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Sunday, April 06, 2014

ESPN: Jeter Passes Molitor For 8th On All-Time Hit List

New York Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter gained sole possession of eighth place on baseball’s all-time hit list with two hits in the first four innings Sunday against the Blue Jays, giving him 3,320 career hits and moving him one ahead of Hall of Famer Paul Molitor.

That also makes Jeter the leader for career hits by a right-handed American League hitter.

The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 06, 2014 at 03:37 PM | 48 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: derek jeter, great baseball players, hitting, new york yankees

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   1. SG Posted: April 06, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4680485)
Yeah Jeets!
   2. Publius Publicola Posted: April 06, 2014 at 04:49 PM (#4680488)
Big deal. When he passes Ruth for most gift baskets, then I'll be impressed.
   3. GregD Posted: April 06, 2014 at 05:01 PM (#4680494)
Big deal. When he passes Ruth for most gift baskets, then I'll be impressed.
Babe Ruth was so good, the girls left gift baskets for him
   4. GregD Posted: April 06, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4680496)
Are they not counting Cap Anson? Isn't Jeter now 9th?
   5. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 06, 2014 at 05:08 PM (#4680501)
About time he gets some good press.
   6. deputydrew Posted: April 06, 2014 at 05:40 PM (#4680514)
I've always found the Most X by an AL/NL Player to be sort of interesting. I get the sense it mattered a lot more back in the day when the leagues were more distinct and were, at least perceived, to be more separate. Jeter's a great player with an incredible career. The "most hits by an AL righty" seems like a forced record to me.
   7. JE (Jason) Posted: April 06, 2014 at 05:41 PM (#4680515)
Babe Ruth was so good, the girls left gift baskets for him

And that was even before they got to first base.
   8. DavidFoss Posted: April 06, 2014 at 05:55 PM (#4680520)
@6
It is possible that "official" stats don't start until 1876.
   9. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 06, 2014 at 05:56 PM (#4680522)
Babe Ruth was so good, the girls left gift baskets for him.

That's only because he hadn't been circumcised.
   10. Captain Supporter Posted: April 06, 2014 at 06:34 PM (#4680533)
Its predictable that the haters have shown up with their uninformed and puerile rants. Someday we will find an actual ball player or manager or anyone in the game (besides A-cheat) with something negative to say about Derek. Someday. Wait lets try an arch rival, the great Pedro. Surely, now that he is retired...

"Pedro Martinez paid Derek Jeter the ultimate compliment, saying the New York Yankees shortstop was the one player he wanted to avoid during the postseason. Pedro was asked whether he pitched around any hitters in the postseason. The three-time Cy Young Award winner specifically mentioned Jeter as the guy he tried avoiding. “Yeah, plenty of them,” said Martinez. “Depending on the situation. Depending on the situation. The one I did not want to see forever in the postseason was actually (Derek) Jeter. Jeter was just uncomfortable to pitch to, especially in the postseason. It seems like he won’t swing and miss at a pitch. And then you make a great pitch, a quality pitch, and he fouls it off.”

I guess not.
   11. haven Posted: April 06, 2014 at 06:35 PM (#4680534)
The "most hits by an AL righty" seems like a forced record to me.


I don't particularly consider it a record. More like a fact. Or perhaps a trivia question.
   12. Lassus Posted: April 06, 2014 at 06:40 PM (#4680538)
Paul Molitor was 8th all-time? I.... did not know that. Nor would I have guessed it.
   13. JE (Jason) Posted: April 06, 2014 at 06:42 PM (#4680539)
Its predictable that the haters have shown up with their uninformed and puerile rants.

I don't see any hate here, at least not yet. Heck, there exist only two posts that qualify for snark status and they're pretty tame.
   14. Captain Supporter Posted: April 06, 2014 at 06:44 PM (#4680542)
I'll admit to a slight case of the anticipations, but that is from a long history with this site :-)
   15. JE (Jason) Posted: April 06, 2014 at 06:57 PM (#4680548)
I'll admit to a slight case of the anticipations, but that is from a long history with this site :-)

I think it's called premature gift basketulation. :-)
   16. deputydrew Posted: April 06, 2014 at 07:02 PM (#4680554)
Its predictable that the haters have shown up with their uninformed and puerile rants.


This is a joke, right?
   17. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 06, 2014 at 07:06 PM (#4680558)
Its predictable that the haters have shown up with their uninformed and puerile rants. Someday we will find an actual ball player or manager or anyone in the game (besides A-cheat) with something negative to say about Derek. Someday. Wait lets try an arch rival, the great Pedro. Surely, now that he is retired...


If you're going to act superior, you might try learning to write above a fifth grade level first.
   18. AndrewJ Posted: April 06, 2014 at 07:06 PM (#4680559)
I've always found the Most X by an AL/NL Player to be sort of interesting. I get the sense it mattered a lot more back in the day when the leagues were more distinct and were, at least perceived, to be more separate.

FYI: 346 of Jeter's 3320 career hits came in interleague games (h/t BB-Ref).
   19. Bug Selig Posted: April 06, 2014 at 07:08 PM (#4680560)
It's predictable that the Yankee fans have shown up with their megalomaniacal paranoia.
   20. bobm Posted: April 06, 2014 at 07:12 PM (#4680564)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_career.shtml (going into today)

Rank Player (yrs, age) Hits Bats

1.Pete Rose (24) 4256 B
2.Ty Cobb+ (24) 4189 L
3.Hank Aaron+ (23) 3771R
4.Stan Musial+ (22) 3630 L
5.Tris Speaker+ (22) 3514 L
6.Cap Anson+ (27) 3435 R
7.Honus Wagner+ (21) 3420 R
8.Carl Yastrzemski+ (23) 3419 L
9.Paul Molitor+ (21) 3319 R
10.Derek Jeter (20, 40) 3318 R
11.Eddie Collins+ (25) 3315 L

   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 06, 2014 at 07:56 PM (#4680584)
Are they not counting Cap Anson? Isn't Jeter now 9th?

MLB only counts American & National League stats, so Anson's 423 National Association hits aren't recognized, although BB-Ref includes them, as reflected in the list in #20.
   22. I am the Can Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:02 PM (#4680587)
With the expansion of interleague, they're effectively two conferences in one league at this point. I don't think AL and NL records matter much anymore.
   23. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:04 PM (#4680588)
bb-ref should at least give an option to turn off the NA (and UA and PL) stats on the career leaders list. Unless you're going to count Jeter's 554 hits in the minors, there is no reason that NA stats should count for Anson.
   24. DanG Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:08 PM (#4680590)
4500+ Times on Base

Rank  Player (yrs)  Times On Base Bats
1. Pete Rose 
(24)         5929 B
2. Barry Bonds 
(22)       5599 L
3. Ty Cobb
+ (24)          5532 L
4. Rickey Henderson
+ (255343 R
5. Carl Yastrzemski
+ (235304 L
6. Stan Musial
+ (22)      5282 L
7. Hank Aaron
+ (23)       5205 R
8. Tris Speaker
+ (22)     4998 L
9. Babe Ruth
+ (22)        4978 L
10. Eddie Collins
+ (25)   4891 L
11. Willie Mays
+ (22)     4791 R
12. Ted Williams
+ (19)    4714 L
13. Mel Ott
+ (22)         4648 L
14. Eddie Murray
+ (21)    4606 B
15. Frank Robinson
+ (21)  4561 R
16. 
'Derek Jeter' (20)    4534 R
17. Honus Wagner
+ (21)    4508 R
18. Craig Biggio 
(20)     4505 R 
   25. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:10 PM (#4680595)
With the expansion of interleague, they're effectively two conferences in one league at this point. I don't think AL and NL records matter much anymore.


Here's a fun one: who has the most career games at DH in the National League?
   26. GregD Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:11 PM (#4680596)
bb-ref should at least give an option to turn off the NA (and UA and PL) stats on the career leaders list. Unless you're going to count Jeter's 554 hits in the minors, there is no reason that NA stats should count for Anson.
Absolutely. I can't even count the number of times when six teams in one of Jeter's minor leagues formed 75% of a new league that was then recognized as the major league. Perfect analogy.
   27. AROM Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4680597)
#25,

I'll guess Chipper Jones.
   28. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:17 PM (#4680599)
Bonds?
   29. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:21 PM (#4680602)
Bonds is #2 on the list, Jones is #4.
   30. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:24 PM (#4680604)
Put me down for Adam Dunn.
   31. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:24 PM (#4680605)
Adam Dunn?

Edit: Damn, he didn't DH much in the NL. Why the hell not?

   32. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:33 PM (#4680608)
Mike Piazza?
   33. JE (Jason) Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:38 PM (#4680610)
Todd Helton?
   34. Super Creepy Derek Lowe (GGC) Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:40 PM (#4680612)
I have no clue, so I am gonna make a wild ass guess and choose Piazza.
   35. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:47 PM (#4680616)
aramis rameriz
   36. The District Attorney Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:48 PM (#4680618)
Holliday?
   37. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:49 PM (#4680620)
pujols?
   38. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:50 PM (#4680621)
It's Piazza with 49 games. The unmentioned Carlos Lee is third.
   39. DanG Posted: April 06, 2014 at 09:37 PM (#4680641)
1800+ Runs scored

Rank  Player (yrs)  Runs Scored Bats
1. Rickey Henderson
+ (252295 R
2. Ty Cobb
+ (24)          2246 L
3. Barry Bonds 
(22)       2227 L
4. Hank Aaron
+ (23)       2174 R
   Babe Ruth
+ (22)        2174 L
6. Pete Rose 
(24)         2165 B
7. Willie Mays
+ (22)      2062 R
8. Cap Anson
+ (27)        1999 R
9. Stan Musial
+ (22)      1949 L
10. Alex Rodriguez 
(20)   1919 R
11. Lou Gehrig
+ (17)      1888 L
12. Tris Speaker
+ (22)    1882 L
13. 
'Derek Jeter' (20)    1877 R
14. Mel Ott
+ (22)         1859 L
15. Craig Biggio 
(20)     1844 R
16. Frank Robinson
+ (21)  1829 R
17. Eddie Collins
+ (25)   1821 L
18. Carl Yastrzemski
+(231816 L 
   40. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 06, 2014 at 10:27 PM (#4680657)
#10, lighten up mate, you come across as the biggest tosser on the board.

There is not a poster here that doesn't respect Jeter's achievements on the diamond and the longevity with which he's accomplished the feat.
   41. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 06, 2014 at 10:31 PM (#4680659)
DanG,

Can you run a table for who's made the most outs?

Thanks

grammar mistake...
   42. bobm Posted: April 06, 2014 at 10:46 PM (#4680663)
[41] http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/outs_made_career.shtml

   43. DanG Posted: April 06, 2014 at 11:29 PM (#4680683)
Outs Made

Rank  Player (yrs)  Outs Made Bats
1. Pete Rose 
(24)         10328 B
2. Hank Aaron
+ (23)        9136 R
3. Carl Yastrzemski
+ (23)  9126 L
4. Cal Ripken
+ (21)        8893 R
5. Eddie Murray
+ (21)      8569 B
6. Rickey Henderson
+ (25)  8510 R
7. Omar Vizquel 
(24)       8433 B
8. Dave Winfield
+ (22)     8422 R
9. Robin Yount
+ (20)       8415 R
10. Brooks Robinson
+ (23)  8340 R
11. Craig Biggio 
(20)      8272 R
12. Luis Aparicio
+ (18)    8110 R
13. Willie Mays
+ (22)      8056 R
14. Paul Molitor
+ (21)     8040 R
15. Rabbit Maranville
+(237906 R
16. Rafael Palmeiro 
(20)   7858 L
17. Lou Brock
+ (19)        7823 L
18. 
'Derek Jeter'(20)      7817 R 
   44. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:02 AM (#4680698)
So if he gets 600 ABs he will be top 10 all time in outs made.
   45. GregD Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:04 AM (#4680700)
So if he gets 600 ABs he will be top 10 all time in outs made.
at last a reason to root for his health!
   46. DavidFoss Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:57 AM (#4680718)
532 outs is a lot for one year. He'd need a lot more than 600 PA's. Not even the Yankees would play him every day with a sub .200 OBP. My guess is that he passes Aparicio, but falls short of Biggio.
   47. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:17 AM (#4680719)
Rank Player (yrs) Times On Base Bats
1. Pete Rose (24) 5929 B


Almost 400 ahead of Bonds in second. That is rather impressive, maybe more than the hit record.
   48. Mayor Blomberg Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:47 AM (#4680721)
Almost 400 ahead of Bonds in second. That is rather impressive, maybe more than the hit record.


330, in fact.

What's more impressive is that while Rose is also #1 on the Outs Made chart, Bonds isn't in the top 18, so he's at least 2500 outs behind.

that's one hell of a ratio.

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