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Tuesday, June 08, 2010

ESPN.com: AP: Clip Shows Boy With Beer Bottle

A video snippet from a Philadelphia Phillies broadcast appears to show a little boy in the stands taking a drink from a beer bottle . . .

Police say they are not investigating.

Phillies fans have brought unfavorable publicity to the ballclub this year. In April, a drunken fan intentionally vomited on an 11-year-old girl. In May, a police officer used a Taser on a teenager who ran onto the field.

What do you have to do to get your children taken away in Philadelphia?

The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 08, 2010 at 04:47 PM | 53 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: June 08, 2010 at 05:48 PM (#3553776)
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A KID HAVING A SIP OF BEER OR WINE. Good grief, Charlie Brown.

One of the only pictures of me from my childhood was a picnic at my Uncle and Aunts. I was 6 or 7 at the time, and I have a death grip on my beer bottle. I remember it clearly, what a golden moment. It was the late 50s, it was hot, we were Geman Catholics in Cincinnati. It felt so ... natural. The next time I got a full bottle from Dad was when I was 20.
   2. Dale Sams Posted: June 08, 2010 at 05:57 PM (#3553790)
Agreed completly. My parents let me 'try' their beer, knowing i wouldn't care for it. Pretty smart of them. I still don't care for it.
   3. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:00 PM (#3553793)
EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!!

I had a sip of beer now and then, myself as a wee lad, but didn't develop a taste for it until I was 21 or 22 or so.
   4. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:01 PM (#3553796)
Thirded. Parents can still buy alcohol for their kids in Wisconsin at bars, taverns and retaurants as long as they are present. It is not uncommon at all to see a young kids spinning on a bar stool next to his Dad at a tavern in much of the state.
   5. retro-shiite Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:04 PM (#3553801)
Wait--somebody intentionally vomited on an 11-year-old? WTF?!

Post-google edit: Wow.
   6. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:04 PM (#3553802)
My kid's 2 1/2, and he's probably taken five to 10 sips of my beers in his young life. I don't give it to him of course, but he does it when I'm not looking and across the room or something like that. Big deal. He--and the Republic--will survive.
   7. andrewberg Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:06 PM (#3553804)
I had a sip of beer now and then, myself as a wee lad, but didn't develop a taste for it until I was 21 or 22 or so.


Same. Growing up in binge-drinking North Dakota, it was easier for me to develop a taste for spiced rum than for beer. Eventually I started to like beer, maybe a little too much. This cautionary tale is going awry, so I'll stop.
   8. The District Attorney Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:32 PM (#3553827)
"What are you looking at?"... the innocent words of a drunken child.
   9. Misirlou's got a busy day, he's wearing a vest Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:38 PM (#3553831)
Maybe he can get together with the smoking baby and party.
   10. tfbg9 Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:40 PM (#3553833)
So that's when I started drinking beer...
   11. Blastin Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:40 PM (#3553834)
"What are you looking at?"... the innocent words of a drunken child.


No one's Helen Lovejoy'd the thread yet?
   12. WhoWantsTeixeiraDessert Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:47 PM (#3553837)
May as well get used to what people HAVE to do when they live there.
   13. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:49 PM (#3553840)
I learned something today. I learned that, if you drink as a child, you end up as a nerd who lives in your mother's basement, looking at spreadsheets, and not watching baseball games.
   14. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:50 PM (#3553841)
The worst part is that this kid intentionally vomited on a three-month-old.
   15. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:52 PM (#3553842)
When I was a kid, getting a sip of beer was one of the many cool things about going to a ballgame with grownups. I mean, it was just a sip, but it was an ADULT BEVERAGE.
Which somehow smelled exactly like the bathrooms.
I had so much to learn.
   16. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:53 PM (#3553844)
The worst part is that this kid intentionally vomited on a three-month-old.


But the three-month-old was tasering a one-week old (who was throwing batteries at Santa).

Pretty hard to assign blame in this one . . .
   17. Baldrick Posted: June 08, 2010 at 06:54 PM (#3553846)
The only reason why this is a big story is that his FATHER IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
   18. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:03 PM (#3553862)
I remember my grandfather letting my brother and I take a sip of his whiskey when we were kids. Not the end of the world, although I don't think I would do the same with my kids (and certainly not in public, with t.v. cameras around).
   19. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:10 PM (#3553869)
Wasn't there some kid who ended up at DCFS because a security guard caught him with a Mike's Hard Lemonade at a Tigers game?
   20. RJ in TO Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:17 PM (#3553876)
Wasn't there some kid who ended up at DCFS because a security guard caught him with a Mike's Hard Lemonade at a Tigers game?

Yes.
   21. Gamingboy Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:19 PM (#3553877)
WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!?!
   22. RJ in TO Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:22 PM (#3553883)
WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!?!

Fine. I think they should be able to hold their liquor.
   23. Joe Bivens, Idiot Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:23 PM (#3553885)
Didn't something like this get reported here some time ago? This seems like a deja vu.
   24. RJ in TO Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:27 PM (#3553887)
Didn't something like this get reported here some time ago? This seems like a deja vu.

The link to the last time is available in post #20.
   25. Sheer Tim Foli Posted: June 08, 2010 at 07:30 PM (#3553888)
"Y'know, (hic) you know what we should do. We should just get on our bikes, and ride."
   26. Voros McCracken, Human Shield Posted: June 08, 2010 at 09:20 PM (#3553988)
My sister was on TV as a young child at a White Sox game having a sip of beer. According to my dad Harry said something like "now there's a real Sox fan."

Decades later she had a ruptured brain aneurysm (she lived and came out none the worse for wear thankfully). Were the two incidents connected?
   27. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: June 08, 2010 at 09:26 PM (#3553993)
Were the two incidents connected?


Being a White Sox fan causes brain aneuryms?
   28. Voros McCracken, Human Shield Posted: June 08, 2010 at 09:53 PM (#3554005)
Being a White Sox fan causes brain aneuryms?

It's hard to tell because of a sample size problem.

I kid, I kid.
   29. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: June 08, 2010 at 10:03 PM (#3554014)
Just as long as it was a Dos Equis.
   30. Leroy Kincaid Posted: June 09, 2010 at 12:55 AM (#3554232)
There's a photo of me somewhere as a toddler wearing diapers and a wife-beater, filter-less cigarette in my mouth, clutching a lighter with two hands, trying to light it.
   31. Benji Gil Gamesh is not being paid to be that guy Posted: June 09, 2010 at 01:49 AM (#3554289)
Just as long as it was a Dos Equis.


He calls Chuck E. Cheese..."Charles."

When his mom stays home sick, he writes her a note.

He skipped his preschool play...because it conflicted with Cannes.

He is...the most interesting boy in the world.
   32. Andere Richtingen Posted: June 09, 2010 at 01:52 AM (#3554294)
Doesn't it seem obvious? That if you make alcohol some kind of special, forbidden thing that only adults can enjoy, that kids will want it very, very badly? Mine has expressed no interest, but when he asks, he's getting a taste. Considering the careful surveillance he performs on his food for such exotic things as legumes and onions, I don't think he's going to like it.
   33. McCoy Posted: June 09, 2010 at 04:18 AM (#3554415)
the video

The kid knows how to hold and drink a beer. Grabs it by the neck like a pro.
   34. Lassus Posted: June 09, 2010 at 05:30 AM (#3554430)
Charles Mingus had two nicknames for Philadelphia when he lived in the area of Germantown: "The City of Brotherly Shove" and "The Worst Place in America".
   35. 'Spos Posted: June 09, 2010 at 12:24 PM (#3554479)
Charles Mingus had two nicknames for Philadelphia when he lived in the area of Germantown: "The City of Brotherly Shove" and "The Worst Place in America".


He also wrote a pamphlet on toilet training your cat:
http://www.mingusmingusmingus.com/Mingus/cat_training.html

My dad let me help him brew beer when I was four or five, thanks dad!
...um, what was I writing again?
   36. i'm not STEAGLES and you shouldn't be either Posted: June 09, 2010 at 12:56 PM (#3554498)

Charles Mingus had two nicknames for Philadelphia when he lived in the area of Germantown: "The City of Brotherly Shove" and "The Worst Place in America".
someone's never been to camden.
   37. John Northey Posted: June 09, 2010 at 03:20 PM (#3554608)
Gee, lets see... selling alcohol at a stadium buried in ads for beer for a sport that lives on beer money and has had teams owned by beer companies in the past, promoting bringing your kids to these stadiums, and then there is shock ... SHOCK! ... that children are seen drinking beer while there.

Well, duh, if you promote, encourage, even celebrate drinking beer at the ballpark then of course kids taken there will end up drinking some.


Just glad it wasn't a pregnant woman - drinking while pregnant skyrockets the odds of fetal alcohol syndrome and even one drink can cause it. Check out the kids at many children's aid societies and you'll find a lot of children who pay the price of their parents drinking. ::jumps off soapbox::
   38. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: June 09, 2010 at 05:31 PM (#3554643)
Wasn't there some kid who ended up at DCFS because a security guard caught him with a Mike's Hard Lemonade at a Tigers game?

Yes.
Heh. I remember that surreal thread. MHS thought that giving your kid alcohol was basically the equivalent of child molesting, if not worse.
   39. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: June 09, 2010 at 05:49 PM (#3554654)
and even one drink can cause it.

Is this true?
   40. GregQ Posted: June 09, 2010 at 05:57 PM (#3554659)
Is this true?

A number of friends are or have been pregnant in the last years and all of them said this is untrue. I am sure that you can find a lot of research pro and con but the first site I looked at said no its false. http://tinyurl.com/28rseba
   41. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: June 09, 2010 at 06:04 PM (#3554665)
Lots of good stuff in this thread. I might be at my lowest point ever as a baseball fan, so I need funny threads on BBTF like a fat three year old needs a drag on his cancer stick.
   42. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: June 09, 2010 at 06:07 PM (#3554666)
Is this true?

I guarantee you that it is not. There is no proven safe level of alcohol consumption, but there has never been a documented case of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where the mother had fewer than 8 drinks a week during pregnancy.
   43. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: June 09, 2010 at 06:12 PM (#3554673)
I guarantee you that it is not. There is no proven safe level of alcohol consumption, but there has never been a documented case of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where the mother had fewer than 8 drinks a week during pregnancy.

This is what I suspected. I can't imagine most physicians, in their most honest moments, would say there's anything wrong with, say, a drink per week or so after the first trimester.

I'm sure going through labor is awful and all, but not drinking for nine months is what's really too horrible to contemplate.
   44. Lassus Posted: June 09, 2010 at 06:18 PM (#3554679)
Heh. I remember that surreal thread. MHS thought that giving your kid alcohol was basically the equivalent of child molesting, if not worse.

Along with your insane opinion on foster care, if we're going to be calling people out.
   45. cardsfanboy Posted: June 09, 2010 at 06:41 PM (#3554706)
I guarantee you that it is not. There is no proven safe level of alcohol consumption, but there has never been a documented case of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where the mother had fewer than 8 drinks a week during pregnancy.


really? that seems like an awful high number for people to be so panicky about it. (don't doubt you as this is the country of panickers who blow everything out of proportion)
   46. Rants Mulliniks (formerly Cold Prosimian) Posted: June 09, 2010 at 07:06 PM (#3554726)
My grandfather was given a prescription for brandy when he was 2, so I don't think a woman having one beer is going to hurt anything. Guinness was often recommended to expectant and nursing mothers back in the day.
   47. Charles S., consistent since he changed his mind Posted: June 09, 2010 at 07:07 PM (#3554727)
don't doubt you as this is the country of panickers who blow everything out of proportion
Good one.
   48. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: June 09, 2010 at 07:25 PM (#3554741)
Guinness was often recommended to expectant and nursing mothers back in the day.


Lots of iron.
   49. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: June 09, 2010 at 07:45 PM (#3554754)
Looks like I picked the wrong trimester to quit sniffing glue.
   50. phredbird Posted: June 09, 2010 at 08:11 PM (#3554768)
I can't imagine most physicians, in their most honest moments, would say there's anything wrong with, say, a drink per week or so after the first trimester.


i've been hearing this in recent years. i think the general call for complete teetotalling in pregnancy is because its hard to determine the exact boundary between what's okay and what's not. the consequences of guessing wrong are pretty grim.
   51. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 09, 2010 at 08:13 PM (#3554771)
I remember the first passover that I got shitfaced. Eight years old, three or four gulps of manishcewitz did me in.
   52. Lassus Posted: June 09, 2010 at 08:38 PM (#3554795)
I often wonder what percentage of people right now from the ages 21 to 40 have never been drunk even one time.
   53. The Gurus DO NOT BourbonSamurai Posted: June 10, 2010 at 06:43 AM (#3555183)
I often wonder what percentage of people right now from the ages 21 to 40 have never been drunk even one time.


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