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Ex-Reds starting pitcher Kyle Lohse announces retirement

After 16 seasons in Major League Baseball, former Cincinnati Reds starting pitcher Kyle Lohse announced that he’s calling it quits after the Kansas City Royals released him on Thursday.

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 11, 2018 at 12:28 PM | 33 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 11, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5670856)
He is still better than Matt Harvey.
   2. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 11, 2018 at 01:29 PM (#5670860)
I guess the Brewers got their money's worth out of that seemingly ill-advised contract they gave him. Wouldn't have had a winning season in 2014 without him!
   3. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: May 11, 2018 at 01:34 PM (#5670868)
Kyle Lohse deserves a spot in the hall of average. 147-143 record, 96 ERA+ (dead average for a starter), and -2.8 WAA for his career.
   4. Batman Posted: May 11, 2018 at 01:36 PM (#5670871)
Lohse was once traded for Rick Aguilera, who pitched about four years longer than I remember.
   5. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: May 11, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5670924)
Lohse is also an ex-Twins, Phillies, Cardinals, Brewers, and Rangers pitcher. 16-3 for the Cardinals at the height of the period when anyone who took the mound for the Cardinals instantly became an All-Star, but I still remember him as a Twin.
   6. salvomania Posted: May 11, 2018 at 03:01 PM (#5670937)
He did a fine job in his five years as a Cardinal: 55-37 for the Birds, 92-108 for everyone else.

3.90 ERA/1.279 WHIP as a Cardinal, 4.64 ERA/1.376 WHIP for everyone else.

His two injury-marred seasons dragged down his overall numbers as a Cardinal, but in his three healthy seasons he was a very good pitcher, especially in his walk year, when he was in the Top 10 in pitching WAR. He was a guy who I didn't fret about when it was his turn in the rotation. I may not have gotten excited about him, but it wasn't a Mike Leake situtaion, where you're hoping the game's not over by the third inning...
   7. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 11, 2018 at 03:13 PM (#5670947)
I think #3 is spot on. The Brewers have had worse pitching contracts (including other ex-Cards).
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5670966)
Kyle Lohse was still around? Is this announcement one of those things where it's like the light that we see tonight from a star was actually sent out like 200 years ago?
   9. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 11, 2018 at 04:54 PM (#5671022)
Is this announcement one of those things where it's like the light that we see tonight from a star was actually sent out like 200 years ago?


He had been pitching with the Royals' AAA affiliate this year, and his release there is what prompted this retirement announcement.
   10. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: May 11, 2018 at 06:18 PM (#5671048)
One of the most widely read things I ever wrote for The Hardball Times was about Kyle Lohse.
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2018 at 08:08 PM (#5671079)
Is Lohse a lock to join Favre in the Reversed Letter Spotrs Hall of Fame?
   12. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: May 11, 2018 at 08:14 PM (#5671082)
And Dwyane Wade.
   13. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 11, 2018 at 08:58 PM (#5671090)
For some reason, my brain always wants to mix up Kyle Lohse and Brad Lidge. Don't ask me why. So I did a quick br check, just to double-check I was in fact thinking of the right guy.

Anyway, given that, I think it is only fitting I try and hijack this thread into a Brad Lidge thread. I noticed while on BR, that Lidge got MVP votes in 2 separate years. In one of them, he actually finished 8th, and had 2! first place votes. 2 separate people looked at Albert Pujols having a typical Pujols MVP season, and went 'Nah, I'ma vote for Brad Lidge.' That's just hilarious to me...

Though arguably, he had a better season than Ryan Howard, who finished second, so...
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: May 11, 2018 at 10:38 PM (#5671135)
Anyway, given that, I think it is only fitting I try and hijack this thread into a Brad Lidge thread. I noticed while on BR, that Lidge got MVP votes in 2 separate years. In one of them, he actually finished 8th, and had 2! first place votes. 2 separate people looked at Albert Pujols having a typical Pujols MVP season, and went 'Nah, I'ma vote for Brad Lidge.' That's just hilarious to me...


I'm fairly certain both of those were Philly voters. And a big part of that was his addition to the team.
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: May 11, 2018 at 10:41 PM (#5671136)
Dejong is a strikeout machine, but still a 9 pitch plate appearance is not a negative.
   16. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: May 11, 2018 at 11:05 PM (#5671146)
Lohse pitched with Jesse Orosco on the 2003 Twins, so you can do some impressive Oracle chains. I got him six degrees from Honus Wagner.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: May 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM (#5671148)
Nobody is commenting on the fact that he retired on twitter with a picture of him drinking a beer while watching the game?
   18. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 11, 2018 at 11:22 PM (#5671151)
For some reason, my brain always wants to mix up Kyle Lohse and Brad Lidge. Don't ask me why.


My brain seems to confuse names that have similar structure or patterns.

Both have a five letter last name, starts with L, ends with E. Four letter first name.
   19. escabeche Posted: May 12, 2018 at 06:22 AM (#5671184)
Is Lohse a lock to join Favre in the Reversed Letter Spotrs Hall of Fame?


I don't know about you guys but I always switch the m and the n in Antetokounmpo.

   20. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: May 12, 2018 at 06:57 AM (#5671187)
Fortunately he also has a unique first name so everyone just calls him Giannis.
   21. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 12, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5671248)
Nobody is commenting on the fact that he retired on twitter with a picture of him drinking a beer while watching the game?
Someday I hope to announce my retirement by posting a photo of me drinking a beer while someone else writes a brief for a summary judgment motion.
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: May 12, 2018 at 01:01 PM (#5671252)
For some reason, my brain always wants to mix up Kyle Lohse and Brad Lidge. Don't ask me why.


When I opened this thread yesterday I confused him with another former Brewer pitcher with the same number of letters in both his first and last names. I thought, "wasn't he an #######?" and then remembered that was Matt Garza.

   23. The Duke Posted: May 12, 2018 at 02:53 PM (#5671286)
Lohse had some very good years for the Cards. Looks like he was replacement level everywhere else but he turned in some nice games for the Redbirds. I think he some oddball arm injury from getting hit on a shot up the middle which gave him a lot of trouble
   24. Walt Davis Posted: May 12, 2018 at 05:22 PM (#5671311)
I can't keep Kyle Lohse and Mike Leake straight ... and I'm perfectly capable of confusing either one with Lance Lynn. I noticed the other day that Mike Minor and Matt Moore are on the same team now, I can't decide if that's to my advantage or not.
   25. Obo Posted: May 12, 2018 at 06:17 PM (#5671325)
I get him mixed up with Lhotse.
   26. vortex of dissipation Posted: May 12, 2018 at 10:11 PM (#5671385)
Anyway, given that, I think it is only fitting I try and hijack this thread into a Brad Lidge thread. I noticed while on BR, that Lidge got MVP votes in 2 separate years. In one of them, he actually finished 8th, and had 2! first place votes. 2 separate people looked at Albert Pujols having a typical Pujols MVP season, and went 'Nah, I'ma vote for Brad Lidge.' That's just hilarious to me...


In 1947, Ted Williams won the Triple Crown, and Joe DiMaggio had a typical Joe DiMaggio year for a pennant winning Yankees team, which earned him the MVP. Eddie Joost hit .206 with 13 HR for the fifth place Athletics. He got two first place MVP votes.
   27. PreservedFish Posted: May 12, 2018 at 10:16 PM (#5671387)
Yeah but how many walks? Probably like 150. No, I'm not going to google it.
   28. Howie Menckel Posted: May 12, 2018 at 10:41 PM (#5671390)
I get Lackey and Lester, the Cubs pitchers, confused
#dearjo(h)n
   29. vortex of dissipation Posted: May 12, 2018 at 10:50 PM (#5671393)
Yeah but how many walks? Probably like 150. No, I'm not going to google it.


114, which got his OPS+ all the way up to 88.
   30. Rennie's Tenet Posted: May 12, 2018 at 10:52 PM (#5671394)
I confuse Lohse with Latos.
   31. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 12, 2018 at 11:01 PM (#5671395)
I just figured out that Will Arnett and Will Forte are two different guys.
   32. RMc Has Bizarre Ideas to Fix Baseball Posted: May 13, 2018 at 07:51 AM (#5671460)
It's tough to pitch that long and be that ordinary. Of the 250 pitchers with at least 2,500 IP, Lohse's ERA+ on 96 ranks 241st. (19th-century pitcher Bert Cunningham was the worst at 91.)
   33. stealfirstbase Posted: May 13, 2018 at 11:45 PM (#5671679)
My brain seems to confuse names that have similar structure or patterns.

Both have a five letter last name, starts with L, ends with E. Four letter first name.


Me too, in a big way. Sucks when someone tells you their name and it's strikingly similar to one you already know.

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