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Thursday, January 19, 2012

Fausto Carmona arrested in Dominican Republic for using false identity

Sure, when Newton McPherson uses a different name, its okay, but when Roberto Hernandez Heredia does it, its a criminal matter!

Jorge Arangure of ESPN.com passes along word from reporter Yancen Pujols that Indians right-hander Fausto Carmona was arrested in the Dominican Republic and is being charged with using a false identity.

According to Pujols, Dominican police arrested Carmona–whose real name is apparently Roberto Hernandez Heredia–while he was leaving the American consulate after renewing his visa.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 04:46 PM | 81 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. dirk Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:06 PM (#4040612)
and now he's 31 instead of 28.
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:15 PM (#4040626)
I'm guessing this puts his season in jeopardy.

OTOH, this potentially clears up $7 mill for the Tribe to pursue Roy Oswalt or Carlos Pena.
   3. JJ1986 Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4040629)
Carmona has been crappy for the last 4 years. I don't get why the Indians picked up his option in the first place.
   4. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4040634)
Just looked at his BBREF page. His career WAR is less than his best season WAR.
   5. Swedish Chef Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4040641)
According to Pujols, Dominican police arrested Carmona–whose real name is apparently Roberto Hernandez Heredia–while he was leaving the American consulate after renewing his visa.

I just can't imagine the circumstances that would lead to that situation. Do Dominican police trawl the streets looking for people using false identities? If they already suspected "Carmona", the natural thing would be to nab him at his home. Hmmm, maybe they caught him with two sets of papers.

Of course, I'm starting to believe that no one in the Dominican Republic has a "real" identity at all and that they all laugh at us for our attachment to obsolete concepts like immutable identities.
   6. Greg K Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:37 PM (#4040644)
I find it hard to judge him. I'd upgrade from Roberto Hernandez to Fausto Carmona any day of the week

That's like jumping up from John Williams to Ruddiger Halcente.
   7. DA Baracus Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4040648)
I always liked his name. Turns out it was too good to be true.
   8. Brian Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4040649)
I just can't imagine the circumstances that would lead to that situation. Do Dominican police trawl the streets looking for people using false identities? If they already suspected "Carmona", the natural thing would be to nab him at his home. Hmmm, maybe they caught him with two sets of papers.


Perhaps because until he renewed his visa he only possessed false identity docs. Afterwards he could charged with using a false identity. This despite his having lived under a false name for 10+ years now so maybe they needed a fresh crime.
   9. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 05:53 PM (#4040657)
Please tell me the local newspaper used the headline "The Damnation of Fausto".
   10. Hit by Pitch Posted: January 19, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4040668)
Maybe the complaint came from the American consulate. They could have found him out when he was trying to renew his visa and have no choice but to comply with policy that dictates they rat him out.
   11. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 19, 2012 at 06:01 PM (#4040669)
Just looked at his BBREF page. His career WAR is less than his best season WAR.


He's the Miguel Dilone of pitchers!
   12. bobm Posted: January 19, 2012 at 06:15 PM (#4040678)
Carmona–whose real name is apparently Roberto Hernandez Heredia


He didn't want anyone thinking he was related to the Run Fairy.
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4040683)

Maybe the complaint came from the American consulate. They could have found him out when he was trying to renew his visa and have no choice but to comply with policy that dictates they rat him out.


Tipped off by the Cleveland Indians to get out of that contract?
   14. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: January 19, 2012 at 06:22 PM (#4040684)

I'm trying to come up with a joke and/or quirky stat involving Fausto Carmona, Roberto Hernandez, Gil Heredia, and Felix Heredia, but I got nothin.
   15. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4040694)
this comment from the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
"The always innovative Indians front office is now making plans for Carmona to remain in the starting rotation, while Roberto Hernandez-Heredia joins the bullpen as a middle reliever.

This way, Carmona can relieve himself without having to leave the mound during a game."
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: January 19, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4040714)
Jorge Arangure of ESPN.com passes along word from reporter Yancen Pujols....


not sayin, i'm just sayin...
   17. Austin Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4040716)
My immediate reaction was, "oh, gosh - not again." How many false identities is it normal to discover in one offseason?
   18. zack Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4040718)
If you were gonna pick a made up name, why would you pick a name fit only for a dastardly villain?
   19. Swedish Chef Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4040719)
If you were gonna pick a made up name, why would you pick a name fit only for a dastardly villain?

What, if you were free to choose, why wouldn't you choose an awesome moustache-twirling villain name?
   20. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4040723)
I find it hard to judge him. I'd upgrade from Roberto Hernandez to Fausto Carmona any day of the week


"Dennis Feinstien though? he should probably change it to something a little more exotic if he wants to make it big in the world of perfume."

"Oh, his real name is Dante Fiero, but he changed it to Dennis Feinstien 'cause that's way more exotic in Pawnee."
   21. Gamingboy Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4040729)
"Whoops, my bad."
   22. Textbook Editor Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4040744)
This way, Carmona can relieve himself without having to leave the mound during a game.


um... ick.
   23. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:53 PM (#4040754)
Carmona can relieve himself without having to leave the mound during a game.
Hey, laugh all you want, but this is a skill that would have come in handy for Jason Boyd a few years ago. He left a game with "stomach cramps", then was unavailable for several days because of the flu.

Rubber Krapp, however, never had that problem.
   24.     Hey Gurl Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:13 PM (#4040766)

Carmona–whose real name is apparently Roberto Hernandez Heredia


Whoa, two shitty relievers in one!
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4040775)
I find it hard to judge him. I'd upgrade from Roberto Hernandez to Fausto Carmona any day of the week


Fausto Carmona doesn't abbrieviate! In his name, each letter is as important as the one that preceded it. Maybe even more important.

No, as important.
   26. Good cripple hitter Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4040782)
I can just picture Fausto Carmona speaking to a school group before a start:

Carmona: "Kids, there's three ways to do things. The right way, the wrong way, and the Fausto Carmona way!"
Sassy student: "Isn't that the wrong way?"
Carmona: "Yes, but faster!"
(Carmona turns around and somehow immediately gives up a grand slam)
   27. JE (Jason) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:42 PM (#4040784)
"Fausto Carmona" was actually his second choice; alas, "Leo Nunez" was already taken.
   28. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:43 PM (#4040786)
Please tell me the local newspaper used the headline "The Damnation of Fausto".


How about "Carmona, Not You?"
   29. JE (Jason) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4040791)
   30. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 19, 2012 at 09:26 PM (#4040807)
"Great name!"

"I got it from a hair dryer."
   31. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: January 19, 2012 at 09:56 PM (#4040825)
The real Carmona has been retired fifteen years and is living like a king in Patagonia.
   32. boteman Posted: January 19, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4040831)
"There has been a delay in finalizing last week’s blockbuster trade between the New York Yankees and Seattle Mariners because Jesus Montero has had difficulty leaving his native Venezuela to undergo the required physical exam, a major-league source told FOXSports.com."

If that's his real name...


Maybe he's been kidnapped???
   33. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 19, 2012 at 11:09 PM (#4040869)
Carmona my house, my house
I'm gonna give you passport
Carmona my house, my house
I'm gonna make you three years younger with a new name too
Eh?
   34. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: January 19, 2012 at 11:46 PM (#4040880)
"Your name, sir?"
"Rock Strongo."
"Your REAL name sir?"
"Ummm... errr, Lance Uppercut."
"Sign here, Mr. Uppercut."
   35. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: January 19, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4040884)
How about "Carmona, Not You?"

As sung by a guy who entered into a group conspiracy to change their surnames to reflect the pseudonym used by Paul McCartney, whose first name isn't even Paul... THERE ARE LAYERS WITHIN LAYERS IN THIS ROTTEN ONION OF SHAME
   36. birdlives is one crazy ninja Posted: January 19, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4040885)
How does this affect his ZiPS projection and, more importantly, his HoF chances?
   37. Coot Veal and Cot Deal taste like Old Bay Posted: January 20, 2012 at 01:00 AM (#4040916)
Carmona my house, my house


that's damned excellent...
   38. villageidiom Posted: January 20, 2012 at 01:02 AM (#4040920)
How does this affect his ZiPS projection and, more importantly, his HoF chances Frank Tanana?
FTFY.
   39. Morty Causa Posted: January 20, 2012 at 01:25 AM (#4040930)
Saying someone in the Dominican Republic is using a false identity is priceless. No one there is who he says he is. Would you be? Isn't that the Dominican Repubic's raison d'etre?
   40. Something Other Posted: January 20, 2012 at 02:50 AM (#4040944)
They're not common, but it still seems these days that more players are signing deals that give their teams multiple options. The Indians have options on "Carmona" for 9m in 2013 and 12m in 2014. Those options are potentially very, very valuable. James Shields gave Tampa several options, too. Are players really getting much in return, say several extra million in guaranteed money on their nonoption seasons?


Of course, I'm starting to believe that no one in the Dominican Republic has a "real" identity at all and that they all laugh at us for our attachment to obsolete concepts like immutable identities.
I thought the internet took care of that concept once and for all, "Swedish Chef".

If that's your real name!
   41. Dr. Vaux Posted: January 20, 2012 at 02:57 AM (#4040945)
Well, we know that Something Other's first name actually is Something. The question is what that something is. :)
   42. Something Other Posted: January 20, 2012 at 04:07 AM (#4040959)
Shhh. It's a secret. Even to me.

How much longer until you finish the dissertation? Is it going well?
   43. Greg K Posted: January 20, 2012 at 04:20 AM (#4040963)
"Dennis Feinstien though? he should probably change it to something a little more exotic if he wants to make it big in the world of perfume."

"Oh, his real name is Dante Fiero, but he changed it to Dennis Feinstien 'cause that's way more exotic in Pawnee."

Ah, now Carmona's endorsement of that ehter-based perfume makes sense.
   44. Dr. Vaux Posted: January 20, 2012 at 04:45 AM (#4040966)
I might finish it this spring. I'm excited. I have well over 300 pages of a draft written.
   45. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 20, 2012 at 09:52 AM (#4041006)
"Great name!"

"I got it from a hair dryer."


The first time I saw the company name on the urinals of our UK offices, I knew I had a name for a British detective, if I ever wrote a novel and it needed a British detective: Armitage Shanks.
   46. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: January 20, 2012 at 10:07 AM (#4041013)
The real Carmona has been retired fifteen years and is living like a king in Patagonia.


Winner winner, chicken dinner!
   47. Steve Sparks Flying Everywhere Posted: January 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4041018)
What, if you were free to choose, why wouldn't you choose an awesome moustache-twirling villain name?


I'd probably go with Smoke Manmuscle or maybe Big McLargehuge.
   48. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: January 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM (#4041025)
Great name!"

"I got it from a hair dryer."

The first time I saw the company name on the urinals of our UK offices, I knew I had a name for a British detective, if I ever wrote a novel and it needed a British detective: Armitage Shanks.


It's probably old news to many here, but Buffalo Springfield got their name from the manufacturer of a steamroller that Stephen Stills happened to spot parked outside his window.
   49. Poulanc Posted: January 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM (#4041035)
I'd probably go with Smoke Manmuscle or maybe Big McLargehuge.


Bulk VanderHuge!
   50. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 20, 2012 at 10:47 AM (#4041038)
Johnny Jumpkick or Bruce Facesmash.
   51. Greg K Posted: January 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM (#4041039)
Bert Macklin.
   52. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: January 20, 2012 at 10:55 AM (#4041045)
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
   53. zack Posted: January 20, 2012 at 11:30 AM (#4041077)
Now that my favorite MLB name turns out to be all a lie, who can claim the title?
   54. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4041115)
How about Blake Hawksworth?

Or if you want to stick with a Spanish name, Emilio Bonifacio.
   55. Swoboda is freedom Posted: January 20, 2012 at 11:59 AM (#4041119)
The name on his ID is McLovin.
   56. Walt Davis Posted: January 20, 2012 at 03:08 PM (#4041368)
Now that my favorite MLB name turns out to be all a lie, who can claim the title?

How about this guy

Or the .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

And they were teammates last year.
   57. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 20, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4041593)
Al Alburquerque? Oh, you mean Alberto José Alburquerque.
   58. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 21, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4041842)
Fausto Carmona: Heredia outed by mother of real Carmona

During an appearance on ESPN's "Outside the Lines" on Friday, Pedro Gomez reported that Fausto Carmona was outed several weeks ago on a popular radio show in Santo Domingo by the mother of the real Fausto Carmona.

According to the report, Carmona (aka Roberto Hernandez Heredia) had been paying the family of the real Carmona for the use of his identification and refused to increase payments after the Indians picked up his $7 million club option. The U.S. government subsequently began an investigation following the interview and arrested Heredia when he went to apply for his work visa earlier this week. The Indians have refused comment on the situation, saying only that they are in the process of "still gathering information."
   59. McCoy Posted: January 21, 2012 at 12:55 PM (#4041852)
I just don't understand the logic of killing the golden goose like that. I mean I know spite is a pretty powerful motivator and all but the mother just cut off revenue and what does she get out of it? A smirk?
   60. Swedish Chef Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:00 PM (#4041855)
I mean I know spite is a pretty powerful motivator and all but the mother just cut off revenue and what does she get out of it? A smirk?

Maybe the payments were something like $100 a year, and a smirk was totally worth it. In any case, if you threaten with the nuclear option, sometimes pulling the trigger is the right option.

During an appearance on ESPN's "Outside the Lines" on Friday, Pedro Gomez reported that Fausto Carmona was outed several weeks ago on a popular radio show in Santo Domingo by the mother of the real Fausto Carmona.

And in our ultra-connected world, not a word of this filtered out to the baseball media. There's a moral there, maybe, or something notable at least.
   61. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:08 PM (#4041857)
Well, at least we know there is a real Fausto Carmona out there somewhere.
   62. McCoy Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:12 PM (#4041860)
sometimes pulling the trigger is the right option.

How was it the right option here? They now get nothing. Or is it that perhaps they have sold several other of their names to other ballplayers and this will get them to pony up?
   63. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:26 PM (#4041870)
How was it the right option here?


Depends on a whole lot of stuff that we don't know. Maybe Heredia has paid a relative pittance until now and was refusing to pony up any more. The only leverage she has is the threat of exposure, so what else is she supposed to do if he tells her he thinks she's bluffing? If the choice is between getting nothing and getting revenge?
   64. McCoy Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4041873)
Again, she gains nothing by outing him and loses everything that she was getting or would ever get. Her leverage was the threat to do something not to actually do something. Once she does it she and her family are out of the game forever.

The thing to remember is that she went nuclear on herself and her family not on Heredia. Heredia has made over 15 million dollars so far in just salary and even if they void his contract he'll still probably make another million or so before he is done and have a great pension. What is going to happen to him isn't going to be pleasant but it just won't mean a lot to him and at the end of the day the Carmona family is now out of the picture.
   65. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:40 PM (#4041878)
Again, she gains nothing by outing him and loses everything that she was getting or would ever get. Her leverage was the threat to do something not to actually do something. Once she does it she and her family are out of the game forever.


There's a well known psychological/economic problem called The Ultimatum Game that goes as follows. You take two people. Person A is given a sum of money. He then must propose to split the money with person B in any way he sees fit (So he could say 95% for me 5% for you). Person B then must decide whether to accept the proposal or not. If he accepts, the money is divided. If he refuses, neither player gets anything.

Classic game theory says that Player B should accept whatever Player A proposes, as otherwise he gets nothing. However, when this scenario is played out with real people, that's not what happens. A large amount of player A's propose a 50:50 split, or something close to it. Those that offer too little a sum have their proposal refused. It seems that the average cutoff point is about 20% of the sum. If Player A offers less than that, Player B will usually refuse the deal, and neither gets anything. In one test in Indonesia, where Player A was given $100 to split, the other players regularly refused offers of less than $30, even though average per-capita income in Indonesia was only $670 per year. Check the link for more info.
   66. McCoy Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4041882)
I'm aware of the Ultimatum Game which is why I said spite is a pretty powerful thing. I'm saying that spite is also a pretty stupid thing to base your actions on. She outed Heredia and worst case scenario for him is that he pays a fine, does a little jail time, and no longer plays ball. He still made over 15 million dollars and has a great pension. She and her family still get nothing.
   67. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:56 PM (#4041888)
Man I hope nobody ever finds out my name is really Isaac and I live in the valley.

Seriously, can't we just keep calling him Fausto Carmona? We are full up on both Hernandezs and Heredii.
   68. Dr. Vaux Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:58 PM (#4041889)
It's possible that the Carmona family is part of some sort of group that sells identities to prospects, and that the group felt there was a lot at stake here, so they had to out Hernandez for refusing to increase payments. Now, the other players who are paying members of the group for their identities will have to increase their payments or risk the same fate. The Carmona family might then be getting paid off for this from some other source.
   69. Swedish Chef Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:06 PM (#4041894)
Again, she gains nothing by outing him and loses everything that she was getting or would ever get. Her leverage was the threat to do something not to actually do something. Once she does it she and her family are out of the game forever.

This option is most likely the last payday of Carmonas career anyway and this is the endgame, I can see her wanting several hundred thousand of the last windfall to keep quiet. If the former sum has been constant, she already has ten such payments. Getting another may be pretty small change.

To pose a creditable threat you have to seem willing to go through with it to the other side by flaunting your irrationality, but if you're really going to cave at the end you will send all manners of subtle hints of that, so it is much better to actually prepare to pull the trigger and then do it unless you're a great actor. Maybe the problem was that she didn't seem crazy enough to the other side.
   70. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:09 PM (#4041898)


Is the Carmona family not subject to any criminal penalties here? They did conspire to identity fraud.
   71. McCoy Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:13 PM (#4041900)
To pose a creditable threat you have to seem willing to go through with it to the other side by flaunting your irrationality, but if you're really going to cave at the end you will send all manners of subtle hints of that, so it is much better to actually prepare to pull the trigger and then do it unless you're a great actor. Maybe the problem was that she didn't seem crazy enough to the other side.

The key phrase is "creditable threat". How is it much better to pull the trigger? You still haven't explained that part. What did she gain? The problem is that for the most part she can't really hurt the other side. Heredia might lose A payday but not all paydays. She has not lost all future paydays.

If you want somebody to do something and you threaten their life killing them doesn't actually get you what you want.
   72. Tripon Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:15 PM (#4041902)
67. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: January 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM (#4041888)
Man I hope nobody ever finds out my name is really Isaac and I live in the valley.

Seriously, can't we just keep calling him Fausto Carmona? We are full up on both Hernandezs and Heredii.


Robert in Manhatten Beach is not your real name!?!?!?!?!
   73. Swedish Chef Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4041909)
If you want somebody to do something and you threaten their life killing them doesn't actually get you what you want.

No, but my miscalculation is smaller than theirs.
   74. McCoy Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:27 PM (#4041912)
And still doesn't get you what you want.
   75. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:30 PM (#4041913)
I'm aware of the Ultimatum Game which is why I said spite is a pretty powerful thing. I'm saying that spite is also a pretty stupid thing to base your actions on. She outed Heredia and worst case scenario for him is that he pays a fine, does a little jail time, and no longer plays ball. He still made over 15 million dollars and has a great pension. She and her family still get nothing.

The Maltese Falcon sums this up nicely (thanks to IMDB):

Sam Spade: If you kill me, how are you going get the bird? And if I know you can't afford to kill me, how are you going to scare me into giving it to you?
Kasper Gutman: Well, sir, there are other means of persuasion besides killing and threatening to kill.
Sam Spade: Yes, that's... That's true. But, there're none of them any good unless the threat of death is behind them. You see what I mean? If you start something, I'll make it a matter of your having to kill me or call it off.
Kasper Gutman: That's an attitude, sir, that calls for the most delicate judgment on both sides. Because, as you know, sir, in the heat of action men are likely to forget where their best interests lie and let their emotions carry them away.
Sam Spade: Then the trick from my angle is to make my play strong enough to tie you up, but not make you mad enough to bump me off against your better judgment.
   76. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 21, 2012 at 03:16 PM (#4041933)
she gains nothing by outing him and loses everything that she was getting or would ever get


You still assume that there was some other means by which she would gain something. How do we know that Heredia hadn't already cut her off completely and dared her to go to the authorities. You sum up the nothing to gain side well, but there's also the nothing to lose aspect to consider.

Is the Carmona family not subject to any criminal penalties here? They did conspire to identity fraud.


She went to the cops, not the press, right? Probably cut a deal.
   77. McCoy Posted: January 21, 2012 at 03:44 PM (#4041945)
Since Heredia is not dead there is always something to lose by outing him. Even if he said he isn't going to pay a penny more there is still a chance that going forward he will pay. This ends any chance of that happening.
   78. Joe Kehoskie Posted: January 21, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4041966)
It's one thing to adopt a fake name and/or age at age 17 and then stick with it to the bitter end, but it appears Carmona/Hernandez was part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy or criminal enterprise. I didn't like Oviedo's chances of getting a visa for 2012, but Carmona/Hernandez's odds have to be worse.
   79. Something Other Posted: January 21, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4042013)
I might finish it this spring. I'm excited. I have well over 300 pages of a draft written.
Excellent. Having bulk to work from and shape makes all the difference. It sucks when you haven't yet got the research done and at least a rough draft on paper.
   80. Dr. Vaux Posted: January 21, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4042017)
Yup. I had so many notes files when I started writing that even the writing process has been somewhat like a shaping process. I'm looking forward to the editing part, though.
   81. TomH Posted: January 21, 2012 at 08:18 PM (#4042053)
That's it. I am NOT sponsoring his bb-ref page.

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