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1. Zach Posted: October 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM (#3676629)Are you kidding? Monkeys are awful. Horrible little creatures.
Confirming this. Monkeys suck. Sure, they're cute on TV riding around on tiny tricycles and smoking cigars, but up close they're horrid, filthy little homunculi, with teeth like a doberman and a far worse disposition.
When did this thread turn into a discussion of libertarians?
But actually, San Fran folks, you're going up against Arlington, Texas, which is closer to Fort Worth than Dallas. I realize that ruins the narrative somewhat, but...
Fans will watch the team ride The Titan at Six Flags.
On I-20, all the way to Abilene.
That would be fanastic.
Should I take this one?
No, not at all.
God, yes. I ran into some monkeys in Cambodia. Frightening creatures.
edit: And I've seen monkeys in Belize. They were interesting and not at all frightening. Stop stereotyping monkeys, dammit!
God, yes. I ran into some monkeys in Cambodia. Frightening creatures.
A boss I once had was born and raised in Indonesia. He told lots of stories about loathesome monkeys. I suspect every other species with which they come into contact detests monkeys.
Then again, I suspect that's pretty much true about humans as well.
I drove that one time: 2 1/2 hours, and you pass about 2 towns.
What about SanFran--do people say that?
All true.
Another thing I've noticed many times in traveling around the country is that people not from California will refer to San Francisco as "San Fran". That's something that no local ever says.
EDIT: Just saw #23. Answer is no.
It is true that older Texans say "San Antone," though.
People in Dallas/ Fort Worth and vicinity will occasionally and with great reluctance say "Metroplex" when there doesn't seem to be any other accurate word. But what a ghastly media-locution.
Yeah, I've visted many, many times, and I've never noticed any particular shortening by locals. If they say "DFW," they're referring to the airport. Mostly it seems to me that locals consider Dallas and Fort Worth as fairly distinct entities -- am I wrong about that?
Very distinct. And I imagine it's the same with San Francisco and Oakland et al.? Does anyone naturally say "Bay Area" except as a kind of advertising shorthand?
So you are saying we should conduct medical and drug experiments on them.
No, "the Bay Area" is a genuinely commonly-used term. But it's used to describe the entire Bay Area, including San Jose (whose area is itself often called "the South Bay"), and not just San Francisco and Oakland.
But, yes, San Francisco and Oakland are considered distinct entities. And by folks in both San Francisco and Oakland, San Jose is considered some manner of LA-like wasteland.
Libertarians? No, exploiting them for our entertainment in circuses and zoos is sufficient.
It might be less of a faux pas now that Herb Caen is no longer with us, but I'm no fan of Frisco.
Also, the correct way to say The City is thecity. One word. San Francisco is sanfrencisco, also one word. As for San Jose, it infuriates quite a few of their species that San Francisco and Oakland have a certain mutual respect for each other while maintaining none for San Jose.
If it makes San Jose feel better, I hold it in the same esteem I do Oakland.
1) Inner SF - basically everything east of Twin Peaks and north of I-280.
2) San Francisco itself.
3) The "inner ring" Bay Area - basically anything within 5 miles of the bay. Roughly bound by highways 101, 37, 80, 580, 680, and 280.
4) The nine counties area - any part of any county which touches San Francisco Bay.
I think of San Jose as being LA Light, and of Santa Rosa as being LA Very Light.
"Bay Area" is a term I use on occasion, usually referring to #3 above. Nobody calls it "Frisco" unless they're being either ironic or stupid. Occasionally I'll hear some high school kid say "Ess Eff", but they're usually the same type of person who would refer to Contra Costa County as "CoCo".
Probably not. There's also "Delaware Valley" and for NY/NJ/CT, "Tri-State Area": never spoken by actual human beings, just by voiceovers. I'm glad "Bay Area" is a real term :)
One of my favorite moments in the movies is in The Maltese Falcon when Sam Spade addresses a letter and after the box number simply writes "City."
Chicago was always "The City" too, back in my grandmother's day at least. And of course in New York "The City" means strictly Manhattan Island, though any stray corner of Manhattan qualifies as "in the City."
And Doofenshmirtz.
I think that was standard pretty much everywhere for local mail until fairly recently. Back in the '60s & early '70s my mother addressed her bills to local businesses that way (why she bothered mailing them instead of just dropping them off, since we lived about 3 blocks from downtown in a town of less than 2,500, I'm not sure), & I've read somewhere that the Postal Service didn't start prohibiting that practice till sometime around then.
Yes. They still bust them out on occasion.
It is true that older Texans say "San Antone," though.
- more like san-tone
People in Dallas/ Fort Worth and vicinity will occasionally and with great reluctance say "Metroplex" when there doesn't seem to be any other accurate word. But what a ghastly media-locution.
- my mama grew up in dallas.
i have never heard her say "metroplex" which is really the media market and used by tv/radio/marketing people
- people over 30 consider dallas and fort worth to be 2 completely separate and distinct cities with different, uh, cultures - and arlington is just where you put the airport, the baseball team and the other sport's team (not sure if the new stadium still has a hole in the center of the ceiling so as God can watch His team play - guess he cain't see thru a roof, but i digress...
27. Steve Treder Posted: October 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM (#3676856)
Yeah, I've visted many, many times, and I've never noticed any particular shortening by locals. If they say "DFW," they're referring to the airport.
- correct
Mostly it seems to me that locals consider Dallas and Fort Worth as fairly distinct entities -- am I wrong about that?
VERY distinct entities
The hole is there when they open the roof, but all God can see is the top of the world's biggest TV. However, Jerry Jones put an enormous star on top of the TV that they say can be seen from outer space, so there's that.
In some definitions, I live in Chicagoland. But why choose that when you can claim you're from "The Region."
Not "CoCoCo"?
That would be CooCooCoo.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
And the spontaneous hissing that Eddie Izzard got for even making a joke about calling SF, "Frisco" (1:00 in) was like ... totally "meta". "Ironic", even.
Well, we're all from "the region". Except, I suppose, those of us who were C-section babies.
But what if she was in a different zip code? Would it work then?
Ah poo, I can accept east of Van Ness and north of Market, but there ain't no difference between Bernal Heights and my Crocker-Amazon other than more hipsters in one.
Didn't know that. The area I live in is also called the South Bay - obviously a
different bay.
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Still is, quite frequently.
different bay.
Yeah, the San Jose South Bay Area consists of not just SJ, but essentially everything on the peninsula from about Palo Alto southward, and on the East Bay side from about Fremont southward.
Sheer trivia, but none of the three big Dallas universities (SMU, UT-Dallas, and the U of Dallas) is within the city limits. (They're in the enclave of University Park and the suburbs of Richardson and Irving, respectively.) Dallas Baptist University is barely within the city of Dallas, way out to the southwest.
It makes no practical difference, as SMU is pretty centrally located within Dallas, but it's always been interesting to me that the city itself seemed inhospitable to a university. Fort Worth, by contrast, has both TCU and Texas Wesleyan in town.
Geeky (or perhaps Greeky) historical note: the name "Istanbul" actually means "The City". When the Turks arrived in Asia Minor and asked the local Greeks where they were headed, the Greeks would reply "is ten polen" (prounounced "ees tane polen"), which means "to the city". The Turks, to whom this was all Greek, made that phrase their name of what was then Constantinople.
San Francisco is nice, but it isn't The City. Manhattan is The City.
Aren't you the guy who thinks Disney is evil?
Good recall. Yes, that's me. I have to think P & F are plotting to take down the organization from the inside, because that's the only explanation how those fine young men are associated with those bastards.
I think that was standard pretty much everywhere for local mail until fairly recently. Back in the '60s & early '70s my mother addressed her bills to local businesses that way (why she bothered mailing them instead of just dropping them off, since we lived about 3 blocks from downtown in a town of less than 2,500, I'm not sure), & I've read somewhere that the Postal Service didn't start prohibiting that practice till sometime around then.
I used to deal in early 20th century postcards, and many of them were addressed like that, usually from nearby towns. It was as if each city had a de facto expanded metro area where everyone within a certain range of it knew what you meant when you used the term or wrote it on a card or letter. It applied to smaller cities as well as the New Yorks and Chicagos, but I think that by sometime after WWI the practice became mostly restricted to those bigger metropolises.
You also used to read fairly often about cards or letters delivered to celebrities or institutions without any address at all, only their names. Sort of like before area codes you could call the operator and ask for "Red Auerbach in Washington, D.C.," and be connected (at least during the offseason) within a matter of a minute.
Still works for one baseball player...
"When you mail Ichiro something from the States, you only have to use that name on the address and he gets it (in Japan). He's that big." - Ichiro Suzuki's Agent Tony Attanasio
I wonder about that. Not about the part in Japan, but how it would even make it out of the U.S. in the first place. I wonder how many postal employees would know what to do with a letter or package that just read "Ichiro" on the front.
Ichiro would make them know what to do if he wanted to.
wha? i've lived in santa rosa and i live in L.A. they do not resemble each other in any way whatsoever. did you mean to type 'SF'?
santa rosa has an uneasy relationship with san francisco. the paper i worked for there liked to think of itself as a rival to the chronicle; which isn't so far fetched now that the chron is in such dire straits.
speaking of monkeys, and noting that the post i'm replying to above was from 'the most interesting man in the world', let me tie this thread in a neat bow. i always laugh then cringe when i see the dos equis commercial where he is in the hot spring with those monkeys from japan. i can't imagine that's the most hygienic environment.
A square mile in London would like to have a word with you.
the paper i worked for there liked to think of itself as a rival to the chronicle; which isn't so far fetched now that the chron is in such dire straits.
The Press Dem, at least in sports, was as good as the Chronicle for a long time. Matt Maiocco was the best beat writer on the 49ers around before he went to CSN.
wha? i've lived in santa rosa and i live in L.A. they do not resemble each other in any way whatsoever. did you mean to type 'SF'?
Have you been to Santa Rosa/Rohnert Park/Windsor lately? 101 is a mess - they've expanded to 3 lanes, and it's still not enough. My alma matter, Sonoma State, has expanded tremendously since I graduated in '93, and not for the better. Many more people, more Walmarts, more Costos, much more smog, and not nearly as comfortable.
I did say "Very Light".
And get off my lawn while I'm at it.
santa rosa has an uneasy relationship with san francisco. the paper i worked for there liked to think of itself as a rival to the chronicle; which isn't so far fetched now that the chron is in such dire straits.
Sad, isn't it? I think the straw that will break the camel's back for me is that Tim Goodman's last day will be Friday.
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