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Wednesday, August 06, 2014

Fangraphs: Andrew McCutchen’s Injury Is A Huge Blow

In the original draft of this post, this portion talked about how it was at least plausible that being hit in the back one night and coming up with a strained oblique (which is what this really looked like) the next night could be unrelated. We could infer, but not say for sure. Pirates fans could be angry at the Diamondbacks, but no one could be certain. Now, it’s come out that McCutchen actually fractured a rib – he has *deep breath* “an avulsion fracture involving the costochondral cartilage of the left 11th rib” – and so what can I say other than: Have at it, Pittsburgh. It certainly seems like your season has been irreparably altered by a gutless act from a terrible team with a bad reputation, even if there’s at least some opinions that say otherwise.

Anyway, regardless of the cause, the Pirates now need to try to win without their best player for some amount of time…

Esoteric Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:26 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: arizona diamondbacks, kirk gibson is a prat, pittsburgh pirates

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   1. valuearbitrageur Posted: August 06, 2014 at 05:31 PM (#4765883)
your season has been irreparably altered by a gutless act from a terrible team with a bad reputation


Can't describe it any better myself.

Dear Pirates & Baseball Fans, My apologies, signed - an embarrassed and ashamed DBacks Fan.
   2. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: August 06, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4765889)
Three things:

Petriello does a Dodgers-specific blog called Dodgers Digest, so it's worth assuming he's a Dodgers fan.

I'm not a doctor.

But I read somewhere that the "fracture" involves not the breaking of the rib bone, but the tearing of the cartilage from the rib bone. That seems unlikely to have been the result of being hit with a baseball.
   3. cardsfanboy Posted: August 06, 2014 at 05:46 PM (#4765896)
But I read somewhere that the "fracture" involves not the breaking of the rib bone, but the tearing of the cartilage from the rib bone. That seems unlikely to have been the result of being hit with a baseball.


Isn't it arguable that twisting the body rapidly to avoid the ball, capable of causing the cartilage to tear?
   4. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: August 06, 2014 at 05:56 PM (#4765902)


I'm not a doctor, but yeah, that sounds logical.

It is really hard to be a Dodgers fan (where Gibson's 1988 home run and Scully's call have reached mythic proportions) and watch Gibson act like a total d---.
   5. Bug Selig Posted: August 06, 2014 at 06:34 PM (#4765927)
But I read somewhere that the "fracture" involves not the breaking of the rib bone, but the tearing of the cartilage from the rib bone.


I'm not a doctor, but I am a mechanical engineer. The rapid deformation of a quasi-rigid member (in this case a rib) is as likely to delaminate it from surrounding material of different stiffness as it is to cause simple fracture.
   6. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: August 06, 2014 at 06:46 PM (#4765936)
I'm not a doctor, but I am a mechanical engineer. The rapid deformation of a quasi-rigid member (in this case a rib) is as likely to delaminate it from surrounding material of different stiffness as it is to cause simple fracture.


I'm sold.
   7. Davo Dozier Posted: August 06, 2014 at 06:51 PM (#4765940)
I'm not a doctor, but I am a mechanical engineer. The rapid deformation of a quasi-rigid member (in this case a rib) is as likely to delaminate it from surrounding material of different stiffness as it is to cause simple fracture.

Can you tell me at what temperature steel melts? Asking for a friend with some interesting theories about American history.
   8. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 06, 2014 at 06:55 PM (#4765945)
#1

You've been far and away the most vocal about a position that we share. As a fan of another team, I too am ashamed that anyone associated with this great game could partake in such a cowardly act.
This is now getting ridiculous and all of our whinging about "someone is going to get hurt" has now come to fruition.
Gibson and anyone else in the FO found responsible should be facing a very long stint out of the game and a substantial fine; with the caveat that if it's clear this sort of thing occurs again, then they are gone for good.
You can't just be throwing the ball at 95MPH at someone, it just isn't right. Pitch inside all you like, sometimes the ball does get away, but in this instance considering the circumstances, this was just an out and out beaning of a star player.
   9. Bug Selig Posted: August 06, 2014 at 08:37 PM (#4765982)
Can you tell me at what temperature steel melts?


Anybody with a handbook can tell you that - not worthy of my student loan balance:-)
   10. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: August 06, 2014 at 08:44 PM (#4765985)
Gibson absolutely deserves a suspension, at a minimum.
   11. Squash Posted: August 06, 2014 at 08:54 PM (#4765988)
Gibson absolutely deserves a suspension, at a minimum.

But he proved he's a man, so, win!!!
   12. valuearbitrageur Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:12 PM (#4766053)
Gibson absolutely deserves a suspension, at a minimum.


Gibson on multiple occasions talked about the need for his pitchers to hit the opposition, and the MLB did nothing.

The teams general manager PUBLICLY told his pitchers they better start hitting more batters this off-season and the MLB did nothing.

Clearly the MLBs position on intentional plunking, like almost all of its other positions, is to do nothing, which is almost certainly what they will do here. Or not do, LOLZ
   13. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:07 AM (#4766076)
Clearly the MLBs position on intentional plunking, like almost all of its other positions, is to do nothing

But look at how MLB is STAMPING OUT TEH ROIDS!!!11!!1
   14. SandyRiver Posted: August 07, 2014 at 09:30 AM (#4766165)
Can you tell me at what temperature steel melts?

Anybody with a handbook can tell you that - not worthy of my student loan balance:-)


And it's the wrong question, anyway. More to the point is the temp at which steel loses most of its loadbearing capacity (though its being hit by a baseball is unlikely to be a relevant factor.)
   15. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:24 PM (#4766307)
More to the point is the temp at which steel loses most of its loadbearing capacity (though its being hit by a baseball is unlikely to be a relevant factor.)


But what about a baseball hitting someone in the balls? How much force is needed to rupture a testicle? And what if someone offered you $1,000 to throw a ball at your junk?

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