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Monday, February 04, 2013

ESPN: How the Cardinals use sabermetrics

Mozeliak’s goal is for the coaches to tell him and the statistics department what information they want and need, rather than just feeding them information the analytics department has put together. At some point though, as more teams figure out how to use advanced statistics in a way that will trickle down to on-field decisions, will the Cardinals need to reinvent or revise the entire process to maintain an edge?

“I think so,” he said.

“Your first statement is the truest of all,” Mozeliak continued. “When you said, ‘How do you have a competitive advantage?” There may come a time when there is no place to push stats, like some of the defensive world is still improving, right? Nobody feels like they’ve got that nailed, but with the creation of f/x data there’s a chance it is going to get pretty good quickly. (FIELDf/x data tracks player positions, providing feedback for reaction times and if a play in the field was even possible). So from an organizational standpoint, we are always looking at ways that might have nothing to do with stats, but give us that advantage.”

For now, Mozeliak’s desk offers a clue into one way the Cardinals have maintained a competitive edge since he became general manager in October of 2007. There are a few black binders scattered about on his desk. There is also a copy of “The Hardball Times 2013 Annual” on top of a pile of papers. When I ask if it is alright if I mention that he reads these sabermetric books, Mozeliak smiles and with the tone of confidence only a GM with one World Series championship under his belt (and plans for more rings in the future) can have, says, “sure.”

“They are there, I use them,” Mozeliak admitted. “My geeky reading.”

Thanks to Los.

Repoz Posted: February 04, 2013 at 11:15 AM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. depletion Posted: February 04, 2013 at 11:51 AM (#4362086)
Are they going to use a random number generator and keep track of the numbers that lead to each decision? For example, if you have a .300 hitter and a .250 hitter, all other things being equal, you should use the .300 hitter more often, but not to the exclusion of the .250 hitter. I can see the manager rolling dice in the dugout, great for the TV crowd. Perhaps better to have a small handheld random number generator in the jacket pocket.
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: February 04, 2013 at 01:32 PM (#4362222)
based on the headline i keep having various words occur to me in response:

grudgingly

resentfully

fitfully
   3. adenzeno Posted: February 04, 2013 at 01:32 PM (#4362225)
Ahhh random numbers, like when Roger Repoz hit 11 HR in my 44 game, 1971 Strat O Matic Season...I still have the stats....I knew it was weird even then as he only hit 13 all year in real life..
   4. DL from MN Posted: February 04, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4362298)
The analysis is going to add a layer of complexity to the data. Defensive positioning will improve, which will skew the numbers for certain teams, which will cause defensive stats to add the positioning data to make sense of them.
   5. salvomania Posted: February 04, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4362308)
He also utilizes WAR... "There is no perfect stat, but when you look at trying to define Wins Above Replacement, it is a very simple place to grab information and get a feel for it," [Mozeliak] said.


Then what the @#$%^&* is he doing signing Ty Wigginton?????
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 04, 2013 at 02:30 PM (#4362352)
This does not explain the phenomenon of Bo Hart.
   7. musial6 Posted: February 04, 2013 at 03:03 PM (#4362406)
Then what the @#$%^&* is he doing signing Ty Wigginton?????


"When everybody is doing the same thing or close to it, is there a competitive advantage? Probably not, right? So when you think about how all organizations now are valuing certain things, what we do now is spend a lot of energy trying to determine what is being overvalued and then look at what is undervalued. Then maybe we should be swimming at that end of the pool. So, that's one focus."

John Mozeliak wants to swim at Wigginton's end of the pool.

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