"I couldn’t stop myself from doing the things I was doing, even knowing the consequences,” Phillips told Lauer on Monday.

This explains his tenure with the Mets.

I can't help but read those quotation marks as sarcastic.

This is the only case I'd ever give any credence to the sex addiction BS. That girl was that ugly.

It would have been better if he had done this at a fake press conference.

Yeah, I was about to ask who ESPN would have hired to play Steve Phillips in the faux interview.

That girl was that ugly.

Objection. Assuming facts not in evidence.

That girl was that ugly.

Objection. Assuming facts not in evidence.

That's how you know he has an addiction. Only the truly out-of-control would willingly #### a Seal.

I'm expecting big things out of this thread. Not Brooke Hundley "big things", but this thing has great potential. Don't let me down.

Phillips said he realized he had a sexual addiction problem in August, while he was having an affair with ESPN production assistant Brooke Hundley.

He looked down into her straining, sweaty face and said, "My God, what have I become?"

Heh.

All snark aside, I am really happy for Steve Phillips that he took steps to cure his sex addiction. Good for him.

Now I wonder if he'll enter a program to deal with his asinine baseball analysis addiction.

I'm expecting big things out of this thread. Not Brooke Hundley "big things", but this thing has great potential. Don't let me down.

So what are you hunting for? A revisiting of this classic thread?

That's how you know he has an addiction. Only the truly out-of-control would willingly #### a Seal.

Clearly you can't tell the difference between a seal and a sea lion. For shame!

Clearly you can't tell the difference between a seal and a sea lion. For shame!

"Wow, buddy, it looks like you blew a [sea lion]!"

It just isn't the same.

I can't help but read those quotation marks as sarcastic.

Phillips didn’t talk extensively about his time at Pine Grove, but did say that it is a place for people who are “broken” and “struggling to find answers.”

Imagine Bennett Brauer as a sexaholic.

Or, um, don't.

I love modern America. Get caught with your hand in the cookie jar? It is not your fault, you have a cookie problem. Steve Phillips couldn't keep his fly zipped. Its not an addiction, but an equipment malfunction.

I love modern America. Get caught with your hand in the cookie jar? It is not your fault, you have a cookie problem. Steve Phillips couldn't keep his fly zipped. Its not an addiction, but an equipment malfunction.

I like what Kelsey Grammer said about cocaine during an interview in which the interviewer was congratulating him for kicking the habit:

"I never denied that I enjoyed it."

Was there any truth to the rumor that Phillips was only trying to even up the "Late 90s Mets front-ofice screwing Hundleys" quota? Does this even make sense?

I love modern America. Get caught with your hand in the cookie jar? It is not your fault, you have a cookie problem. Steve Phillips couldn't keep his fly zipped. Its not an addiction, but an equipment malfunction.

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about sex addiction. We had a good thread on this a few days ago - did you read it?

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about sex addiction. We had a good thread on this a few days ago - did you read it?

What a heinous crime that he missed a thread. And that he may have formed his opinion on a subject from outside the BTF community.

I wonder what Brooke thinks.

EDIT: Since this seems to be the off-topic thread, are there any hockey fans here? I'm contemplating following the sport more closely due to the Ovechkin-Crosby thing. Is there any place I can read some good analysis on who is actually better?

I missed the sex addiction thread. I blame my gambling addiction for being distracted this last week.

Since this seems to be the off-topic thread, are there any hockey fans here?

Given that Canadians are still allowed to post to this site (at least until Jim gets the IP filter working) there are a bunch of hockey fans here.

As to analysis on who is better between Crosby and Ovechkin, I have no idea where you would find that. I haven't really found a good hockey analysis site yet, but I must admit that I haven't looked much for one.

Speaking of off-topic, hockey and bad GMs turning into analysts, is there any scandal we can find on Mike Milbury to get him off NBC, NESN and TSN?

is there any scandal we can find on Mike Milbury to get him off NBC, NESN and TSN?

No. If there was, it would have happened already.

Given his stellar record as a GM of the Islanders, I don't understand why anyone hired him for anything involving hockey in any way. I can only assume that he threatened to beat people with their own shoe unless they hired him.

So what are you hunting for? A revisiting of this classic thread?

Basically, uh, yeah. There's just so much to work with...

"I couldn’t stop myself from doing the things I was doing, even knowing the consequences,”

Now, now, Steve, women aren't objects...

is there any scandal we can find on Mike Milbury to get him off NBC, NESN and TSN?

That he's actually Riverdale's resident glutton, Jughead Jones?

And that he may have formed his opinion on a subject from outside the BTF community.

I have no problem with outside opinions, as long as they aren't dumb. Which that one, unfortunately, is.

10: Heh, thanks for that, King. Though, the whole "plutonic" bit later in the column still confuses me...

That he's actually Riverdale's resident glutton, Jughead Jones?

I didn't get this until I googleimaged Milbury.

Oh good god. First a poop hijack, now a hockey hijack?

Oh good god. First a poop hijack, now a hockey hijack?

It's still a poop hijack. Milbury's performance as a GM was ####.

I wonder what Brooke thinks.

I sure don't. Did you read that letter she wrote to Mrs. Phillips? That girl is almost as nutty as Glenn Close's Fatal Attraction character.

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about sex addiction. We had a good thread on this a few days ago - did you read it?

I read it. And you may want to sit down...it did not actually proved sex addiction is real. And even if it is real, there's no way to know if all our celebrity friends who claim to have it actually do or are looking for sympathy.

I think the next big addiction we will hear about is 'money addiction'. I can't believe the Ken Lay types havn't insulted our collective intelligences by claiming they are victims of this addiction and had no control over what they were doing. It's coming folks.

I think the next big addiction we will hear about is 'money addiction'. I can't believe the Ken Lay types havn't insulted our collective intelligences by claiming they are victims of this addiction and had no control over what they were doing. It's coming folks.

I'll just leave this here.

So did Phillips answer the Ten Poop Questions at the press conference? No one cares about the rest of it, but we need to know his answers so the other thread can come full circle.

If Steve Phillips needs a job, maybe Bobby Valentine can hire him as a busboy at his restaurant.

I think the next big addiction we will hear about is 'money addiction'. I can't believe the Ken Lay types havn't insulted our collective intelligences by claiming they are victims of this addiction and had no control over what they were doing. It's coming folks.

Perfect. Even better is that the addiction industrial complex is being run by people who suffer from this addiction. They can't help themselves.

hard not to be cynical about Phillips, the addiction/recovery industry, television confessions, knee jerk bbtfers, etc, etc, etc..

and aren't all men addicted to sex to some degree? I'll tell you what, I think I'd rather die than have my prostate removed (another medical 'treatment' oversold, according to studies)

see some of you at the next bbtfa meeting.

Now, now, Steve, women aren't objects...

He treats objects like women, man!

see some of you at the next bbtfa meeting.

the 12 steps of bbtfa (with sincere apologies if i offend anybody)

1. We admitted we were powerless over bbtf - that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that a Poster greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our handle and our spreadsheets over to the care of the web administrator as we understood Him.

4. Made a searching and fearless statistical inventory of our value above replacement poster, adjusted for era.

5. Admitted to the web administrator, to ourselves and to another primate the exact nature of our snarky posts.

6. Were entirely ready to have the web administrator remove all these defects of typing.

7. Humbly asked Him to remove our off topic comments.

8. Made a list of all persons we were snarky to, and became willing to buy them cokes.

9. Bought cokes for such people wherever possible, except when to do so would ruin their diets.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it except when arguing with andy or david.

11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with the rally monkey as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other baseball fans and to leave normal people alone.

Though, the whole "plutonic" bit later in the column still confuses me...

Well, it was a bit of a stretch. Somebody had misspelled "platonic" in a lawsuit involving Bellichick, and I liked the word "plutonic." I think I didn't say this explicitly but it struck me as meaning "way, way out there. Like Pluto." The former planet, not the dog. Or Terry.

and aren't all men addicted to sex to some degree? I'll tell you what, I think I'd rather die than have my prostate removed

I think I'm addicted to continued existence no matter how limited, disabled, or feeble. I can't fathom suicide or euthanasia. I want to know what happens next even if it would mean not being able to bust a nut.

reread the whole excerpt above..the clinic plus the tv appearance are modern forms of penance and confession..I made mistakes, I take full responsibility, but I couldn't help myself..it's a religious ritual that really doesn't make sense and seems little more than a cover for hypocrisy and the status quo..esp in this case, the whole thing seems a charade.

otoh, the whole idea that we are completely free actors making choices is a fiction as well..you may be making all the 'right' choices in life, but many if not most of them are mere habits set long ago, not true choices. put yourself to the test and try to do even simple things a different way than you normally do them and notice the resistance. Then move onto just imagining doing things that you think are wrong..could you truly choose to do them, even come close to acting them out?

I'm not so impressed by people who deny themselves cookies as moral exemplars.

otoh, the whole idea that we are completely free actors making choices is a fiction as well..you may be making all the 'right' choices in life, but many if not most of them are mere habits set long ago, not true choices. put yourself to the test and try to do even simple things a different way than you normally do them and notice the resistance. Then move onto just imagining doing things that you think are wrong..could you truly choose to do them, even come close to acting them out?

One doesn't have to be "completely free" to be responsible for one's actions. Everyone faces temptations, not everyone acts on them.

Oh, sorry King - I got the plutonic part (I like it too) ... I was just confused about the lawsuit.

Everyone faces temptations, not everyone acts on them.

first, I'm not encouraging anyone to cheat, steal, or worse..in almost all circumstances, those are bad things. But no, not everyone faces temptation, and most of us are not free to make any other choice than we make most of the time..for instance, none of us are on the baseball groupie website with hot women blatantly competing to sleep with us, or have the money, time, opportunity or circumstance to do so.

I was unhappily married for 10 years and didn't come close to cheating not because I was moral but because I was frozen up inside..and even post-marriage with ample opportunity to sleep with a lot of women (some very attractive), I still don't do it..it almost never gets to the level of temptation or even a thought much less a fantasy, cos I've still got a mental block against it.

It's pretty horrifying to really see how much of what I have thought of as choice in my life is mere programming and conditioning..and how my minds like that partitioned hard drive of the porn addict on the other Phillips thread, how I roam free and wild in my head while still living a deeply conditioned life. it's always tempting to patch things back up and pretend again..

enough about my vain trailblazing, share your temptation stories.

I'm tempted to click on any thread that shows up with ghost of perros as the last post in the hopes of finding something akin to a trashy romance novel (and I say that in a strictly positive sense).

I usually give in.

I like it when people point out I'm more romance novelist than philosopher.

I work with a lot of women from nubile to ancient..and it's not just that young women are more attractive, it's that they'll tell you everything, from how one doesn't like to swallow, another likes to suck her husbands testicles, to a thirds frustration that her computer freezes while viewing rape porn so she can't get off..

definitely beats moralizing from my bosses about how young people don't respect authority and should have been beaten more as children.

What the hell is going on in here?

What the hell is going on in here?

Signed.

Also, I hate to see a child unbeaten. Can't we get a government program to ensure that every child gets the beatings they so desperately need to develop into contributing members of society?

alex

you ARE as romantic as any grrrrl fer SHER. and i can just hear you pull that stuff on the grrrls, they look at you, say, oh honey, you so sweeeeeeet, you so darling, cmere boy, lemme give you a hug. and once you get an, um, opening (ahem)...

when i was a teenager, my mama warned me - you got to be EXTRA careful of Old Guys because they think they are young guys and the older they get the better they pretend they listening and the smarter the lies...

i asked my uncle why Old Guys want younger females and he said - because yall ain't figgered out yet that you hate men

grrrrls tell you all that stuff because that way they can have sex (in their mind) without cheating on their own man. them telling you and you listening makes it "real"

my mama AND my brothers all warned me to never EVER discuss anything at ALL about sex (except for how bad your PMS is) with ANY man you work with unless you happen to want to have sex with him.

It's official: Steve Phillips is Binky.

ghost,

Have you changed your look on life since posting
#14 here:

I am having trouble reconciling your opinions now and then...