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Thursday, November 02, 2017

ESPN: Tony La Russa joins Red Sox front office

Dave Dombrowski has known Tony La Russa for nearly 40 years, since they worked together with the Chicago White Sox. Given the chance to reunite, Dombrowski created a front-office position for La Russa—vice president and special assistant to the president of baseball operations—in which the Hall of Fame manager will assist with player development and serve as a consultant to the major and minor league coaching staffs, including rookie manager Alex Cora…..Although La Russa was careful to say he won’t hover over Cora’s shoulder—“I’m going to be very sensitive to his position, is the best way to put it”—he described himself as a “resource” and is able to provide perspective on leadership and a winning dynamic in the clubhouse.

why do I get the feeling this may not end well?

also, in TFA,  the Sox hired Ron Roenicke (who managed Cora in the minors) to be bench coach

Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 02, 2017 at 08:16 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: a-hole, hypocrite, phony old school

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   1. ReggieThomasLives Posted: November 02, 2017 at 10:20 PM (#5570310)
Time for LaRussa to work his front office magic on the Red Sox. Does EVERYTHING have to go the Yankees way this year?
   2. PreservedFish Posted: November 02, 2017 at 10:32 PM (#5570320)
Although La Russa was careful to say he won’t hover over Cora’s shoulder—“I’m going to be very sensitive to his position, is the best way to put it”—he described himself as a “resource” and is able to provide perspective on leadership and a winning dynamic in the clubhouse.


Yuck.
   3. SoSH U at work Posted: November 02, 2017 at 11:45 PM (#5570336)
why do I get the feeling this may not end well?


Sounds OK to me. I wouldn't want him in a decision-making position, but he's surely got some strengths to offer, and these assignments would seem to play to them.

I mean, like most rational people, I can't stand the guy. But he's been undeniably successful over the course of most of his baseball career.
   4. Textbook Editor Posted: November 02, 2017 at 11:52 PM (#5570337)
I hate LaRussa.

This really sucks.

[goes back to staring out the window]
   5. phredbird Posted: November 02, 2017 at 11:55 PM (#5570339)
i like me some TLR as a manager, but i think it's a peter principle thing. my sense is, he is in over his head in a front office. the d-backs did not become world beaters with him in upper management. frankly, if this turns out well i'll be surprised.
   6. SoSH U at work Posted: November 03, 2017 at 12:01 AM (#5570340)
my sense is, he is in over his head in a front office. the d-backs did not become world beaters with him in upper management.


He's in over his head as a GM, that's for sure. This doesn't sound like that kind of position, but one that taps what have been his strengths (his skill as a manager is inarguable, and you can't really complain about the track record of player development during his tenure).
   7. Nero Wolfe, Indeed Posted: November 03, 2017 at 02:36 AM (#5570360)
He'll be fine when the Sox are in third place in early July, five games over .500 and management decides to make a change and move LaRussa downstairs into the dugout. I wonder if Cora would have taken this job had he known this hiring was about to happen?
   8. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: November 03, 2017 at 07:42 AM (#5570375)
People seem to be under the impression LaRussa is going to have a meaningful role. I expect him to be as critical to the decision making as Special Assistant Varitek is.
   9. villageidiom Posted: November 03, 2017 at 08:33 AM (#5570383)
I expect him to be as critical to the decision making as Special Assistant Varitek is.
This.
   10. asinwreck Posted: November 03, 2017 at 08:57 AM (#5570388)
Are John Boles and Roland Hemond coming on board too? They're putting the band back together!
   11. Nasty Nate Posted: November 03, 2017 at 09:07 AM (#5570391)
I thought it was odd for him to start over with a new franchise at his advanced age when he got the DBacks job. Now he is even older. Is he going to move to Boston for this, or just consult Dombrowski via phone from the West coasr?
   12. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: November 03, 2017 at 09:32 AM (#5570406)
Ruben Amaro to Mets as 1st base coach.

Nate - I'd be surprised if he moves but as you can tell from #8 I'm not of the opinion that this is a big deal.
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 03, 2017 at 09:38 AM (#5570410)
Does EVERYTHING have to go the Yankees way this year?

No, they stupidly fired Girardi.
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 03, 2017 at 10:59 AM (#5570480)
perspective on leadership and a winning dynamic in the clubhouse.

1. Hire Jose Canseco as "strength consultant."
2. Look other way.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!
   15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 03, 2017 at 12:35 PM (#5570592)
Well, it was a nice run while it lasted, Boston.
   16. Walt Davis Posted: November 03, 2017 at 05:10 PM (#5570782)
Unlike John Hart out on the golf course, LaRuss will be down at the bar like a special assistant to the president is supposed to be!
   17. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: November 03, 2017 at 05:21 PM (#5570789)
I am bookmarking this page. No edits to previous posts please.
   18. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 03, 2017 at 05:35 PM (#5570795)
If the Red Sox are doing fine, leading the division from wire to wire, having LaRussa around to tell stories is probably no problem. But if things go less well, having someone in a senior position whose job appears to be to kibitz other folks' areas of responsibility may not go over as well. Need quite a bit of tact for that, and I'm agnostic as to whether Tony is a good fit for that role.
   19. Stormy JE Posted: November 03, 2017 at 06:44 PM (#5570825)
People seem to be under the impression LaRussa is going to have a meaningful role. I expect him to be as critical to the decision making as Special Assistant Varitek is.
So then what's the ####### point? Doesn't he already receive a generous pension check every month?
   20. greenback is on a break Posted: November 03, 2017 at 07:13 PM (#5570832)
So then what's the ####### point?

As a Cardinals fan who watched him for 16 years, I'd guess it boils down to him being a baseball guy who doesn't want to deal with the travel and other hassles that come with a field position. He's got to do something baseball-related, partially because that's his identity and partially because his wife wants him out of the house for most of the spring and summer. He wants to be a GM still, and he probably recognizes that won't happen, but at the very least he wants some sort of recognition in front offices. This is basically the ballad of (the other) John Henry.

It occurs to that TLR probably had some twitching and grimacing when he realized Luhnow, the MBA whose only experience in baseball up to 15 years ago was in fantasy baseball, just won a World Series as a GM.
   21. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: November 03, 2017 at 10:31 PM (#5570872)
So then what's the ####### point? Doesn't he already receive a generous pension check every month?


I would assume the check the Red Sox will give him is for more money than his pension check and he gets to not be board sitting around the house. My father is 71 and retired and he has to keep busy or he’d go insane. I suspect guys like LaRussa or Zimmer or a bunch of other guys feel the same way. Stay active, stay involved, stay alive.

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