Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, October 03, 2019

Fan sues Mets after being nearly blinded by T-shirt launcher | Sporting News

Alcohol may have been involved.

Jim Furtado Posted: October 03, 2019 at 02:41 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: fan safety, mets

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. salvomania Posted: October 03, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5885998)
Alcohol may have been involved.

I always heard wood alcohol could make you go blind.
   2. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 03:11 PM (#5886002)

Would be good to have more details. Those cannons have some firepower, but I think you'd have to be hit at nearly point-blank range to do that kind of damage. Usually when the operators want to give a shirt to someone in the front rows, they just toss it.
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 03:27 PM (#5886008)
Would be good to have more details. Those cannons have some firepower, but I think you'd have to be hit at nearly point-blank range to do that kind of damage. Usually when the operators want to give a shirt to someone in the front rows, they just toss it.

Yeah. If the T-shirt cannon guy just flat out launched a shirt at someone 15 feet away, that's a big no-no, and the Mets should pay. If the fan drunkenly careened in front of the cannon, and accidentally got hit, that's on him.
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: October 03, 2019 at 03:35 PM (#5886015)
they started doing this in the NBA in the 1990s - before the league wised up and moved the media seats from courtside to nosebleed territory.

nothing like having a birdbrained cheerleader making $10 a game holding your life in her hands with every stupid firing of the launcher.
   5. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2019 at 03:39 PM (#5886018)
   6. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 03, 2019 at 03:42 PM (#5886021)
FTActualFA:

Swanson walked down to the rail, hoping to add another shirt to his collection when the guy operating the T-shirt cannon seemed to be having trouble with his shooter.

The man lowered the muzzle to deal with the issue — and discharged the tightly wrapped jersey into Swanson’s face from 20 feet away.

The doting dad said he was knocked off his feet and fell backwards, hitting his head and blacking out.

“The guy who shot the gun scampered away,” Swanson said.

When he came to, he was surrounded by his sons and Mets support staff. He was taken to the nurses station, but refused to go to the hospital because he could still see, despite his eye being badly swollen.

A CAT scan the next day found he’s suffered a concussion and severe eye trauma that he still deals with to this day, said his lawyer Dustin Levine of Ancona & Levine in Mineola. His retina was nearly completely severed, left hanging by a thread, the suit claims.

---------

A 2016 study of the dangers T-shirt cannons conducted by West Point Military Academy found they do indeed have the power to injure.

“The folded T-shirts achieved kinetic energies fifteen times larger than that of a paintball gun, nine times larger than that of a pellet gun and nearly half that of a 9mm handgun,” according to the authors.
   7. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 04:08 PM (#5886038)
If it wasn't for the requirements for 'standing' I'd sue these pricks for doing the T-shirt launch as a public nuisance.
   8. RoyalFlush Posted: October 03, 2019 at 04:28 PM (#5886049)
I would like to see the kinetic energy comparisons to a hot dog gun. KC's mascot detached a guy's retina with one of those bad boys.
   9. The Duke Posted: October 03, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5886063)
Baseball is in desperate need of a safety manager. How anyone could think these t-shirt launchers aren’t a major accident waiting to happen is beyond me. There is the obvious issue with foul balls. There is the over-selling of alcohol ( although to be fair you have to be really rich to get drunk at the ballpark), there’s the lack of handrails on steps, and the most amazing (which has caused death and paralysis ) are all the areas you can lean over and fall into a void (both inside the ballpark and fall over to the outside (happened at Ted Turner ).

Life is unsafe but the ballparks seemingly do very little to mitigate obvious risks

And don’t get me started on the number of players who have hurt themselves playing because of bad field conditions, slippery bases, running into walls or other hard objects, having your eye taken out by a foul ball (happened to a cardinal a few years ago ). As fun as the wrigley ivy is, that wall is a health. hazard
   10. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5886068)
The number of brick walls around baseball, particularly behind home plates at the newer parks (and even the "classics" like Globe Life Park RIP) always amazes me. That the MLBPA hasn't raised hell over in play bullpens also amazes me. I am equally amazed that nothing was done about enforcing on deck circles after the Juan Encarnacion incident.

tl;dr Jose is Amazed.
   11. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5886069)
Meanwhile in New York, a man got hit in the 'nads at the batting cage and has filed suit.
   12. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:25 PM (#5886081)
When I was in college, I interned in our sports information department and one season I got to work for the baseball team (Go Gators). We had a midweek game against a non-conference cupcake, and a rain delay cleared out most of the crowd, as well as everybody from the marketing department who usually staffed the press box. That meant it fell to me to throw a free t-shirt into the crowd after the home team turned a double play - it was one of the ongoing promotions.

Anyway, I tried to get cute, and I held the shirt out to the right before throwing it blind across my body to the left. And then I watched in horror as the balled up t-shirt struck an old woman in the back of the head.

She came up the press box an inning or two later to talk to someone in charge, and I had the opportunity to abjectly apologize many, many times. My bosses ended up plying her with free tickets and other goodies and there weren't any lawsuits filed. But to this day, 14 years later, my old co-workers still relentlessly mock me for that time I nearly concussed an elderly woman with a t-shirt.
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:32 PM (#5886085)
Jeez, CFBF, if you could throw a t-shirt hard enough to injure someone, you should have been on the mound rather than in the press box.
   14. bunyon Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:38 PM (#5886088)
The man was fine but them spent ten minutes with Mets trainers.
   15. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:38 PM (#5886089)

Baseball is in desperate need of a safety manager. How anyone could think these t-shirt launchers aren’t a major accident waiting to happen is beyond me.

It's not just baseball. They use them at NBA games, college games, I assume football games as well although I haven't been to an NFL game in a long time. There's been, what, a handful of injuries in their decade-plus of use? And that includes people who broke a finger or whatever.

What happened to this guy is unfortunate and if true he should get some settlement from the Mets. And the people who operate these guys should receive some basic safety training and be subject to some rules of use. But in a sport where batted balls and occasionally bats themselves are regularly flying into the stands I don't see the t-shirt cannon as something that poses a signficant incremental risk.
   16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:54 PM (#5886092)
I’d go the other way - they need to power the launchers up to give the deserving fans in the upper decks a chance for a t-shirt. Can’t have such sought after prizes restricted to the swells in the lower bowl.
   17. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 03, 2019 at 06:11 PM (#5886094)
I’d go the other way - they need to power the launchers up to give the deserving fans in the upper decks a chance for a t-shirt. Can’t have such sought after prizes restricted to the swells in the lower bowl.
T-shirt launchers for the upper deck. Tuxedo launchers for the box seats.
   18. Zach Posted: October 03, 2019 at 07:26 PM (#5886135)
Meanwhile in New York, a man got hit in the 'nads at the batting cage and has filed suit.

Time to revive the Nutty Buddy thread!

This great thread, too.
   19. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 03, 2019 at 07:38 PM (#5886146)
Blinding someone who watches the Mets is an act of infinite mercy.
   20. puck Posted: October 03, 2019 at 08:08 PM (#5886161)
I’d go the other way - they need to power the launchers up to give the deserving fans in the upper decks a chance for a t-shirt.


That's the way perq's go, right? Typically the people who get them are the ones who could afford to just pay for them.
   21. Howie Menckel Posted: October 03, 2019 at 08:19 PM (#5886175)
I was in the upper deck behind the plate at Citi Field about two years ago - front row, but still - and my buddy reluctantly caught one coming right at him (not hard to field from that distance, actually).

so yes, even the mouth breathers like us have a chance
   22. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 03, 2019 at 11:13 PM (#5886299)
A 2016 study of the dangers T-shirt cannons conducted by West Point Military Academy


Great to hear the future leaders of America's military might will have an extensive working knowledge of T-shirt cannons! Those pesky folks in the middle east had better be running scared!
   23. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: October 04, 2019 at 11:41 AM (#5886406)
Remember Maude Flanders...

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
The Piehole of David Wells
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogAcing it: Success of Nats, Astros puts attention on starters
(8 - 11:40am, Nov 14)
Last: Never Give an Inge (Dave)

NewsblogdeGrom repeats, JV edges Cole for Cy honors
(21 - 11:40am, Nov 14)
Last: Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques

NewsblogHe told a kid to slide. Then he got sued.
(68 - 11:39am, Nov 14)
Last: Barry`s_Lazy_Boy

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-14-2019
(5 - 11:38am, Nov 14)
Last: Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee)

Hall of MeritMock 2020 Modern Baseball Ballot
(44 - 11:20am, Nov 14)
Last: Esoteric

Gonfalon CubsRegrets
(100 - 11:09am, Nov 14)
Last: Kiko Sakata

NewsblogOT- Soccer Thread- October 2019
(471 - 11:07am, Nov 14)
Last: Mefisto

NewsblogOT - NBA Thread, Start of the 2019-2020 Season
(824 - 10:52am, Nov 14)
Last: Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean

NewsblogMLB minimum salary rises $8,500 to $563,500 next season
(4 - 10:51am, Nov 14)
Last: kubiwan

NewsblogGiants pick ousted Phillies manager Gabe Kapler to succeed Bruce Bochy
(19 - 10:50am, Nov 14)
Last: SoSH U at work

NewsblogAfter failed soccer endeavor, Mike Piazza set to manage Italian National Baseball Team
(2 - 10:12am, Nov 14)
Last: Crispix Attacksel Rios

NewsblogPadres unveil new brown and gold color scheme
(22 - 10:10am, Nov 14)
Last: Infinite Yost (Voxter)

NewsblogThe Astros stole signs electronically in 2017 | The Athletic (paywall)
(161 - 9:55am, Nov 14)
Last: The Duke

NewsblogBoras bashes lack of competition, senses faster-paced market
(2 - 9:41am, Nov 14)
Last: eric

NewsblogAngels hire Tony La Russa as baseball operations special assistant
(21 - 8:55am, Nov 14)
Last: Ben Broussard Ramjet

Page rendered in 0.3392 seconds
46 querie(s) executed