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Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Felix Hernandez of Mariners pitches perfect game against Rays

On the downside, King Felix is 3 Wins ahead of his 2010 season pace…which doesn’t bode well for his Cy Young Award chances.

Although they are suffering through another last-place season, Seattle Mariners season-ticket holders have no reason to complain. On Wednesday, Mariners fans—those who showed up anyway—were treated to the second perfect game and third no-hitter at Safeco Field this season when Mariners ace Felix Hernandez shut down the Tampa Bay Rays.

Hernandez long has been considered a prime candidate to throw a no-hitter but outperformed even those lofty expectations by retiring all 27 Rays he faced in the 1-0 win. His was the first in Mariners history, the 23rd perfecto in the modern era and the third this season (Phil Humber, Matt Cain). Never before had more than two perfect games been thrown in one season.

Hernandez struck out 12 in the masterpiece, his fourth complete game of the season and his AL-best fourth shutout. Every Ray except leadoff man Sam Fuld struck out at least once Wednesday.

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   1. The Non-Catching Molina (sjs1959) Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:16 PM (#4209152)
The only person happier than Felix, the Mariners and their fans is Melky, who gets pushed off the front page everywhere but SF. Go King Felix.

I hope Dave Cameron saw this.
   2. PepTech Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:19 PM (#4209153)
Whooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   3. andrewberg Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:23 PM (#4209156)
I went to the game after the Gavin Floyd perfect game and the two games before the Felix perfect game.

Has a city ever hosted two perfect games in a year? Seems extremely unlikely.
   4. Guapo Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4209157)
Perfect games by decade:

1900's: 2
1910's: 0
1920's: 1
1930's: 0
1940's: 0
1950's: 1
1960's: 3
1970's: 0
1980's: 3
1990's: 4
2000's: 2

2010-2012: 5 (3 in 2012 alone)

*scratches head*
   5. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4209158)
I was wondering when we would get our annual "Rays get no-hit" game.
   6. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:30 PM (#4209165)
2010-2012: 5 (3 in 2012 alone)


Should be 6 of course.
   7. The Non-Catching Molina (sjs1959) Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:32 PM (#4209167)
Prepare for the room to get dusty, as this tweet from MLB_PR notes:

Dave Niehaus is trending worldwide due to so many tweeting that they wish he was here to see this. #Mariners #respect
   8. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:33 PM (#4209169)
In all the years I've played some form of fantasy baseball (roto, Scoresheet, whatever), I've never had a pitcher on my "roster" that threw a no-hitter (never mind a perfect game) during that season.

Until now...

Wooooooooo!
Go King Felix!
   9. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:34 PM (#4209172)
When we last discussed this, I dismissed the rise in no-hitters and perfect games in recent year as a statistical blip. But now it seems clear that there's something else going on here.

It seems odd that there weren't any perfect games in the offensively challenged 1970s.
   10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:36 PM (#4209174)
Hey! How bout a spoiler alert???? I was going to watch this on NBC tonight!
   11. Dale Sams Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4209178)
2010-2012: 5 (3 in 2012 alone


I was sure Kuroda was going to have a no-hitter last night, as impatient as some of the Rangers looked.
   12. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4209179)
I went to the game after the Gavin Floyd perfect game and the two games before the Felix perfect game.

Poor Phil Humber. First Felix calls him "Phil Hughes," and now he's called "Gavin Floyd" here.
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4209181)
Why isn't 6 events a statistical blip?
   14. TerpNats Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4209183)
Dave Niehaus is trending worldwide due to so many tweeting that they wish he was here to see this. #Mariners #respect
Which says something for the affection folks in the Pacific Northwest have for him. When Roy Halladay fired his perfect game, I don't recall any social networking about wishing Harry Kalas was here to see this (and Harry was as beloved in Phils phandom as Dave is in M's country), and Harry never called a perfect game. However, he was fortunate to call a Phillies World Series title in 2008 (something he couldn't do in 1980 because of a ridiculous, short-lived MLB policy prohibiting local radio WS play-by-play), so I suppose that made up for it.
   15. andrewberg Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:48 PM (#4209185)
Poor Phil Humber. First Felix calls him "Phil Hughes," and now he's called "Gavin Floyd" here.


Oops! I guess I picked the wrong imploded White Sox pitcher.
   16. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4209186)
Awesome. For all the crappy seasons and disappointments for the M's, Felix has really been a joy to watch.
   17.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4209188)
Well first of all, if you're going to call it six, for comparison purposes you would also have to go through every other game and determine if there are any other "should bes" in history. Otherwise it's only fair to go with five. Five in three years seems odd, but could certainly be a blip given the higher amount of teams in the league compared to pre-90's and the lower scoring environment compared to the 2000's. Controlling for that, I'd guess it's still a spike but probably not enough to determine something funky going on.

Anyway, good for Felix. A little bit of balance to numb the pain of Ichiro being a Yankee.
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4209191)
When we last discussed this, I dismissed the rise in no-hitters and perfect games in recent year as a statistical blip. But now it seems clear that there's something else going on here.

It seems odd that there weren't any perfect games in the offensively challenged 1970s.


Increase in the all or nothing approach to hitting combined with the deadening of the ball (due to lack of roids, or more likely the changes done to the bats) and an improvement in strikeout rates might be a combination for a perfect storm leading to more perfect games?
   19. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4209192)
Insofar as there's an underlying cause, I'd bet it's strikeout rate. Back in the 60s and 70s, the K-rate was between 5-6 K/9. Now it's risen over 7 K/9. The more strikeouts, the fewer times you need to get an out on a ball in play, the fewer times the perfect game or no-hitter is that the mercy of the added variance that comes along with every BIP.

The increase in the number of teams, which increases the number of games played, is probably also a significant cause.
   20. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4209193)
Well first of all, if you're going to call it six, for comparison purposes you would also have to go through every other game and determine if there are any other "should bes" in history.


I'm not aware of any other would be perfect games that weren't, due simply to a bad umpiring call.
   21. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4209196)
I was out at one of my rental properties, got in my car to run an errand, and it was the 7th inning. Immediately headed for home, about 20 minutes away. Thought about trying to find a sports bar instead, but home seemed the better bet.

I pulled up in front with 2 outs and a 2-2 count on the batter. Decided to run inside and hope to get the TV on in time to see the final out. Saw the scrum instead.

But what a great day for Seattle baseball.
   22. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4209198)
I'm not aware of any other would be perfect games that weren't, due simply to a bad umpiring call.


Even if there were games where all that stood between 27 up, 27 down was a botched call, the Galarraga game was different in that it was the last play. There's no need to ask what might have happened differently had the call been correct. If Joyce doesn't kick the #### out of it, it's undeniably a perfect game.
   23. Papa Squid Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4209199)
In all the years I've played some form of fantasy baseball (roto, Scoresheet, whatever), I've never had a pitcher on my "roster" that threw a no-hitter (never mind a perfect game) during that season.


I had Halladay, Dallas Braden, and now King Felix, King of New Ho Kings.
   24. rlc Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4209210)
I'm not aware of any other would be perfect games that weren't, due simply to a bad umpiring call.


You should buy Milt Pappas a beer sometime.
   25.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4209211)
I had Matt Cain this year, but traded him before his perfect game. I think that's worse :)
   26. UCCF Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4209213)
I'm not aware of any other would be perfect games that weren't, due simply to a bad umpiring call.

Milt Pappas would like a word with you. And that word is motherfricking-SOB-Froemming-son-of-a-million-whores.

(Note: these were ball and strike calls, and questionable at best. And if Pappas hadn't gone all Alou/Bartman in his reaction during and after the game, it probably would have been lost to history except as a mild footnote.)
   27. UCCF Posted: August 15, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4209214)
Oops. That's an Old Style for rlc.
   28. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4209233)

I had the (fantasy baseball) luck not only to stream Phil Humber for his perfect game but to drop him before he actually pitched it. Otherwise I'm sure I would have held on to him far too long.

Also - Old Style! Excellent choice.
   29. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:16 PM (#4209234)
I'm not aware of any other would be perfect games that weren't, due simply to a bad umpiring call.



You should buy Milt Pappas a beer sometime.


That was a good call. Or at worst, a borderline and thus defensible call. Not in the same time zone as Joyce.
   30. AndrewJ Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:18 PM (#4209236)
I was wondering when we would get our annual "Rays get no-hit" game.

Between 1960 and 1972, the Phillies were no-hit eight times. Since April 1978, they haven't been no-hit at all.
   31. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:27 PM (#4209247)
congrats to mr hernandez and i am glad for fans of the m's and baseball in general

though we need to get back to contact hitting. this boom or bust sh8t is going to get mighty boring mighty quick. 60's baseball sucked like a hoover on high and i see where this train is headed

   32.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:37 PM (#4209257)
I'm not aware of any other would be perfect games that weren't, due simply to a bad umpiring call.


Exactly, you're not aware of any. Just like most people in 25 years won't be aware of Galarraga.
   33. PreservedFish Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4209267)
Exactly, you're not aware of any. Just like most people in 25 years won't be aware of Galarraga.


Oh, who cares? Let's pretend that there were games exactly like Galarraga/Joyce in 1924, 1943 and 1978. Does this change that chart in any meaningful way?
   34. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:45 PM (#4209268)
If you want to count Galarraga's perfect game, then you can't count Santana's no-hitter.
   35. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4209270)
Exactly, you're not aware of any. Just like most people in 25 years won't be aware of Galarraga.


Galarraga's game will be remembered as long as Haddix and Ernie Shore.

Edit: And even if there were and I didn't remember it, Jayson Stark would have been sure to remind us. I seriously, seriously doubt anyone beside Galarraga lost a perfect game on a blown call on the 27th out.
   36.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4209273)
Oh, who cares? Let's pretend that there were games exactly like Galarraga/Joyce in 1924, 1943 and 1978. Does this change that chart in any meaningful way?


It was a minor point that I felt worth making; I as just pointing out that it wasn't a logically valid thing to do. Sure it may not make much difference in the end, but I felt it worth pointing out that it isn't really a valid practice in my opinion. Why be a jerk about it?
   37.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4209274)
Galarraga's game will be remembered as long as Haddix and Ernie Shore.


Who is Ernie Shore?
   38. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4209280)
Who is Ernie Shore?


Cute.
   39. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4209283)
It was a minor point that I felt worth making; I as just pointing out that it wasn't a logically valid thing to do. Sure it may not make much difference in the end, but I felt it worth pointing out that it isn't really a valid practice. Why be a jerk about it?


I don't think Misirlou's Post 6 was suggesting the chart was incorrect. Just that, in a world where Joyce doesn't screw up, he's also on it. That he earned a perfect game, not that it should be credited as one.

Who is Ernie Shore?


Red Sox pitcher. Relieved Babe Ruth when Babe got tossed after walking the first batter. Picked off baserunner (I think) and then retired all 26 batters.
   40. PreservedFish Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4209284)
I'm not a jerk.
   41. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 15, 2012 at 08:59 PM (#4209291)
pf

is that your nixon impersonation?
   42.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:04 PM (#4209295)
Cute.


I was entirely serious. Thanks SoSH for the background.
   43. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:24 PM (#4209313)
I was entirely serious. Thanks SoSH for the background.

OK, if this is genuine from a regular baseball nerd on this site, then....

Galarraga's game will be remembered as long as Haddix and Ernie Shore.

there is no way this will be remembered. None. The blown call aspect(even as the 27th out), for me, just doesn't have the unique identity that the Haddix 12+ inning perfecto or Shore's pick off, then 26 guys up and 26 guys down scenario has. That's why they are remembered.
   44. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:26 PM (#4209315)
In all the years I've played some form of fantasy baseball (roto, Scoresheet, whatever), I've never had a pitcher on my "roster" that threw a no-hitter (never mind a perfect game) during that season.


Only pitcher I ever had who threw a no-no was Darryl Kile.

A few years later, of course, he was dead.

I guess I hope I never have another one.
   45. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:31 PM (#4209318)
there is no way this will be remembered. None. The blown call aspect(even as the 27th out), for me, just doesn't have the unique identity that the Haddix 12+ inning perfecto or Shore's pick off, then 26 guys up and 26 guys down scenario has. That's why they are remembered.


I dunno. I think an umpire blowing a perfectly easy and obvious if close play at first for out #27 is a pretty big hook.
   46. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:43 PM (#4209333)
OK, if this is genuine from a regular baseball nerd on this site, then....


Galarraga's game will be remembered as long as Haddix and Ernie Shore.

there is no way this will be remembered. None. The blown call aspect(even as the 27th out), for me, just doesn't have the unique identity that the Haddix 12+ inning perfecto or Shore's pick off, then 26 guys up and 26 guys down scenario has. That's why they are remembered.

To build on something Dag said in an earlier thread, it's worth noting that Shore's game happened almost 100 years ago. Even if today it has been forgotten by even some of us, it was remembered for an awfully long time. The same, I think, will be true of Galarraga's (it will at least be remembered long after the ones tossed by Dallas Braden and Phil Humber and Matt Cain have been forgotten).

   47. bookbook Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:44 PM (#4209334)
So, now that Felix has been removed from contention, who is the best ever pitcher to never throw a no-hitter? (No, Mariano Rivera doesn't count.)
   48. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:45 PM (#4209336)
So, now that Felix has been removed from contention, who is the best ever pitcher to never throw a no-hitter?


Active, or all time?
   49. AndrewJ Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:49 PM (#4209339)
So, now that Felix has been removed from contention, who is the best ever pitcher to never throw a no-hitter?

Historically, pick-a-Phillie: Pete Alexander, Robin Roberts and Steve Carlton never threw a no-no.
   50. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:50 PM (#4209341)

there is no way this [Galarraga's game] will be remembered. None. The blown call aspect(even as the 27th out), for me, just doesn't have the unique identity that the Haddix 12+ inning perfecto or Shore's pick off, then 26 guys up and 26 guys down scenario has. That's why they are remembered.


Um, no. Given that there's full video of it, a book about it co-authored by the principals involved, and its having an even simpler narrative hook than the Haddix or Shore games, it will be remembered.
   51.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:51 PM (#4209342)
Clemens never threw a no-hitter.

Pedro Martinez never threw a no-hitter, although he threw a Haddix.
   52. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:52 PM (#4209345)
Maddux too.
   53. cardsfanboy Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:53 PM (#4209352)
So, now that Felix has been removed from contention, who is the best ever pitcher to never throw a no-hitter?


I imagine Maddux or Clemens tops the list of all timers.

Active pitchers, Chris Carpenter has never thrown a no hitter. (he's not active this year but still).
   54. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 15, 2012 at 09:58 PM (#4209357)
For active pitchers, I'd have to go with Sabathia, even before today.
   55.   Posted: August 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4209365)
Sid Fernandez is the pitcher with the lowest BA against (min. 200 starts) who never threw a no-hitter.

The leaders in BAA are whom you'd expect. Batters hit .204 off Nolan Ryan, and .205 off Sandy Koufax. Then there's Sid, third place at .206 and no no-nos to show.

But that's what he gets for playing for the Mets.

Active, the players with the lowest BA against are Cain (yep), Santana (yep), Verlander (yep), and Peavy (No?)

Somewhat surprisingly, Barry Zito's BA against is the same as Felix's in over 150 more starts. He hasn't thrown one eiter.
   56. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 15, 2012 at 10:09 PM (#4209373)
if cc hadn't fielded that dribbler from andy laroche with a la de da approach he would have a no hitter in pittsburgh

   57. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: August 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM (#4209378)
Insofar as there's an underlying cause, I'd bet it's strikeout rate.

That and random chance pretty much sum up my POV. And I totally agree with Harvey in his wish for more contact hitting.
   58. Gamingboy Posted: August 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM (#4209413)

there is no way this [Galarraga's game] will be remembered. None. The blown call aspect(even as the 27th out), for me, just doesn't have the unique identity that the Haddix 12+ inning perfecto or Shore's pick off, then 26 guys up and 26 guys down scenario has. That's why they are remembered.



Um, no. Given that there's full video of it, a book about it co-authored by the principals involved, and its having an even simpler narrative hook than the Haddix or Shore games, it will be remembered.


Ken Burns is also on record as saying it's what will start his "11th Inning" of Baseball when he gets around to it in a decade or two.
   59. bobm Posted: August 16, 2012 at 12:17 AM (#4209421)
No Hitters, by season
(From 1918 to 2012, Team Won, (requiring H=0 and IPouts>=27), sorted by greatest Performances matching selected criteria in a Season)

                   
Rk   Year #Matching
1    1991         7
1    1990         7
                   
3    1969         6
                   
4    2012         5
4    2010         5
4    1973         5
4    1968         5
4    1962         5
                   
9    1976         4
9    1970         4
9    1951         4
                   
12   2011         3
12   2007         3
12   2001         3
12   1999         3
12   1996         3
12   1994         3
12   1993         3
12   1983         3
12   1981         3
12   1977         3
12   1975         3
12   1974         3
12   1972         3
12   1971         3
Rk   Year #Matching
12   1967         3
12   1965         3
12   1963         3
12   1960         3
12   1956         3
12   1952         3
12   1947         3
12   1938         3
   60. zenbitz Posted: August 16, 2012 at 12:37 AM (#4209425)
So, 5 no-hitters doesn't seem that weird but obviously 3 perfectos is. What are the average number of BB / ROE as a function of time? Or put another way, if BB/ROE were distributed randomly in no-hitters, what rate of perfect games would you expect (hey a t-test could be done too).

It seems impossible that the number of BBs has decreased historically, but I think the number of errors has - although not so recently.

And harveys - was that a J. Edgar reference?
   61. bobm Posted: August 16, 2012 at 12:37 AM (#4209426)
Regular season perfect games

                   
Rk   Year #Matching
1    2012         3

2    2010         2
                   
3    2009         1
3    2004         1
3    1999         1
3    1998         1
3    1994         1
3    1991         1
3    1988         1
3    1984         1
3    1981         1
3    1968         1
3    1965         1
3    1964         1
3    1922         1
   62. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 16, 2012 at 12:44 AM (#4209430)
Going through the BBRef leaderboards:
(At least 10 seasons pitching, starters only)

WAR
All-time: Roger Clemens
Active: Andy Pettitte

ERA
All-time: Mordecai Brown
Active: Tim Hudson

Wins
All-time: Pete Alexander
Active: Jamie Moyer

IP
All-time: Don Sutton
Active: Jamie Moyer

Strikeouts
All-time: Steve Carlton
Active: Jamie Moyer

WHIP
All-time: Pedro Martinez
Active: Jake Peavy

   63. bobm Posted: August 16, 2012 at 01:20 AM (#4209438)
[46] there is no way this will be remembered. None. The blown call aspect(even as the 27th out), for me, just doesn't have the unique identity that the Haddix 12+ inning perfecto or Shore's pick off, then 26 guys up and 26 guys down scenario has. That's why they are remembered.

From wikipedia:


Perfect games spoiled by the 27th batter

On ten occasions in Major League Baseball history, a perfect game has been spoiled when the batter representing what would have been the third and final out in the ninth inning reached base.

Unless otherwise noted, the pitcher in question finished and won the game without allowing any more baserunners:

* On July 4, 1908, Hooks Wiltse of the New York Giants hit Philadelphia Phillies pitcher George McQuillan with a pitch on a 2–2 count in a scoreless game—the only time a 0–0 perfect game has been broken
up by the 27th batter. Umpire Cy Rigler later admitted that he should have called the previous pitch strike 3. Wiltse pitched on, winning 1–0; his ten-inning no-hitter set a record for longest
complete game no-hitter that has been tied twice but never broken.
* On August 5, 1932, Tommy Bridges of the Detroit Tigers gave up a pinch-hit single to the Washington Senators' Dave Harris.
* On June 27, 1958, Billy Pierce of the Chicago White Sox gave up a double, which landed just inches in fair territory, on his first pitch to Senators pinch hitter Ed Fitz Gerald.
* On September 2, 1972, Milt Pappas of the Chicago Cubs walked San Diego Padres pinch hitter Larry Stahl on a borderline 3–2 pitch. Pappas finished with a no-hitter. The umpire, Bruce Froemming, was in
his second year; he went on to a 37-year career in which he umpired a record 11 no-hitters. Pappas believed he had struck out Stahl, and years later continued to bear ill will toward Froemming.
* On April 15, 1983, Milt Wilcox of the Tigers surrendered a pinch-hit single to the White Sox' Jerry Hairston, Sr.
* On May 2, 1988, Ron Robinson of the Cincinnati Reds gave up a single to the Montreal Expos' Wallace Johnson. Robinson then allowed a two-run homer to Tim Raines and was removed from the game. The final
score was 3–2, with Robinson the winner. (Robinson's teammate Tom Browning threw his perfect game later that season.)
* On August 4, 1989, Dave Stieb of the Toronto Blue Jays gave up a double to the New York Yankees' Roberto Kelly, followed by an RBI single by Steve Sax. Stieb finished with a 2–1 victory. This was the
* third time Stieb had a no-hitter broken up with two outs in the ninth inning.
* On April 20, 1990, Brian Holman of the Seattle Mariners gave up a home run to Ken Phelps of the Oakland Athletics.
* On September 2, 2001, Mike Mussina of the Yankees gave up a two-strike single to Boston Red Sox pinch hitter Carl Everett. The opposing pitcher in the game was David Cone, who had thrown the most
recent perfect game two years earlier as a Yankee. ...
* On June 2, 2010, Armando Galarraga of the Tigers was charged with a single when first-base umpire Jim Joyce incorrectly ruled Jason Donald of the Cleveland Indians safe on an infield grounder. After
the game, Joyce acknowledged his mistake

[Emphasis added]


Also noteworthy:

Nine or more consecutive innings of perfection

There have been fourteen occasions in Major League Baseball history when a pitcher—or, in one case, multiple pitchers—recorded at least 27 consecutive outs after one or more runners reached base. In four instances, the game went into extra innings and the pitcher(s) recorded more than 27 consecutive outs ...

In the ten other instances, the leadoff batter (or batters) reached base in the first inning, followed by 27 consecutive batters (or batters and baserunners) being retired through the end of a nine-inning game. In one case, the leadoff baserunner was retired, meaning the pitcher faced the minimum:

* On June 30, 1908, Red Sox pitcher Cy Young walked the New York Highlanders' leadoff batter, Harry Niles, who was caught stealing. No one else reached base against Young, who also had three hits and four RBIs in Boston's 8–0 win. It was the third no-hitter of Young's career and about as close as possible to being his second perfect game. He is the only pitcher in major league history to retire 27 consecutive men in a game on two separate occasions. ...

In Major League Baseball play since 1893, with the essential modern rules in place, there have been eight instances when a pitcher allowed not a single baserunner through his pitching efforts over a complete game of at least nine innings, but was not awarded a perfect game because of fielding errors


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_game
   64. Walt Davis Posted: August 16, 2012 at 02:11 AM (#4209446)
Took a while but the Haddix and Pedro examples were raised. Obviously from a probability perspective, those count as 9-inning perfect games.

One could further argue that you'd really need to look for all instances where a pitcher (or at least a starter) threw 9 consecutive perfect innings across games to see if that rate has really changed. It's possible that happens at the same rate it always has and it is just blind luck that this year 3 of those instances have been 9 consecutive in one game. (Note, I'm still not 100% sure I've got that phrased right but you get my point.)

But the number of teams thing (and expanded schedule compared to pre-expansion) makes those numbers seem not quite so bizarre. Three in one year is certainly quite unlikely but 2 in 2010 doesn't look particularly odd given 30 teams vs. 26/24 vs. 16 (and 154 games).

But yeah, I'm starting to wonder what you folks have done to this game with your 6 foot high strike zones and 5-foot high mounds.
   65. bookbook Posted: August 16, 2012 at 06:05 PM (#4209960)
Petite isn't/wasn't as good a pitcher as Sabathia/Hernandez, AND he toiled in front of a fairly poor defense for many years with the Yanks. I'd argue that Sabathia and Hernandez are close enough to equally good as makes no never mind. (Sabathia's most similar pitcher through age 25: Dennis Eckersley. Hernandez's most similar through age 26: Eckersley.)

   66. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 16, 2012 at 06:35 PM (#4209980)
Three in one year is certainly quite unlikely but 2 in 2010 doesn't look particularly odd given 30 teams vs. 26/24 vs. 16 (and 154 games).


Three in one year could be a blip. Two in one year wouldn't even be worth talking about. But we've also now got five in (less than) three years, and six in four years (not counting Galarraga). Throughout the entire 20th century, the record for a four-year span was two.
   67. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: August 16, 2012 at 08:52 PM (#4210059)
On May 2, 1988, Ron Robinson of the Cincinnati Reds gave up a single to the Montreal Expos' Wallace Johnson.


I was at this game. I will certainly always remember it.
   68. Sunday silence Posted: August 17, 2012 at 12:03 AM (#4210162)
wouldnt a bigger data set be one hitters? If you saw substantial rise in them in the last decade it would have more statistical validity.

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