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1. The Rafael Bournigal fan club Posted: December 07, 2005 at 01:04 AM (#1764723)Tom DeLay as their Ethics Ombudsman.
Jim Duquette as their General Manager.
Michael Brown as their Diaster Preparedness Director.
Bob Shrum as their Campaign Manager.
Michael Cimino as their Comptroller.
William Hung to sing the National Anthem at all home games.
John Kennedy, Jr., as their Charter Pilot.
Dick Stuart as their Defensive Coordinator.
I got a million of 'em, folks. I'll be here all week. Be sure to tip your waitress.
Little justifies it by saying: "It was out first home game against the SF Giants, and you want your best pitcher on the hill in that situation. Plus, I asked him if he could face Bonds three-four more times, and said OK."
Grady Little, not Jimy Williams.
A couple of extra wins when playing the Dodgers this year?
The benefit of not employing Grady Little.
The Cubs gave permission to LA, so that's all they get.
The Dodgers are the biggest trainwreck in baseball. Met fans are thankful they're not the Dodgers, that's how bad it is.
From the mlb.com article:
At leats he did not hire a family member to manage.
Grady Little managed a couple teams with very good offenses and generally didn't do much to screw that up. He is willing to use weaker defenders to get bats in the lineup. The man started Jeremy Giambi in the outfield more than once.
Grady Little is easily the worst baseball tactician I've ever seen in my life. He appears completely incapable of recognizing, for instance, that if he brings in a lefty reliever, the other manager might pinch-hit with a righthanded batter. Grady will screw up innumerable double-switches this year.
Grady Little has no idea when a pitcher is tired, is effective, or is ineffective. He removes relievers when they're going good and leaves starters in who have lost command of all their breaking stuff and were going to win the game until he left them out there and...
Thank ####### god we won the world series after that.
Don't know how much that means, but in the context of his tactical issues, I do think it at least points to a problem.
See, that's just it. If the Dodgers deliberately try the worst case scenario from an analytic point of view, I think the universe might just kick back at the scientific establishment just for spite.
I'll try this one. It's not a distinguished list.
Morgan (won 2 div titles with a crappy team; turned around a sinking ship in 1988)
Francona (won the big one)
(big heaps of space)
Johnson (didn't do much right, but not much wrong either, got on well with the minor league products, which the Sox had loads of)
(bigger heaps of space)
McNamara (self-absorbed jerk, and that was before 86...master of CYA)
Hobson (blatantly unqualified)
Zimmer (terrible tactician, couldn't run a clubhouse, blew it in 1978)
Little (you just can't get over that move)
Man, that list blows. If this went back to 1967, Dick Williams would be a mile ahead of anybody on this list, and Eddie Kasko might be #2.
Houk might be #1.
Why is he so beloved? His record in Boston isn't much. You guys think he was overachieving?
He did this all year long, too. He didn't seem to understand that "starting the runner" makes little sense when leadfoots like Mirabelli, Ortiz, Jeremi Giambi, etc are the baserunner.
He is a brutal manager in-game. Truly, completely, unimaginably awful. He is reasonably capable in the clubhouse, but that was before he was a national laughingstock, too. Do you think that the starting pitchers are going to respect Grady's decisions, for example? Why would they, really?
Have there been a lot of managerial hires that people thought poorly of but turned out well? I suppose you would say Terry Francona in 2004. Joe Torre in 1996-present, Casey Stengel in 1949 and Walter Alston in 1954. The Gerbil, Don Zimmer, did win a division title in 1989 with the Cubbies but showed his ineptitude in the playoffs with his ability to find ways for Will Clark to beat him.
Ralph Houk in Detroit and Boston did rebuild losing teams to put them in a position to win, and promptly left. Lots of players loved him..a tough but fair, who would always "protect" his players and find silver linings in rain clouds, always optimisitc. As Bill James once pointed out, he managed for 24 years and was never fired.
Grady was gone regardless. I don't think getting knocked out earlier in the postseason would've helped him much.
I've actually blocked out a lot of the Little era. I do remember him being horrible at managing a bullpen, including absolutely slagging Kim, pitching him 5 days in a row for no reason. Then he sat Kim for an entire series against the Yanks, and then decided to replace him as closer in the middle of the playoffs. Okay, it's all coming back now.
There, fixed ;)
Do yourself a favor, Darren. Keep it buried. Repressed memories like the ones we all have about Grady are meant to stay buried. Deeply.
Nah; Little was done in Boston unless he managed to go deep into October. The Sox front office had been failing to extend him for months.
Of course, the Phillies now have to contend with a divisional rival with an infinite budget. Hopefully if the Braves fall behind in the division series they will collapse and fall out of the Wild Card race too.
This is hilarious.
The Dodgers are the biggest trainwreck in baseball. Met fans are thankful they're not the Dodgers, that's how bad it is.
From one Giants-Sox fan to another - ain't life grand ? ;)
Having looked it up, Grady had a strikeout-em-out-throw-em-out in Games 2-4 of the ALCS, including twice in the first inning. 3 K/CS in a 7 game series, all in consecutive games. That's amazing
I think that I've been insulted. It's kind of the opposite of a back-handed compliment . . . a fore-handed insult, or something like that.
On the same day, December 6, the Pirates trade for Casey, the Dodgers hire Grady Little. And I thought it was December 7th that's supposed to live in infamy. Go figure.
me too. i started drinking when pedro came back out for the 8th aand didn't stop until everything in my room was gone. i have vague memories of walking along the train tracks that night with a flask of jim beam. it was a bad hangover the next day, but it was worth not remembering the end of that game.
Did you destroy everything or were you simply rendered blind. I was watching with a friend who was taping the game. We debated whether Pedro should be back out there. After a couple batters, we were on the same side. While Boone's HR was still in the air, my friend removed the tape and destroyed it with a baseball bat. I thought that made sense.
• (about two years ago) Frank McCourt buys Dodgers from Fox and hires Paul DePodesta away from the Oakland A's to be the GM.
• (October 3, 2005) McCourt allows Jim Tracey to leave his manager position after a 71-91 season. (Did he jump or was he pushed...?)
• (October 29, 2005) McCourt fires Depodesta from his GM position. (half way through a four year? contract.)
• (November 16, 2005) Hired Ned Colletti away from San Francisco Giants to replace DePodesta
• (December 6, 2005) Colletti hires Grady Little as manager.
***giggle, giggle, GAG!!!***
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Grady Little is an old style manager who simply doesn't believe in this kind of heavy preparation. I don't think that he's 100% wrong, but overall I do believe that the trend toward football coach-like managers is a good thing.
no most of my stuff was there the next day, and eventually i was able to see again.
Grady Little is an old style manager who simply doesn't believe in this kind of heavy preparation. I don't think that he's 100% wrong, but overall I do believe that the trend toward football coach-like managers is a good thing.
overdoing it with matchups and statistics could cause of the manager to lose sight of the picture and so guys that need regular rest (like relief pitchers) would get overworked while other players would sit on the bench forever. thing is, grady ignored the stats and still had no idea about the big picture.
I mean, people had started calling him Forrest Gump halfway through 2002, and it wasn't just because of how he talked.
Hey, Matt Morris is just going to replace Brett Tomko... it's a wash!
I've actually blocked out a lot of the Little era
I will forever fondly remember the Little ERA. I moved to Boston in May 2001 and almost immediatly fell in love with the Red Sox. Around that same time I also discovered the Rob Neyer message board and the dearly departed Baseball Primer.
I still believe that the 2002 and 2003 Red Sox teams were two of the greatest baseball teams to ever take to a diamond. While keeping the core of the team almost entirely intact (exchanging only Daubach for Ortiz) they managed to lead the league in starters ERA one year and then outscore the 2nd best offense in baseball by 10% the next year.
While I have since come to realize that Eric Van is completely off his rocker, his predictions that those Red Sox teams would win 105+ games weren't unreasonable.
Nah; Little was done in Boston unless he managed to go deep into October.
While I agree with you in pronciple, I would like to point out that the 2003 Red Sox went the same 12 games deep into October. No fewer than the 2005 White Sox did.
That is all.
All in good fun, Sam.
Let me see if I have this straight.
There was an unemployed manager out there whose last night of work was Game 7 of the American LeagueChampionship Series.
There was a former manager out there whose last season contained 95 wins.
There was an ex-manager out there who was fired because he trusted instinct over statistic, people over paradigms, baseball over everything.
And this same guy, the Dodgers just hired him?
Ned Colletti can pump his right fist any time now.
That sounds exactly like that piece of ####
Actually, it was Little's decision to leave Pedro in the game that I was talking about agreeing with.
Although now that you mention it, I didn't think the DeShields trade was too bad when it happened either.
Okay, take your time. And when you're ready, use this anatomically-correct doll to show the jury exactly where Grady Little touched you.
Lots of luck, Dodgers fans. I pity you.
This reminds me of when the Dodgers signed Kevin Brown, and had to give him his own private air transportation to Georgia, because he didn't really like being in Los Angeles.
That seems like a great hire - somebody who doesn't want to be in the city where your company is located.
Next hires:
Hitting coach Kirk Gibson
Pitching coach Orel Hershiser
Bullpen coach Burt Hooton
Bullpen catcher Johnny Roseboro
Trainer Fernando Valenzuela
First base coach Steve Garvey
Third base coach Ron Cey
Bench coaches Eric Karros, Steve Sax
Jailhouse liaison Pedro Guerrero
Official spokesman Sandy Koufax
Anointed lord and savior Eric Gagne
General manager the zombie corpse of Walter Alston
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