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Thursday, October 27, 2011

ESPN: Caple: Don’t throw that home run ball back!

I had a mega-bargument over Eric Hosmer’s 1st HR being tossed back by an interlocking interloper at Yankee Stadium.

The baseball gods gave Jordan Hartsell a piece of history during Game 3 of the World Series. And due to the worst tradition in baseball, she threw it back in their faces.

Or more accurately, she threw it onto the field.

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Hartsell was sitting in the stands in left-center at Rangers Ballpark during the ninth inning Saturday night when Albert Pujols hit his record-tying third home run of the game. Fans reached up to catch the home run ball as it landed two rows in front of her, the ball deflected off their hands and smacked Jordan in the chest. Her mother picked the ball up from the ground and handed it to Jordan. For a brief moment, she held baseball history in her fingers. Just three players in history have hit three home runs in a World Series game—Babe Ruth (twice), Reggie Jackson and Pujols. And she had the historic ball in her hand! But because the ridiculous trend is for fans to throw back opponent’s home runs, Hartsell immediately whipped the valuable souvenir onto the field.

...Unfortunately, Hartsell is all too correct about that. Far too many fans are throwing home run balls back onto the field, copying a stupid tradition started by Cubs fans. Why anyone would happily copy a tradition begun by baseball’s ultimate losers is beyond me. But just as The Wave did three decades ago, this trend has inexplicably and disturbingly spread around the country to other teams.

Repoz Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:05 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:36 PM (#3977196)
I would much rather watch someone throw a home run back than see some nitwit in the home teams t-shirt jumping up and down and being all excited when a visiting player has just hit a home run. That drives me nuts. What are you excited about? The other team is kicking your ass.
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:38 PM (#3977197)
This should never be done anywhere but Wrigley (unless you are throwing it back to the field from the street outside the park and the opponent is the Yankees and it's the ALCS).
   3. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:43 PM (#3977203)
Once a fan catches a ball, it's his ball, and if he wants to throw it back on the field or sell it to the highest bidder or shove it up his ass in the restroom, that's none of Jim Capel's God-damn business.
   4. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:51 PM (#3977209)
Once a fan catches a ball, it's his ball, and if he wants to throw it back on the field or sell it to the highest bidder or shove it up his ass in the restroom, that's none of Jim Capel's God-damn business.
They should be ejected from the ballpark, though. Don't throw stuff on the field.

As Peter Abraham often says, it's not like they destroy the ball. They just give it to someone sitting next to the dugout, someone who paid a lot more for those seats than you did, and might care less about the home team than you do. Should that fan throw it back? It's the same ball.
   5. Charlie O Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:53 PM (#3977212)
Just enforce the policy of ejecting patrons who throw things onto the field of play. That silly trend will die in a hurry.
   6. John DiFool2 Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:57 PM (#3977214)
Cubs fans used to bring in fake balls to throw back, and would thus keep the real one. People like this lady need the concept explained to them it seems.
   7. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: October 27, 2011 at 08:57 PM (#3977215)
Just enforce the policy of ejecting patrons who throw things onto the field of play. That silly trend will die in a hurry.
I think some ballparks do that already. I think most fans assume it doesn't apply to a home run hit by the other team, or they just let the peer pressure get to them.
   8. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 27, 2011 at 09:00 PM (#3977217)
If I caught a home run ball right now, I'd totally throw it at Jim Caple's head. Just because.
   9. Dale Sams Posted: October 27, 2011 at 09:13 PM (#3977227)
Jose...I never say 'this', but THISX1000.

That and grinning idiots who wave at the camera when their team is getting pasted.

...but I would also never throw a HR ball back either.
   10. Don Malcolm Posted: October 27, 2011 at 09:19 PM (#3977232)
Don't worry, Theo will put a stop to all this. He'll also make all the Cubbies drink O'Doul's in the clubhouse...
   11. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship Posted: October 27, 2011 at 09:21 PM (#3977236)
Once a fan catches a ball, it's his ball, and if he wants to throw it back on the field or sell it to the highest bidder or shove it up his ass in the restroom, that's none of Jim Capel's God-damn business.

Totally agree. First people were whining because the guy who caught Jeter's 3000th hit didn't hire Scott Boras to represent him, and now this guy's fretting about an admittedly stupid but totally harmless tradition, the obvious purpose of which is to ensure that foreigners and other dubious characters will never, ever understand the game.
   12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 27, 2011 at 09:26 PM (#3977239)
He'll also make all the Cubbies drink O'Doul's in the clubhouse...


There's no need to be cruel. Just give 'em water or juice or something.
   13. Don Malcolm Posted: October 27, 2011 at 09:42 PM (#3977254)
There's no need to be cruel. Just give 'em water or juice or something.

Tough, tough love, baby!!!
   14. zonk Posted: October 27, 2011 at 10:07 PM (#3977272)
Cubs fans used to bring in fake balls to throw back, and would thus keep the real one. People like this lady need the concept explained to them it seems.


Yup -

One my earliest bleacher memories, back when the bleachers were still just a sort of hip but moderately unknown beer garden, was attending a game in the mid 80s. A Red -- Nick Esasky, I believe -- plopped an HR a few rows back that a young kid a few seats over ended up with. You could see he was anguished -- it was in the later innings, so the well-lubricated folks behind him were bellowing to throw it back, and though the kid had on a Cubs shirt, you could tell he was stuck between wanting to retain his keepsake and following decorum. An obvious ballhawk a few seats down from me reached into his pocket, pulled out a ratty baseball and somewhat stealthily passed it to our group and then us over to the kid and his dad to throw back instead. I asked him what would happen if HE now got one - and he reached into his other pocket to pull out another.... "One to teach, one to use yourself," he said.

You could never do this now, though -- I think the bleacher gates are now manned by TSA trainees who basically conduct strip searches on your way into the park... I don't think there's any conceivable way you could sneak a baseball into the bleachers from outside anymore.
   15. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: October 27, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3977312)
Dodger Stadium has the same tradition. That said, if I ever caught a homerun ball there is no way I'm throwing it back.
   16. Hugh Jorgan Posted: October 27, 2011 at 11:58 PM (#3977331)
That and grinning idiots who wave at the camera when their team is getting pasted

Sorry, but the biggest tossers at any sporting event anywhere in the world is the d*ckhead on his mobile phone..waving to the camera AND pointing at the phone...what an arsehole.

BTW, I also, would never throw a ball back onto the field if I got one.
   17. zack Posted: October 28, 2011 at 02:40 PM (#3979584)
Just three players in history have hit three home runs in a World Series game—Babe Ruth (twice), Reggie Jackson and Pujols. And she had the historic ball in her hand! But because the ridiculous trend is for fans to throw back opponent’s home runs, Hartsell immediately whipped the valuable souvenir onto the field.


So I guess she won't go on to invent and star in a hybrid baseball-basketball-wordplay sport.
   18. SouthSideRyan Posted: October 28, 2011 at 02:51 PM (#3979601)
You could never do this now, though -- I think the bleacher gates are now manned by TSA trainees who basically conduct strip searches on your way into the park... I don't think there's any conceivable way you could sneak a baseball into the bleachers from outside anymore.


I've never had anything like this happen to me. Flasks, food, Gatorade, no issues. You must have a suspicious face.
   19. Nasty Nate Posted: October 28, 2011 at 03:01 PM (#3979618)
Also, I don't think you are banned from bringing baseballs into parks so you probably wouldn't have to sneak it. Hell, they sell the things inside the stadium!
   20. zonk Posted: October 28, 2011 at 03:38 PM (#3979664)
I've never had anything like this happen to me. Flasks, food, Gatorade, no issues. You must have a suspicious face.


At the bleacher entrance? They do a full pat down -- or at least whack at you with sticks -- a...ummm... friend had a flask confiscated, and another almost had to give up a pack of cigars.

The grandstand entrances aren't nearly so tough - but they've been pretty hard core at the bleachers.

I guess I've never - well, at least not in the last 10 years or so (last time I brought one was in '98... Cardinals and Mac or no - I was keeping anything salable) - tried to bring a ball into the bleachers, but it seems like they've come down pretty hard on anything tossable... I even had a friend get an uninflated beach ball confiscated last summer (not that I was upset about that).
   21. Shredder Posted: October 28, 2011 at 03:47 PM (#3979675)
I don't think there's any conceivable way you could sneak a baseball into the bleachers from outside anymore.
You must have missed the earlier part of the thread.
Once a fan catches a ball, it's his ball, and if he wants to throw it back on the field or sell it to the highest bidder or shove it up his ass in the restroom, that's none of Jim Capel's God-damn business.
Problem solved.

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