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Friday, November 06, 2009

FanGraphs: Moore: Putz Out In New York

J.J. Runsucker and the Sweet Smell of Failure.

The J.J. Putz era in New York ended yesterday, as the Mets bought out the final year of Putz’s contract. With the last year at 8.6 million dollars and the closer position locked up by Francisco Rodriguez, it is a no-brainer for the Mets to pay the 1 million dollar buyout and avoid locking up a significant sum of money on a questionable set-up man.

How remarkably quickly it seems that one of the potential best 8th and 9th inning combos in baseball has been disassembled. While giving up a seven player package, including major league talent in the form of Aaron Heilman, Jason Vargas, Endy Chavez, and Joe Smith, for a small package centered around an expensive reliever appears to be wrong at a glance, due to the fungibility of those kinds of pitchers, this deal brought things to a whole new level.

...It hit the fan for Putz in 2009. His control problems persisted and his strikeout rate plummeted. Now, as a 32-year old-reliever running a 1.00 K/BB ratio, Putz hits the market again. He just screams reclamation project. It will be interesting to see what team bites.

From the Mets’ standpoint, they sunk 6 million dollars and 7 players into acquiring Putz, Jeremy Reed, and Sean Green. The trade has produced 0.1 WAR from Putz, -0.7 WAR Reed, and -.1 WAR from Green. Unless Reed and Green somehow become productive major leaguers, this trade will go down as historically bad for New York.

The Mets bullpen will likely be a focal point for the front office again this winter. We’ll find out if they’ve learned their lesson.

Repoz Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:33 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:40 PM (#3380657)
The Phillies should bite on that.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:43 PM (#3380662)
I like Endy, but he's a free agent now, and Heilman, Vargas and Smith are all pretty worthless. Not anywhere near historically bad.

Edit: Ezeqiuel Carrera is the most valuable property the Mets gave up.
   3. Lassus Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:46 PM (#3380664)
The torture stopped for a whole month. Whee.
   4. Win one for Agrippa (haplo53) Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:47 PM (#3380665)
AFAIK the buyout doesn't preclude the possibility of him returning to NYM.
   5. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:49 PM (#3380668)
Carp looks pretty good, too. I'd agree that it's not historically bad as none of the players are going to be historical. It's just your standard awful trade.
   6. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:50 PM (#3380670)
"Putz Out In New York"

You're telling me - the streets outside my office are choked with them this morning.
   7. billyshears Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:51 PM (#3380672)
Yeah, this deal didn't work out quite as well as we hoped. On the bright side, the bullpen was far from the Mets biggest problem in 2009.
   8. Adam M Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:52 PM (#3380674)
"Putz Out In New York"

You're telling me - the streets outside my office are choked with them this morning.


Brilliant. Well played, sir.
   9. Nasty Nate Posted: November 06, 2009 at 04:58 PM (#3380682)
"Putz Out In New York"


sounds like Option J
   10. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: November 06, 2009 at 05:00 PM (#3380686)

sounds like Option J


1. Best Regards, The Crybaby Larry Mahnken Posted: November 06, 2009 at 11:40 AM (#3380657)

The Phillies should bite on that.
   11. Toolsy McClutch Posted: November 06, 2009 at 05:47 PM (#3380743)
I thought it was a brilliant move for the Mets last year.
   12. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: November 06, 2009 at 05:57 PM (#3380764)
Time for Putz to go back to closing for a 100 loss team to get his adrenaline flowing so he can pitch effectively.
   13. Moloka'i Three-Finger Brown (Declino DeShields) Posted: November 06, 2009 at 06:08 PM (#3380777)
Well, I was just about to suggest that the Nats give it a whirl ...
   14. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 06, 2009 at 06:14 PM (#3380796)
I can definitely see him on the Tigers..
   15. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 06, 2009 at 06:51 PM (#3380878)
"Putz Out In New York"

sounds like Option J


His play was more like Plan 9, though.
   16. Curse of the Andino Posted: November 06, 2009 at 06:54 PM (#3380886)
Time for Putz to go back to closing for a 100 loss team to get his adrenaline flowing so he can pitch effectively.


O's have a need...
   17. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: November 06, 2009 at 06:59 PM (#3380893)
O's have a need...

No way they lose 100 games. They're my pick to be the surprisingly decent team of 2010. They won't win anything notable, but they will be relatively respectable.
   18. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 06, 2009 at 07:00 PM (#3380899)
Can we get Putz to join with Wang?
   19. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: November 06, 2009 at 07:02 PM (#3380906)
Can we get Putz to join with Wang?

Not in Maine, you can't.
   20. Cooper Nielson Posted: November 06, 2009 at 07:03 PM (#3380913)
I can definitely see him on the Tigers...

Makes sense. Putz is from Michigan, and the Tigers need relief help. Not sure how the $$$ match up.
   21. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: November 06, 2009 at 07:07 PM (#3380922)
Can we get Putz to join with Wang?


Only if their games are covered by Peter Schmuck.
   22. Mr. J. Penny Smoltzuzaka Posted: November 06, 2009 at 08:07 PM (#3381088)
Can we get Putz to join with Wang?


It would help to be able to speak Mandarin.
   23. Cooper Nielson Posted: November 06, 2009 at 08:49 PM (#3381190)
Can we get Putz to join with Wang?

Only if their games are covered by Peter Schmuck.


With Dick Pole as pitching coach...
   24. Eric P. Posted: November 06, 2009 at 09:41 PM (#3381272)
Can we get Putz to join with Wang?

Only if their games are covered by Peter Schmuck.

With Dick Pole as pitching coach...


I hear Rusty Kuntz is looking for work...
   25. bobm Posted: November 07, 2009 at 12:30 AM (#3381554)
"Putz Out In New York"


Minaya was fired? Fred Wilponzi sold the team?
   26. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: November 07, 2009 at 01:16 AM (#3381583)
I thought at the time that the Mets had won this trade.
   27. Something Other Posted: November 07, 2009 at 02:20 AM (#3381610)
The trade was always going to be, at best, a significant overpay for one year of Putz. At 8.6 million for Putz in 2010 and Frankie signed for an AAV of 13.75 million, it made no sense for the Mets to keep Putz and thereby sink a combined 22.25 million into their setup man and closer for 2010. Even the MFYankees don't do that, and the Mets had obvious holes in the starting rotation going into 2009. Just a bad deal that actually got a lot worse.

edit: minor number correction
   28. Athletic Supporter leads the nation in drifters Posted: November 07, 2009 at 02:31 AM (#3381616)
Frankie signed for an AAV of 13.75 million

K-Rod is making 13.75 million a year?!

I must have known that when it happened, but ... good lord, that's a lot of money.
   29. Something Other Posted: November 07, 2009 at 03:24 AM (#3381636)
Based on an assumption likely to come true. The killer is the $17.5 million option year. From Cot's:

2012:$17.5M option ($3.5M buyout)
2012 option becomes guaranteed with:
55 games finished in 2011, and
100 games finished in 2010-11, and
doctors declare Rodriguez healthy after 2011
Rodriguez receives $3.5M termination buyout if 2012 option does not become guaranteed


There are also performance bonuses based on games finished every year.

Someone wrote a terrific article recently (wish I'd bookmarked it) on the difference between the Mets' and the Angels' 2008-2009 offseasons.

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