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Thursday, April 19, 2012

Fenway Park - The Renovations That Did Not Happen

“You know the Fenway Park Hippocratic Oath? We make people who work on Fenway Park work on the Fenway Park version of the Hippocratic Oath,” said Sox CEO/President Larry Lucchino. “Rule 1: Do no harm, which is what the Hippocratic Oath says to doctors.”

“We talked about seats in front of the bullpen, little round stool seats with another wall in front,” said COO Sam Kennedy. “But we didn’t think it made sense to dramatically alter the dimensions and change the layout of the ballpark.”

There were numerous off-the-wall ideas, some of them literally qualifying for such a designation. That was the case with an idea to install opera boxes that would have hung from the brick wall adjacent to the Monster Seats, behind the camera well and bleachers in left-center, below the Bank of America pitch count scoreboard.

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   1. Boxkutter Posted: April 19, 2012 at 03:23 PM (#4110758)
"...it's a dump."
   2. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: April 19, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4110844)
I though they would have done something with that building behind the right field bleachers.
   3. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 19, 2012 at 04:39 PM (#4110846)
I though they would have done something with that building behind the right field bleachers.


That actually gets discussed in TFA. They thought about trying to create a Wrigley-style rooftop there but it didn't happen.
   4. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: April 19, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4110854)
Yeah, I saw that. I just meant that often I would look out there and wonder "why not?" It would be only a about 30 feet behind the last row and you could sell the access like at Wrigley rooftop's or the Bud seats.
   5. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: April 19, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4110941)
The one that will always bother me is that when McCourt and his group were trying to buy the Red Sox, they publicized and then patented a cantilevered deck to replace the old upper deck. The new upper deck would have been great because it would have meant no obstructed views and much more seating. He made sure--and I remember this from comments at the time--that if he couldn't have the Sox, then whoever bought them would have to live with the existing upper deck. Frank McCourt is an #######.
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 19, 2012 at 09:07 PM (#4110994)
Probably could put a fancy restaurant behind a plexiglas Green Monster . . . might require a fair amount of disinfectant though.
   7. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 19, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4111042)
The one that will always bother me is that when McCourt and his group were trying to buy the Red Sox, they publicized and then patented a cantilevered deck to replace the old upper deck. The new upper deck would have been great because it would have meant no obstructed views and much more seating. He made sure--and I remember this from comments at the time--that if he couldn't have the Sox, then whoever bought them would have to live with the existing upper deck. Frank McCourt is an #######.
You think a Frank McCourt patented invention wouldn't have collapsed mid-game and killed thousands, with stray debris lodging in Pedro Martinez' shoulder?

It is terrifying how close he came to destroying the Red Sox.
   8. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 19, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4111049)
Probably could put a fancy restaurant behind a plexiglas Green Monster . . . might require a fair amount of disinfectant though.


There's already a sports bar in there somewhere, isn't there?
   9. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: April 19, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4111055)
There is a sports bar where the gate in CF is that opens up when there is no game. Although I have never heard a single person talk about the place, so it might have closed.

How could they build a anything behind a plexiglass Green Monster? It would be over Landsdowne at like 15 feet and extend into that garage.
   10. Flynn Posted: April 20, 2012 at 04:15 AM (#4111086)
The Bleacher Bar. My uncle goes there for lunch sometimes and likes it. It's not bad, though pricey.
   11. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 20, 2012 at 04:19 AM (#4111087)
I actually like the idea of the opera boxes.
   12. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 20, 2012 at 06:05 AM (#4111098)
Interesting article. It's nice to see that Hippocratic Oath concept applied to Fenway, and if anyone thinks that isn't important, all they have to do is to read all those "tear it down" comments from the self-described season ticket holders. AFAIC Lucchino is walking the line between tradition and revenue enhancement, and after seeing some of those suggestions that were tossed into the dump heap, he seems to be doing a pretty good job of it.

That McCourt "cantilevered upper deck" is a real beaut of an idea: Graft a completely different upper deck onto the traditional lower deck, and for the sake of 100% non-obstructed view seats you get thousands of seats that are much further away from the field than they are now. There are 28 other stadiums where people who like that sort of thing can go, and for once McCourt did an inadvertent good deed by patenting the idea and making sure that nobody else can use it.

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