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Tuesday, March 18, 2014

FAA to Washington: No Drones

The Washington Nationals were told last month by the Federal Aviation Administration to stop using a small, four-rotor drone to take publicity photos at the team’s spring training facility without the agency’s permission.

“No, we didn’t get it cleared, but we don’t get our pop flies cleared either and those go higher than this thing did,’’ a team official told The Associated Press. The drone flights ceased the next day.

Overregulation.

The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 18, 2014 at 07:42 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: overkill, washington nationals

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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: March 18, 2014 at 10:07 PM (#4673676)
The NSA doesn't want to jockey for airspace.
   2. ptodd Posted: March 18, 2014 at 11:10 PM (#4673694)
Big Brother says stop, you gotta a stop. They want a monopoly on the Drones
   3. pthomas Posted: March 18, 2014 at 11:59 PM (#4673709)
It's all fun and games til someone takes it to DC and plays around in the restricted airspace around the Capitol and all hell breaks loose. Or until someone hits a Cessna.
   4. winnipegwhip Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:35 AM (#4673726)
Have an official FAA day at the ballpark to salute them. Instead of the Presidents Race they should have giant heads of Amelia Earhart, D.B. Cooper and the pilots of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 race at Nats Park.
   5. Jeff Frances the Mute Posted: March 19, 2014 at 02:39 AM (#4673732)
Have an official FAA day at the ballpark to salute them. Instead of the Presidents Race they should have giant heads of Amelia Earhart, D.B. Cooper and the pilots of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 race at Nats Park.


No Mohammed Atta?!!?
   6. Dale Sams Posted: March 19, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4673780)
Today's kite-flying contest has been shut down by the NSA and the organizers whisked off to an undisclosed location.
   7. morineko Posted: March 19, 2014 at 08:59 AM (#4673791)
But nobody's saying anything about RC planes, right? They could do that?
   8. shoelesjoe Posted: March 19, 2014 at 09:56 AM (#4673836)
The Nats ownership should have told the FAA to #$@&# themselves sideways.
   9. Russ Posted: March 19, 2014 at 09:59 AM (#4673839)
No Mohammed Atta?!!?


Argument is all peak, career is too short.
   10. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 19, 2014 at 10:09 AM (#4673848)
I thought this would be a threat about Tuvan throat-singing. A 7th-inning kargyraa would be awesome.
   11. winnipegwhip Posted: March 19, 2014 at 12:17 PM (#4673964)
No Mohammed Atta?!!?


I was afraid of the backlash of mentioning him. The jury is still out on the pilots of 370 and the timeliness of them made them appropriate for the comment. #9 is good though.
   12. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 19, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4673986)
The jury is still out on the pilots of 370 and the timeliness of them made them appropriate for the comment.


As far as I am concerned, with the amount of coverage that plane has gotten we are well past the time for sensitivity.
   13. Knock on any Iorg Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:01 PM (#4673996)
I'm amazed how every one of these drones has zero protection around its blades. Imagine an unskilled (or beer-drunk) pilot commands one of these things to take off, it veers sideways into the faces of bystanders leaving a bloody mess. It's borderline criminal to be flying one at a baseball stadium with thousands of people as potential targets. Scary.
   14. Bitter Mouse Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:06 PM (#4674001)
Serious question, where does "Drone" stop and "RC" start? Because RC flying things have been around and essentially unregulated forever, at sporting events even.
   15. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:08 PM (#4674002)
I'm amazed how every one of these drones has zero protection around its blades. Imagine an unskilled (or beer-drunk) pilot commands one of these things to take off, it veers sideways into the faces of bystanders leaving a bloody mess. It's borderline criminal to be flying one at a baseball stadium with thousands of people as potential targets.


Shea Stadium, 1979
   16. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:16 PM (#4674008)
Didn't a kid die recently after getting hit by his RC helicopter?
   17. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4674009)
True story.. we took our 4 year old camping for his birthday on Saturday night (that's what the kiddo wanted) at a local regional park and someone was flying a drone out there.
   18. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:23 PM (#4674012)
They want a monopoly on the Drones


The heavy hand of the state notwithstanding, you probably want them having a monopoly on drones too. Not that they will. Drones are on the verge of being mainstream tech that anyone can release at will. It will devolve security of person across the globe (though mostly in strong nation states; security in the rest of the world is already shot through with drone menace.)

Serious question, where does "Drone" stop and "RC" start?


Total WAG, but: controlling system. An "RC" flyer is controlled via radio waves from a handheld device that must be within X meters of the flyer. A "drone" is controlled by a detached computer that does not require proximity to broadcast low frequency radio waves.
   19. Chone Mueller Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:28 PM (#4674015)
When Jason Isringhausen was pitching for the A's, he sometimes came out early to fly his RC planes in the Oakland Coliseum. The outfield provided a huge landing strip.
   20. Swedish Chef Posted: March 19, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4674018)
Serious question, where does "Drone" stop and "RC" start?

The big differentiator is if the operator needs a line of sight. Also, drones can be entirely autonomous.

But there is no difference legally right now, they fall under the same rules and all the rules have been for hobbyists, making commercial use iffy. There will be a new set of rules for drones, but it's tangled up in bureaucracy.
   21. Knock on any Iorg Posted: March 19, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4674055)
You've got drones, we've got shotguns.
   22. Shredder Posted: March 19, 2014 at 02:21 PM (#4674063)
Serious question, where does "Drone" stop and "RC" start? Because RC flying things have been around and essentially unregulated forever, at sporting events even.
Yeah, I've wondered that as well. In my vocabularly, "drone" has always been something that basically ran itself, like a roomba vacuum cleaner. You turn it on and leave it. No operator required. The media has basically just started using the term to refer to everything without a pilot/driver/etc. on board, even if there is someone actually controlling it.
   23. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: March 19, 2014 at 03:04 PM (#4674097)
True story.. we took our 4 year old camping for his birthday on Saturday night (that's what the kiddo wanted) at a local regional park and someone was flying a drone out there.


Not mentioned: you live in Pakistan.
   24. spike Posted: March 19, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4674099)
I'm heading there in a couple of weeks. Hopefully they'll be out of season or something.
   25. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: March 19, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4674104)
Instead of the Presidents Race they should have giant heads of Amelia Earhart, D.B. Cooper and the pilots of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 race at Nats Park


How about Wi Tu Lo?
   26. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: March 19, 2014 at 03:26 PM (#4674105)
Not mentioned: you live in Pakistan.


It would make things better if I didn't live in Southern CA!

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