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Monday, May 13, 2019

Examining Félix Hernández’s Hall of Fame case after 2,500 strikeouts

Seattle Mariners starter Félix Hernández joined elite company on Saturday when he reached 2,500 career strikeouts. Among the 35 other players to do so, 22 are in the Hall of Fame and five more — Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, Justin Verlander, CC Sabathia and Max Scherzer — likely to join them before long.

Even more impressively, Hernández is the sixth youngest player to do so at 33 years at 33 days old. That only trails Hall of Famers Nolan Ryan, Walter Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Tom Seaver and Bert Blyleven.

But one day after reaching the milestone, Hernández landed on the 10-day injured list with a right shoulder strain. That’s the way things have been going lately for the one-time Cy Young Award winner.

Once considered a surefire lock for the Hall of Fame, Hernández’s career has rapidly regressed, and he’s likely on the outside looking in for Cooperstown.

A consideration of Felix Hernandez’s chance at the Hall of Fame- nothing that will be news to us, but still something to talk amongst ourselves about.

QLE Posted: May 13, 2019 at 03:43 AM | 43 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: May 13, 2019 at 06:42 AM (#5841415)
No. And he's not close.
   2. TomH Posted: May 13, 2019 at 07:09 AM (#5841416)
Ha ha ha.
Sure, Felix will get in per his ##s today.
After Schilling, Clemens, Pettite, Johan Santana, Verlander, Kershaw, Scherzer, Greinke, Sabathia, Sale, Luis Tiant, and a bunch of others.
Now, if he has two more great seasons...
   3. Qufini Posted: May 13, 2019 at 08:02 AM (#5841418)
2500 strikeouts is pretty cool but it doesn't cement a Hall of Fame case on its own. King Felix is still looking up at several non-HoFers on the list: Lolich, Tanana, Cone, Finley, Koosman, Vazquez, Colon and Burnett. Plus, he'll get passed by several other pitchers who have better HoF cases (Greinke, Hamels, Kershaw).
   4. Spahn Insane Posted: May 13, 2019 at 09:14 AM (#5841424)
surefire lock

As opposed to the other kind.
   5. PreservedFish Posted: May 13, 2019 at 09:52 AM (#5841433)
I didn't know it before I just now looked it up, but "surefire" was originally applied to guns, which in the mid 19th century generally weren't sure to fire every time.

From the Sudbury American, 1856:

Thereupon, he drew a revolver, and assuring them that it was well loaded and a sure fire, told the man at the door, in a very cool and deliberate manner... he would blow his brains out forthwith.


A "lock" is also part of a gun, in fact it's the part of the gun that fires and makes the bullet do its thing, so a "surefire lock" might even have been a thing.
   6. Zonk is not as Outlandish as he could be Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:28 PM (#5841508)
I think it's pretty cool that Felix has a case full of HoF memorabilia.... Wait... what? That's not what this about?
   7. GGC Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:06 PM (#5841529)
£
   8. GGC Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:10 PM (#5841530)
I was listening to the Red Sox broadcast on Saturday and Joe Castiglione made it sound like King Felix may've pitched his last game at Fenway. I know that he's on the IL but is he toast?
   9. Ithaca2323 Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:38 PM (#5841562)
He's Santana-lite
   10. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:46 PM (#5841565)
I was listening to the Red Sox broadcast on Saturday and Joe Castiglione made it sound like King Felix may've pitched his last game at Fenway. I know that he's on the IL but is he toast?


Well, the Mariners aren't coming back to Fenway this year, he's a FA after this season, and given his dreadful performance this year and last (71 ERA+, -1.5 WAR), it's doubtful anyone is going to sign him.
   11. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:27 PM (#5841590)
It's a sad thing, really. A King Felix start used to be a thing of beauty. He's not a hall of famer, but damn if he didn't have his moments.
   12. GGC Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5841605)
Thanks, Misirlou. As I get older, I am turning into a low information fan. Too many other things are going on in my life.
   13. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: May 13, 2019 at 03:33 PM (#5841617)
Felix had 50 WAR by age 29, similar to Wes Ferrell, who immediately dropped off the table afterwards. (Wes was also a head case who tended to do things like punch himself in the face, which didn't help.)

Here are the 15 pitchers with 50 WAR by age 29 since 1900. All who are eligible for the HOF (except Ferrell) are in.
   14. Itchy Row Posted: May 13, 2019 at 03:43 PM (#5841619)
All who are eligible for the HOF (except Ferrell) are in.
Clemens too.
   15. GGC Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5841627)
Wes was also a head case who tended to do things like punch himself in the face


I can relate. I do this when I am frustrated with myself; usually while looking at the bank account or paying bills.
   16. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: May 13, 2019 at 05:09 PM (#5841664)
Here are the 15 pitchers with 50 WAR by age 29 since 1900. All who are eligible for the HOF (except Ferrell) are in.


Now list all eligible pitchers with 50 WAR who are not in. I'll bet that list is significantly longer.

edit: Ok, there are 41 players who are retired, have 50+ career WAR, and are not in the HOF. One is Clemens, 2 are currently on the ballot, and 2 are not eligible yet, leaving 36. But Felix has a high peak and some hardware. So do Cone, Saberhagen, Santana and Hersheiser. High peak pitchers without the hardware, but at least 5 more career WAR are Kevin Brown, Rick Reuschel, Chuck Finley, Luis Tiant, Tim Hudson, Kevin Appier, Dave Steib, and Frank Tanana.
   17. Itchy Row Posted: May 13, 2019 at 05:17 PM (#5841669)
Now list all eligible pitchers with 50 WAR who are not in. I'll bet that list is significantly longer.
There are 29 pitchers with 50+ WAR since 1901 who have been on the ballot and aren't in. Nine others haven't been on a ballot yet.
   18. Davo Posted: May 13, 2019 at 05:33 PM (#5841676)
Yeah obvs in. A ~10-year run where he was one of the ~5 best pitchers in baseball. That’s always been a Hall of Fame resume, and the fact that he did it in the 21st century (and suffered shitty counting numbers as a result) shouldn’t be held against him.
   19. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: May 13, 2019 at 05:34 PM (#5841677)
David Cone vs Felix:

Cone: 61.6 career WAR. Top 3 seasons of 7.0, 6.9 (strike year), 6.7. 1 CYA. 2668 K ( remember, the HOF discussion began with the citation of Felix's 2500th K). 3.9% his one and only time on the ballot.

Felix: 50.4 career WAER. Top 3 7.2, 6.4, 5.9. 1 CUA. 2501 K.

Cone has 25 more wins and fewer losses.
   20. Sweatpants Posted: May 13, 2019 at 05:53 PM (#5841688)
A ~10-year run where he was one of the ~5 best pitchers in baseball.
Is this true? I'd say that it's hard to call any of his pre-2009 seasons great, and it's hard to call anything after 2014 great. That's a run of six seasons, and not all six were great seasons.
That’s always been a Hall of Fame resume
And is this true? Wes Ferrell and Johan Santana have already been listed as players who accomplished something similar and failed to make it.
the fact that he did it in the 21st century (and suffered shitty counting numbers as a result) shouldn’t be held against him.
It could just as easily be said that he benefited from playing in a pitcher's park in a low-offense era in which less was being asked of starting pitchers. From 2011-2013 he posted a 3.20 ERA, but that was good for only a 117 ERA+. I'm not sure if I'd call that the stuff of greatness.
   21. PreservedFish Posted: May 13, 2019 at 06:00 PM (#5841691)
His PF WAG is 10.5. For reference:


Halladay: 24.7
Koufax: 22.6
Verlander: 16.9
J Santana: 16.4
Oswalt: 12.2
C Lee: 10.8
Pettitte: 8.8
D Price: 8.2
Lincecum: 7.2

I thought he'd be higher.

If PF WAG was a real thing I assume I'd draw the border somewhere around ~15.

   22. The Honorable Ardo Posted: May 13, 2019 at 06:24 PM (#5841698)
If Felix were to retire today, his career statistics would be very comparable to, but slightly worse, than Dave Stieb. (Stieb's defenses were below average, and Felix's above average, so the gap in RA+ is misleadingly small.)

Stieb is in the Hall of Merit, but I wouldn't support Hernandez's candidacy.
   23. Zonk is not as Outlandish as he could be Posted: May 13, 2019 at 06:27 PM (#5841700)
The peak case just isn't peaky enough.

Santana has a better peak case than Felix..

For the HoF - I think WAA is a better measure than WAR if you want a metric. Felix has never had a 5 WAA season. Santana had 4. Even Lincecum had 2.

His problem - to me anyway - is that I don't know that he actually does have a peak case... It's almost more of a tweener.

EDIT: Stieb had 2.... 5 is kind of arbitrary, of course - one could say 4 or even 4.5 and it looks different. I'm just saying his peak case just doesn't seem all that peaky. It's more "in the team photo for 'best' in a string of seasons", but those seasons were somewhat meh for purposes of 'best' in a season.
   24. Davo Posted: May 13, 2019 at 06:32 PM (#5841702)
20- Mine is more a general observation rather than a specific one.

There are a thousand different forces that have made starting pitching incredibly incredibly hard over the last 20-30 years. They pitch fewer seasons and pitch fewer innings in those seasons. Our standards for what makes a for a Hall of Fame career for a starting pitcher have to adjust to the new reality....or otherwise we’re gonna be stuck with the absurdity of believing there were only like 3 Hall of Fame starters in the 2010s.

“Were you an ace for a decade?” seems a fair place to start. It gets Félix and Greinke and Sabathia and Lester and Hamels and Scherzer and Hudson into the group with the no-doubters (Verlander and Kershaw).

I acknowledge I am a very Big Hall voter!
   25. Walt Davis Posted: May 13, 2019 at 06:52 PM (#5841706)
Yeah, SPs face a high HoF standard ... maybe finally lowering in the current era. They generally had to have great peaks and long careers. Even in the 60s-70s it took a good while to get to 250 wins. There are exceptions of course (Hunter, Dean) but if you want in on pitcher peak alone, it ... OK, it probably doesn't have to be Koufax/Pedro but you needed some serious hardware and dominance. Halladay's easy election probably shows things are loosening up (or he could be a special case due to his death).

I've opined before that Verlander is a lock (I was saying this a while ago) and that Scherzer probably is too (or close). Part of my argument is there just won't be SPs with impressive career totals to vote for so a Halladay-esque run of excellence with some hardware will make a guy the best SP on the ballot.

Felix doesn't have that level of dominance -- "just" one CYA, solid but not excellent black ink, never pulled off one of those seasons where he led in everything and now badly limping to the finish. He might get a couple of years on his own on the ballot but he won't get in and then Lester, Greinke, Verlander, etc. start to show up. At the start of the year, if I had to bet on which would make the HoF, I would have put money on Kluber over Felix -- Kluber's injury probably derails the small chance he had.

Some black ink numbers:

Kershaw 65 (16th all-time)
Scherzer 59 (20th)
Verlander 58 (t21)

For comparison: Pedro 58, Seaver 57, Dean 52, Halladay 48. Kluber is at 34 (less than Santana), Price at 32, Felix at 28 (t61). CC is down at just 22, Lester only 8.

Biggest surprise given his rep is probably Gibson at 20 points of black ink. He led in ERA only that once ... wins once, strikeouts once and IP never.
   26. GGC Posted: May 13, 2019 at 06:53 PM (#5841707)
Great to see a PF Wag reference.
   27. Sweatpants Posted: May 13, 2019 at 07:03 PM (#5841712)
20- Mine is more a general observation rather than a specific one.

There are a thousand different forces that have made starting pitching incredibly incredibly hard over the last 20-30 years. They pitch fewer seasons and pitch fewer innings in those seasons. Our standards for what makes a for a Hall of Fame career for a starting pitcher have to adjust to the new reality....or otherwise we’re gonna be stuck with the absurdity of believing there were only like 3 Hall of Fame starters in the 2010s.

“Were you an ace for a decade?” seems a fair place to start. It gets Félix and Greinke and Sabathia and Lester and Hamels and Scherzer and Hudson into the group with the no-doubters (Verlander and Kershaw).

I acknowledge I am a very Big Hall voter!
Hernandez: 2696.2 IP, 118 ERA+
Greinke: 2720.1 IP, 124 ERA+
Sabathia: 3500.1 IP, 117 ERA+
Lester: 2404.2 IP, 123 ERA+
Hamels: 2602.2 IP, 124 ERA+ (I would not have guessed that he was only 90 IP behind Hernandez)
Scherzer: 2177 IP, 130 ERA+
Hudson: 3126.2 IP, 120 ERA+

My point was less about the modern starting pitcher and more about the fact that I've always felt that Hernandez was a bit overrated in his own time. All of the guys you listed have (okay, arguably) been more effective per inning than Hernandez, with the exception of Sabathia, who's pitched some four more seasons' worth of innings. Tim Hudson, to the best of my recollection, hasn't gotten much Hall of Fame talk, and it seems like you'd have some work to do to explain why Hernandez was the better of the two.

Scherzer feels like he belongs in the Verlander/Kershaw group, by the way.
   28. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: May 13, 2019 at 07:54 PM (#5841724)
Scherzer feels like he belongs in the Verlander/Kershaw group, by the way.


Scherzer is a no doubter.
   29. PreservedFish Posted: May 13, 2019 at 08:09 PM (#5841729)
Scherzer has a PF WAG of 17.6, already above Johan Santana and still going strong. I think he's an easy choice today and may just add to the case.

CC is at 10.9, roughly the same neighborhood as Cliff Lee and Felix Hernandez and Roy Oswalt. Hudson 9.7. Hamels 8.8
   30. DanG Posted: May 13, 2019 at 09:42 PM (#5841750)
Similar pitchers to King Felix. Within 7.5 WAR, 7 ERA+ and 350 IP, in the past 105 years.

Player           WAR ERA+     IP   W   L From   To
Cole Hamels     57.0  124 2602.2 159 114 2006 2019
Dave Stieb      56.5  122 2895.1 176 137 1979 1998
Kevin Appier    54.9  121 2595.1 169 137 1989 2004
Urban Shocker   54.5  124 2681.2 187 117 1916 1928
Wilbur Wood     52.1  114 2684.0 164 156 1961 1978
Felix Hernandez 50.6  118 2696.2 169 132 2005 2019
Eddie Rommel    50.3  121 2557.0 171 119 1920 1932
Jimmy Key       49.0  122 2591.2 186 117 1984 1998
Wes Ferrell     48.9  116 2623.0 193 128 1927 1941
Dwight Gooden   48.1  111 2800.2 194 112 1984 2000
Ron Guidry      47.8  119 2392.0 170  91 1975 1988
Frank Viola     47.1  112 2836.1 176 150 1982 1996
Jon Lester      46.5  123 2404.2 180  99 2006 2019
Bob Shawkey     46.2  114 2937.0 195 150 1913 1927
Brad Radke      45.6  113 2451.0 148 139 1995 2006
Dizzy Trout     45.3  124 2725.2 170 161 1939 1957
Steve Rogers    45.1  116 2837.2 158 152 1973 1985
Carl Mays       43.5  119 3021.1 207 126 1915 1929
Claude Passeau  43.3  113 2719.2 162 150 1935 1947
Sam McDowell    43.1  112 2492.1 141 134 1961 1975
Lefty Gomez     43.1  125 2503.0 189 102 1930 1943 

Only one of these (Gomez) is in the Hall of Fame. Two of them (Stieb & Ferrell) are in the Hall of Merit.
   31. caspian88 Posted: May 13, 2019 at 09:52 PM (#5841752)
One of the things I have tested (in preparation for Hall of Merit voting) is to adjust pitchers WAR based on what share of innings an "ace" pitches in any particular year (basically the IP totals of the top N number of pitchers divided by total IP, where N is the number of teams in the league, gives me the season's figure, which I then divide by a historically "normal" value, currently .19). This allows me to correct for 19th century pitcher's and modern pitcher's usage patterns (though I think this will overstate modern starters value).

The result for the most modern pitchers is that Grienke, Verlander, and Scherzer are pretty clearly HOF/HOM pitchers, while Hernandez is sitting outside the top 60, around guys like Dizzy Trout and Andy Pettitte. His peak case is just too small when combined with his relatively low (for a Hall starter) career WAR.
   32. Davo Posted: May 13, 2019 at 10:01 PM (#5841753)
27-I get where you’re coming from. We are simpatico!
   33. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 13, 2019 at 10:45 PM (#5841764)
Felix had 50 WAR by age 29, similar to Wes Ferrell, who immediately dropped off the table afterwards. (Wes was also a head case who tended to do things like punch himself in the face, which didn't help.)

The interesting thing about Ferrell (in addition to all those songs he wrote for the Partridge Family!) is how much value he got from his bat. He finished with 48.9 pitching WAR (Baseball-Reference) after peaking at 50.8 (his last 4 years were bad), but he added another 11.8 WAR with his bat, pushing him across the 60 WAR threshold that's often regarded as the HOF borderline. The guy hit .280/.351/.446 for his career, good for a solid 100 OPS+.

And yet it's his brother who's in the Hall of Fame.
   34. DanG Posted: May 13, 2019 at 11:18 PM (#5841767)
In his prime, 2009-14, only Kershaw was better than Felix:

Player            WAR WAAERAOPS+   W  L     IP   Age   SO
Clayton Kershaw  39.1 29.1  160   61  93 44 1270.2 21
-26 1345
Felix Hernandez  33.5 20.5  141   73  86 56 1394.1 23
-28 1358
Justin Verlander 31.8 19.0  128   75 106 55 1378.0 26
-31 1353
Cliff Lee        31.0 20.9  133   80  67 52 1191.2 30
-35 1105
Cole Hamels      29.1 19.1  123   86  70 60 1258.1 25
-30 1189
Zack Greinke     27.6 17.0  125   84  89 45 1213.1 25
-30 1179
Jered Weaver     26.3 14.8  124   81  96 50 1227.1 26
-31 1033
Adam Wainwright  25.6 16.6  135   77  92 50 1130.2 27
-32 1007 
   35. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 14, 2019 at 11:34 AM (#5841857)
Hernandez: 2696.2 IP, 118 ERA+
Greinke: 2720.1 IP, 124 ERA+
Sabathia: 3500.1 IP, 117 ERA+
Lester: 2404.2 IP, 123 ERA+
Hamels: 2602.2 IP, 124 ERA+ (I would not have guessed that he was only 90 IP behind Hernandez)
Scherzer: 2177 IP, 130 ERA+
Hudson: 3126.2 IP, 120 ERA+


I don't think he's a HOFer, but this undersells King Felix a bit. He was at 2502 IP, 125 ERA+ and then has been below replacement to the tune of a 71 ERA+ since then.
   36. DanG Posted: May 14, 2019 at 01:35 PM (#5841913)
Similar pitchers to King Felix in their first 12 seasons. Within 6 WAR, 7 ERA+ and 300 IP.

Player            WAR ERA+     IP   W   L From   To   Age
Dave Stieb       55.3  126 2666.2 166 123 1979 1990 21
-32
Max Scherzer     54.5  130 2177.0 161  86 2008 2019 23
-34
Urban Shocker    54.4  124 2679.2 187 117 1916 1927 25
-36
CC Sabathia      53.1  125 2564.1 191 102 2001 2012 20
-31
Sandy Koufax     53.1  131 2324.1 165  87 1955 1966 19
-30
Bret Saberhagen  52.4  126 2227.2 141 100 1984 1995 20
-31
Cole Hamels      51.9  124 2362.1 147 102 2006 2017 22
-33
David Cone       51.8  129 2189.0 148  86 1986 1997 23
-34
Felix Hernandez  51.4  126 2415.2 154 109 2005 2016 19
-30
Justin Verlander 51.0  123 2339.0 173 106 2005 2016 22
-33
Roy Oswalt       50.9  130 2213.0 163  96 2001 2012 23
-34
Eddie Rommel     50.1  123 2491.2 170 117 1920 1931 22
-33
Tim Hudson       49.9  127 2288.1 165  87 1999 2010 23
-34
Luis Tiant       49.0  119 2387.1 158 120 1964 1975 23
-34
Mark Buehrle     48.9  120 2476.2 161 119 2000 2011 21
-32
Phil Niekro      46.0  126 2491.2 145 122 1964 1975 25
-36
Kevin Brown      45.4  125 2178.1 139  99 1986 1998 21
-33 
   37. PreservedFish Posted: May 14, 2019 at 01:45 PM (#5841917)
That's basically the Hall of Merit but not Hall of Fame line - exactly the ground that large/small Hall debates are fought over.
   38. Sweatpants Posted: May 14, 2019 at 03:32 PM (#5841952)
I don't think he's a HOFer, but this undersells King Felix a bit. He was at 2502 IP, 125 ERA+ and then has been below replacement to the tune of a 71 ERA+ since then.
True, but even then his numbers were slightly better than where Lester's are now and about equal to Hamels', neither of whom is in hit-by-a-bus territory right now. Both of them appear to be adding to their legacies. Hernandez looks like he might not have much left to offer, although Sabathia looked like he was done a few years back and has rebounded nicely.
   39. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 14, 2019 at 04:28 PM (#5841978)

True, but even then his numbers were slightly better than where Lester's are now and about equal to Hamels', neither of whom is in hit-by-a-bus territory right now.

Yep, that's why I said he wasn't a HOFer, just that he was better than his career line.

That's basically the Hall of Merit but not Hall of Fame line - exactly the ground that large/small Hall debates are fought over.

I don't really know which ones are in the HOM and which aren't, but a number of those guys put up (or will put up) more value past their 12th season. I think all the ones who are or will be in the HOF did, with the exception of Koufax.
   40. Walt Davis Posted: May 14, 2019 at 05:27 PM (#5842004)
Scherzer would be an interesting real-life bus case. He's still well below 200 wins, just under 2200 innings. Would current voters be able to look past that to the 3 CYAs, black ink, etc. That's Dizzy Dean territory.
   41. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: May 14, 2019 at 08:14 PM (#5842052)
Scherzer would be an interesting real-life bus case. He's still well below 200 wins, just under 2200 innings. Would current voters be able to look past that to the 3 CYAs, black ink, etc. That's Dizzy Dean territory.


I know we us hit by a bus as shorthand for suddenly adding no more value, but for HOF purposes, I think it matters how that comes about. If he were to suddenly go out like Dean or Koufax or Joss, I think he gets a fair amount of "What could have been" votes, and he gets in. If he goes out like Felix or Lincecum, and just suddenly loses it, maybe not. But then that depends on how one defines suddenly losing it. Felix didn't go from HOF quality to worthless overnight. Felix went from a 170 ERA+ to 3 seasons between 108 and 96, then to useless. And in those 3 interim years, put up 35 wins and 6.6 WAR. Lincecum was more dramatic, but still recorded 43 wins in his useless years. Either scenario would put Scherzer over 200 wins and give the voters cover to reward his peak/prime.
   42. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: May 14, 2019 at 11:16 PM (#5842153)
Y'know, I'm late to the party on this, but my first thought on reading this headline was, "Really? Felix only has 2,500 strikeouts? Wow."

My second thought was: He'll probably pass Christy Mathewson at 2,507 his next start; that would have put him 4th all time (behind Walter, Warren, and Feller) as recently as the 1960s. Man, has baseball changed.

My third thought was: Wait a second--The 1960s were closer to Christy Mathewson than to today. ####, we are all of us old.
   43. DanG Posted: May 15, 2019 at 12:01 PM (#5842297)
Strikeout leaders through 1968:

Player              SO  SO9    KERA+     IP From   To
Walter Johnson    3509 5.34 15.0
%  147 5914.1 1907 1927
Cy Young          2803 3.43  9.5
%  138 7356.0 1890 1911
Warren Spahn      2583 4.43 12.0
%  119 5243.2 1942 1965
Bob Feller        2581 6.07 16.0
%  122 3827.0 1936 1956
Tim Keefe         2564 4.57 12.2
%  126 5049.2 1880 1893
Christy Mathewson 2507 4.71 13.3
%  136 4788.2 1900 1916
Jim Bunning       2493 6.97 18.7
%  121 3219.0 1955 1968
Don Drysdale      2462 6.58 17.8
%  122 3369.1 1956 1968
Sandy Koufax      2396 9.28 25.2
%  131 2324.1 1955 1966
Robin Roberts     2357 4.52 12.3
%  113 4688.2 1948 1966 

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