Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Wednesday, March 20, 2019

FanGraphs Pitch Framing

In 2008, when Dan Turkenkopf was the first to quantify the value of pitch framing, he noted that it appeared to be alarmingly important. Bill Letson was similarly astounded when he calculated the size of the effect in 2010. Max Marchi and Mike Fast each took a turn in 2011, finding large and highly correlated catcher values despite using different methods. Other sabermetric luminaries have contributed sophisticated methods and sanity checks, some of which I’ll touch on below. And yet, this terrifically important, seemingly well-established, and impressively repeatable defensive skill has been left out when calculating FanGraphs player WAR and ignored when Steamer forecasts pitchers and catchers. . . until now…..

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 06:35 PM | 1 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: pitch framing

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. cardsfanboy Posted: March 20, 2019 at 09:08 PM (#5824162)
I'm a huge fan of pitch framing data, still do not support the run methodology at all... you can't use a per pitch run methodology in conjuction with a per result run methodology, those are two different animals, and you would have to do a isht ton of regression to the per pitch methodology too apply it to the per event methodology.


Still great article.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Andere Richtingen
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOT - Catch-All Pop Culture Extravaganza (April 2019)
(333 - 2:14pm, Apr 18)
Last: Hysterical & Useless

NewsblogWhite Sox-Royals benches clear, managers go after each other | The Kansas City Star
(22 - 2:11pm, Apr 18)
Last: Rusty Priske

NewsblogRed Sox injury: Where things stand with Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia's knee | WEEI
(4 - 2:05pm, Apr 18)
Last: Jose is an Absurd Kahuna

Sox TherapyWe Can Be Concerned Now
(41 - 2:01pm, Apr 18)
Last: Jose is an Absurd Kahuna

NewsblogOT Soccer Thread, v.2019
(1163 - 1:57pm, Apr 18)
Last: jmurph

Gonfalon Cubs2019 Season Predictions
(76 - 1:56pm, Apr 18)
Last: Meatwad

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1915 Discussion
(12 - 1:49pm, Apr 18)
Last: DL from MN

NewsblogOT - NBA thread (Playoffs through off-season)
(90 - 1:49pm, Apr 18)
Last: Jtsports01

NewsblogMLB umpires missed 34,294 ball-strike calls in 2018, study shows
(196 - 1:22pm, Apr 18)
Last: Never Give an Inge (Dave)

NewsblogExclusive: Giants acknowledge it’s finally time to explore moving in the fences at Oracle Park – The Athletic
(26 - 12:52pm, Apr 18)
Last: .

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-18-2019
(10 - 12:49pm, Apr 18)
Last: CheersUnusualPlays

NewsblogWe want OMNICHATTER!, not a belly scratcher, for April 17, 2019
(65 - 12:24pm, Apr 18)
Last: The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie)

NewsblogBrian Cashman defends Yankees medical staff after Greg Bird injury
(14 - 12:15pm, Apr 18)
Last: The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie)

NewsblogContract Extension Fever Isn’t Just About Economics | FanGraphs Baseball
(51 - 12:01pm, Apr 18)
Last: .

Newsblog'Major League' turns 30: How a Dodgers hero helped turn Hollywood stars into a real baseball team
(13 - 11:21am, Apr 18)
Last: Greg Pope

Page rendered in 0.2104 seconds
46 querie(s) executed