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Thursday, April 05, 2018

Facebook Broadcast of Mets Game Runs Into Glitches and Complaints

The Mets-Phillies game was the first of the 25 games set to be aired on Facebook — one per week — and the early feedback was largely negative. Fans quickly voiced their displeasure with the newfangled broadcast and its glitches, and not just because they couldn’t watch their teams as they normally would: the Mets on SportsNet New York and the Phillies on Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia.

Bored Posted: April 05, 2018 at 11:21 AM | 43 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 05, 2018 at 12:43 PM (#5648627)
Those overlays are ####-ugly. I don't blame people for being upset.
   2. Swoboda is freedom Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:01 PM (#5648641)
My feed was so slow and I couldn't get rid of the comments. I was watching still pictures that changed every 5 seconds. Tried for about 5 minutes before giving up.
   3. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:06 PM (#5648644)
!!!THE FUTURE IS HERE!!!
   4. Batman Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:22 PM (#5648656)
"Glitches and Complaints" is both the Met fight song and the content of my Facebook feed.
   5. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:24 PM (#5648659)
What's the reasoning behind making a game accessible only on Facebook?
   6. catomi01 Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:30 PM (#5648664)
What's the reasoning behind making a game accessible only on Facebook?


Presumably - facebook gave MLB a bunch of money.
   7. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:31 PM (#5648665)
What's the reasoning behind making a game accessible only on Facebook?


People under the age of 30 something, prefer, for reasons I'll never understand, to watch lots of video on hand held devices, and among others, Facebook, is a medium to provide the content.

w/o the exclusivity (kind of like the old draconian NFL black out rule which they basically ignored eventually) its going to be hard to build up the platform (streaming games on social media platforms).
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:33 PM (#5648667)
What's the reasoning behind making a game accessible only on Facebook?
Same reasoning behind any exclusive promo - to force people who want to watch the game to go to Facebook, against which Facebook sells ads and makes $. Facebook pays MLB for the exclusivity. Everyone wins, except, of course, the consumer.
   9. Lassus Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:39 PM (#5648677)
I watched for two innings and listened for exactly two outs. The announcers were very, very awful. EDIT: Who, I see, aren't even mentioned in the article, even just to say who the hell they were.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:41 PM (#5648685)
I only hear people complaining about problems streaming MLB games, here, and more regularly in Omnichatter. Does it ever work well, and how much bandwidth would you need for that? I have MLB.TV included with Extra Innings, but the only time I might use it is out in the boonies where my iPhone hotspot is usually the only Internet connection, sometimes supplemented by so-so campground WiFi. Any chance that would work for MLB.TV?
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:44 PM (#5648688)
What's the reasoning behind making a game accessible only on Facebook?

Thanks for the answers, and I figured as such.

People under the age of 30 something, prefer, for reasons I'll never understand, to watch lots of video on hand held devices, and among others, Facebook, is a medium to provide the content.

I can see the preference for people who can't, or don't want to be pinned down to one location, but making that the exclusive option is beyond obnoxious.

On an historical note, I never thought I'd live to see a screen even smaller than the one that was introduced to the world somewhere around my 4th birthday, but then I guess what goes around comes around.

Everyone wins, except, of course, the consumer.

Naturally.
   12. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 05, 2018 at 01:50 PM (#5648695)
I only hear people complaining about problems streaming MLB games, here, and more regularly in Omnichatter. Does it ever work well, and how much bandwidth would you need for that? I have MLB.TV included with Extra Innings, but the only time I might use it is out in the boonies where my iPhone hotspot is usually the only Internet connection, sometimes supplemented by so-so campground WiFi. Any chance that would work for MLB.TV?

I also have Extra Innings, and between Firefox (which it doesn't accept on Windows 7 as of six days ago) and Chrome (which constantly freezes) the mlb.tv part of that package is completely worthless. I'm just glad that that non-MLB connected Baseball Theater highlights website is blessedly commercial-free and user-friendly.
   13. Perry Posted: April 05, 2018 at 02:27 PM (#5648740)
I also have Extra Innings, and between Firefox (which it doesn't accept on Windows 7 as of six days ago) and Chrome (which constantly freezes) the mlb.tv part of that package is completely worthless. I'm just glad that that non-MLB connected Baseball Theater highlights website is blessedly commercial-free and user-friendly.


I have Extra Innings too, and used mlb.tv to stream the Cardinals opener to my office desktop via Chrome last week. Worked fine. My only complaint is that they black out my home team (Rockies). Couple of nights ago my gf was watching our only TV so I figured no big deal, I can just stream the Rockies game to my laptop -- no go. I could get the radio feed, however.
   14. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: April 05, 2018 at 02:34 PM (#5648751)
Oh, that's why nobody could watch the Phillies/Mets game yesterday. I heard people on both sides complaining about it.
   15. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 05, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5648765)
I have Extra Innings too, and used mlb.tv to stream the Cardinals opener to my office desktop via Chrome last week. Worked fine.

What's maddening is that the stream worked fine all last year on my desktop with Firefox, and even on opening day. And then last Friday night I got a message saying that mlb.tv is only available via Chrome for Windows 7 users. So I installed Chrome, but then the stream kept crashing, and when I called mlb.tv's customer support, I was told that they'd been having the same problems with the desktops in their own office!

Fortunately I mostly just watch games on TV, but as of yesterday the streaming still was crashing every minute or two. It's like they keep introducing all these changes in midstream, and basically transfer the blame to the consumer. I was told I'd get an email response that would address the problem, but that was six days ago and still no message.
   16. Batman Posted: April 05, 2018 at 02:42 PM (#5648770)
On Friday, I let my Cub fan girlfriend know her team was in the 17th inning and told her we could watch it online. MLB.tv worked fine for the one pitch we saw, the one that ended a five hour, 18 minute game and soured her on mlb.tv for good.
   17. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 05, 2018 at 02:50 PM (#5648785)
I assume you proceeded to explain to your girlfriend at some length the difference between correlation and causality?
   18. Batman Posted: April 05, 2018 at 03:06 PM (#5648819)
Of course. That's how we keep the relationship fresh.
   19. Styles P. Deadball Posted: April 05, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5648842)
I assume you proceeded to explain to your girlfriend at some length the difference between correlation and causality?


When you want to get the panties on the floor, I can't think of anything better.
   20. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 05, 2018 at 03:41 PM (#5648849)
You mean other than "hey baby, I'm a regular poster on a sabermetrically inclined baseball website," of course.
   21. Lassus Posted: April 05, 2018 at 03:48 PM (#5648853)
Zip codes.
   22. Batman Posted: April 05, 2018 at 04:53 PM (#5648898)
You mean other than "hey baby, I'm a regular poster on a sabermetrically inclined baseball website," of course.
She's made her peace with that.
   23. . . . . . . Posted: April 05, 2018 at 05:00 PM (#5648903)
She's made her peace with that.


TBF, by banging other men.
   24. salvomania Posted: April 05, 2018 at 05:10 PM (#5648910)
Any chance that would work for MLB.TV?

I've been an Extra Innings/mlb.tv consumer for more than a decade, and it's always improving, and typically I have great results.

I watch it on my phone when I'm away from the house, and on a laptop (if my wife has control of the TV), and on the giant 50" TV with AppleTV.
   25. CWS Keith plans to [omitted] at [omitted] Posted: April 05, 2018 at 05:52 PM (#5648937)
Jolly -

Not sure if this is helpful at all, but I was running into problems streaming MLB.tv on Chrome through my MacBook Pro. I was able to fix it by clearing all cached data and cookies (three vertical dots in top right corner --> more tools --> clear browsing data).
   26. flournoy Posted: April 05, 2018 at 06:58 PM (#5648960)
Zip codes.


I don't think they work like that.
   27. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: April 05, 2018 at 09:25 PM (#5649059)
People under the age of 30 something, prefer, for reasons I'll never understand, to watch lots of video on hand held devices, and among others, Facebook, is a medium to provide the content.


nah, IG or Snapchat maybe. Facebook is about as uncool as it gets among the younger millenials.
   28. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 05, 2018 at 09:48 PM (#5649066)
Jolly -

Not sure if this is helpful at all, but I was running into problems streaming MLB.tv on Chrome through my MacBook Pro. I was able to fix it by clearing all cached data and cookies (three vertical dots in top right corner --> more tools --> clear browsing data).


Thanks, CWS, but I already tried that at the suggestion of the mlb.tv customer service rep. Didn't do me any good, but I might try it again in another week or so in case they've been working on the problem on their end.
   29. Walt Davis Posted: April 05, 2018 at 09:51 PM (#5649068)
I love mlb.tv ... and it's doubly awesome for us international consumers with no blackouts and we get the playoffs. They used to have this issue every year where, for some reason, it refused to recognize me for the first 3 days or so but then everything would work fine. But that hasn't been true for a while. Two issues this year. The first was minor -- for some reason, the at-bat app wouldn't recognize my mlb.tv sub even after troubleshooting but that was cleared up with a re-installation of the app. The bigger issue is that apparently my 5+ year-old Samsung Smart TV is now old enough they no longer support it. That's a nasty little surprise, not the sort of thing I was expecting. Obviously it's fine if it can't support some new fancy feature but to rule it incapable of streaming is very annoying and hard for me to understand how it could really be possible. Anyway, I'm not forking out for a new "TV" just for mlb.tv, I'll just watch on my laptop, phone, work computer.
   30. A Dying Soul Posted: April 05, 2018 at 10:56 PM (#5649114)
This is my first year with mlb.tv and it works well most of the time. I have Spectrum with 100 down and it still buffers sometimes. Never seen Netflix buffer, but with mlb tv it does it enough to notice.
I watch it on my PS4 and the Firestick. Sometimes it will pop up with a box saying 'Mlb.tv is unavailable' and to try again later. It's the only streaming service i've found that has to buffer so much :(

I used to have extra innings and loved it, but don't have directv or dish anymore.
   31. Lassus Posted: April 06, 2018 at 08:27 AM (#5649178)
I don't think they work like that.

That's what she said.
   32. Elvis Posted: April 06, 2018 at 09:06 AM (#5649188)
I watched mlb.tv last night on Firefox with Windows 7 and it worked fine. (Edit - Sorry, that PC has Windows 10)

This year I've been mostly watching on the TV thru the Roku, which has worked better than previous years.

As for the Facebook game, I think there are two or three target audiences that haven't been mentioned here yet.
1. The International Market - before I closed the comments I saw people remarking how they were able to watch from various places outside the U.S.
2. Women - Facebook may not be a great place to reach teenagers but it's a very good place for reaching middle-aged women, who frequently make the purchasing decisions for family summer entertainment.
3. People stuck at work - The deal with Facebook is for afternoon games, with most supposedly being on Wednesdays.

The Facebook broadcast wasted too much screen space and the announcers were horrible. But those are things that can be fixed. I liked the aspect of no commercials and the interviews with the teams' MLB.com writers were good. Hopefully the next one won't start with a rain delay and they'll come up with better color guys than Cliff Floyd and John Kruk.
   33. Lassus Posted: April 06, 2018 at 09:23 AM (#5649194)
and they'll come up with better color guys than Cliff Floyd and John Kruk.

Did anyone in the comments tell Floyd he owed Carlos Beltran dinner for the rest of his goddamned life?
   34. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: April 06, 2018 at 09:38 AM (#5649204)
For a lot of people Facebook live is available on things like Apple TV or Amazon FireStick so if you have one of those devices you can watch it on your television. It comes with drawbacks of course but a lot of the comments I'm reading above about availability and such are similar to when games moved from local UHF channels to cable.

As for the various streaming options (MLB.tv) I personally run into no issues. The big thing that has improved for me is that the Red Sox now are able to use "NESN Go" which allows me to watch on my phone or iPad if I'm not home but still in network.
   35. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: April 06, 2018 at 09:47 AM (#5649207)
Baseball Theater highlights website


Bookmarked, thank you.
   36. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: April 06, 2018 at 09:54 AM (#5649208)
Windows 7? Really?

Microsoft ended mainstream support for Windows 7 on January 13, 2015, but extended support won't end until January 14, 2020. This applies as long as you have Service Pack 1 installed.


I get it, I really do, but even if it is a hassle it is generally a good idea to keep your OS up to date and in support. Upgrade your OS or get a new and upgraded laptop, because it ain't getting better.
   37. Greg Pope Posted: April 06, 2018 at 10:11 AM (#5649217)

I get it, I really do, but even if it is a hassle it is generally a good idea to keep your OS up to date and in support. Upgrade your OS or get a new and upgraded laptop, because it ain't getting better.


It's too late now, but when Windows 10 was released, it was completely free for people to upgrade.
   38. spycake Posted: April 06, 2018 at 12:16 PM (#5649291)
It's too late now, but when Windows 10 was released, it was completely free for people to upgrade.


Actually I think you can still upgrade, using a Windows 7 or 8 key:

https://www.howtogeek.com/272201/all-the-ways-you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free/
   39. spycake Posted: April 06, 2018 at 12:29 PM (#5649300)
This is my first year with mlb.tv and it works well most of the time. I have Spectrum with 100 down and it still buffers sometimes. Never seen Netflix buffer, but with mlb tv it does it enough to notice.
I watch it on my PS4 and the Firestick. Sometimes it will pop up with a box saying 'Mlb.tv is unavailable' and to try again later. It's the only streaming service i've found that has to buffer so much :(


I think these issues (buffering/unavailability) might be device-specific. I have read a lot of complaints this year from Fire Stick and PS4 users of MLB.TV.

I have a 7 year old iPad, a 4 year old Chromecast, and a poor Internet connection, but I've been following Ohtani's games this year in crisp high-defintion with this setup.
   40. spycake Posted: April 06, 2018 at 12:41 PM (#5649310)
The bigger issue is that apparently my 5+ year-old Samsung Smart TV is now old enough they no longer support it. That's a nasty little surprise, not the sort of thing I was expecting. Obviously it's fine if it can't support some new fancy feature but to rule it incapable of streaming is very annoying and hard for me to understand how it could really be possible. Anyway, I'm not forking out for a new "TV" just for mlb.tv, I'll just watch on my laptop, phone, work computer.


That is why I don't trust smart TVs, it must be a pain for content providers to keep supporting all of the different brands and models.

I still use an original Chromecast and I still works great for MLB.TV. Unfortunately the MLB.TV desktop player dropped the native "cast" button this year, but I can still cast from the At Bat apps on Android/iOS.
   41. spycake Posted: April 06, 2018 at 12:53 PM (#5649319)
I only hear people complaining about problems streaming MLB games, here, and more regularly in Omnichatter. Does it ever work well, and how much bandwidth would you need for that? I have MLB.TV included with Extra Innings, but the only time I might use it is out in the boonies where my iPhone hotspot is usually the only Internet connection, sometimes supplemented by so-so campground WiFi. Any chance that would work for MLB.TV?


It could work. On what size of screen would you be watching? Is your iPhone data plan unlimited? Here is the MLB.TV bandwidth requirements and test:
http://www.mlb.com/tools/bandwidthdetect/index.jsp

They also support different bandwidth levels between those listed.

Also good to use the speedtest.net site/apps.
   42. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 06, 2018 at 01:20 PM (#5649335)
If you having problems with Chrome, I suggest using Opera. It's basically the same brother, but strip down and faster.

I haven't had any problems with MLB.tv at home, but like everyone else, I have all sorts of issues when I'm trying to just get it from my phone when I'm on the road. I blame T-Mobile for this; I switched over to their bundle a few weeks ago, and they offer MLB for free on all streaming devices. It's great, right? It is great if you can see it. I can't.
   43. Morty Causa Posted: April 06, 2018 at 01:24 PM (#5649336)
Not sure if this is helpful at all, but I was running into problems streaming MLB.tv on Chrome through my MacBook Pro. I was able to fix it by clearing all cached data and cookies (three vertical dots in top right corner --> more tools --> clear browsing data).

I mostly use Chrome and clear browsing data at least once a week.

I was having a couple of weeks ago little glitches, mostly having to do with typing and keyboard. A guy I know who seems to really know a good bit about this stuff recommended I try ccleaner program before I buy a new computer. It's a free download. It cleans a lot of stuff, and the first time may take a good while to run. I even cleaned out the registry (just an option the program provides). It runs much better, faster, smoother. Not nearly as much problem with typing ( I also switched the USB insert from the back of the computer to the front.)

Just for informational purposes.

EDIT: Be warned,though, cleaner cleans out pretty all stuff, unless you deactivate choices. That means passwords to BBTF, online banking, etc..

I had downloaded Opera. That didn't solve my problem. Edge is kind of a pain the ass, but it's video component seems clearer and brighter than Chrome's. Of course, that might be my old computer and monitor.

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