Rose moved. Driessen pinch hit a lot and got some time at 1B spelling Perez and some in the OF, usually playing LF with Foster either out or moving to CF.
Edited to correct the spelling of Vukovich.
Common knowledge
In 1976 the Reds scored 857 runs, 5.29 per game, league average was 3.98- and their home park was actually reasonably neutral
They scored half a run more than the next best hitting club (Philly) who was nearly a half run up on the 3rd (Pitt) everyone else was clustered near a 7 team tie for 4th, with Sand Diego and Montreal pulling up the rear- and Montreal was a lot closer to league average than Cincy was
The Reds then traded Perez to Montreal two years later to open up 1B for Driessen.
Looking at Driessen's career in hindsight, you wonder what all the fuss was about -- screwing around with a couple of HOFers* and a future MVP/HOVG player for meh production at the corners. Apparently, though, the Reds really thought Driessen was their young emerging star, even more so than Griffey or Foster.
Poz's book also says Driessen was from some remote area of the south, unscouted, and basically convinced the Reds to sign him by writing a letter to Dick Wagner.
*Yeah, yeah, Rose isn't actually in and Perez might not deserve it.
I'm not sure offense driven quite captures how absolutely dominant the Reds were. The 76 Reds led the league in, deep breath, hits, runs, doubles, triples, steals, home runs, bases on balls, batting average, total bases and all three slash categories.
They didn't just rule the league, they swept the freaking field.
That has to be one of the top two or three(I'm being conservative here) all around offensive performances in history.
I mean, these guys did everything well.
Heck, they even finished second in sacrifice flies.
Big Red Machine
What also happened in 1976 was that Geronmio had a BABIP driven fluke year as well and posted a very anomalous 125 OPS+
He was an above average MLB hitter at age 21, it was likely easy to project him to be a star
he was better than Foster through about age 24/25, Driessen's problem was that Foster took a huge step forward in his age 26 season- hitting .300/.356/.518, OPS+ 139, that was in 1975, Driessen was a 23 year old hitting .281/.386/.429 (OPS+ 125) that year- real nice year for a 23 year old...
Driessen was as good a player as the 33 year old Tany Perez at that point- and eventually did take Doggie's job- but Driessen never became as good as Perez or Foster in their primes
Although bb-ref is a great website, some things I wish they would add to pi, is the ability to search team stats, and the ability to search 'rankings'(the latter is less important than the former, and would probably be a somewhat pain to code)
Absolutely seconded.There have been a number of times I've wished this.
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