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Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Five more Biogenesis names; Gio Gonzalez received no PEDs

ESPN.com’s T.J. Quinn and Mike Fish, citing documents procured by “Outside the Lines,” add five names to the list of ballplayers linked to Anthony Bosch’s controversial Biogenesis clinic.

Those names are Padres shortstop Everth Cabrera , Astros outfielder Fernando Martinez, A’s reliever Jordan Norberto, Padres reliever Fautino De Los Santos and Mets prospect Cesar Puello. Here’s the heart of the matter regarding these five players:

  Sources said the players, like those who have been named in previous Biogenesis documents, were on a list as having received performance-enhancing drugs, although the documents are not proof that the players either received or used PEDs.

Also within Quinn’s and Fish’s piece is this important note about Nationals lefty Gio Gonzalez, who was named in the original Miami New Times report:

  According to two sources familiar with Bosch’s operation, however, the Washington Nationals’ Gio Gonzalez, previously identified as being named in Biogenesis documents, did not receive banned substances from Bosch or the clinic.

Thanks to eddie.

Repoz Posted: February 19, 2013 at 10:17 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM (#4372334)
Opening Day can't come soon enough.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: February 19, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4372337)
According to two sources familiar with Bosch’s operation...Gio Gonzalez...did not receive banned substances from Bosch or the clinic.


Irrefutable proof.
   3. boteman Posted: February 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM (#4372367)
Sources said the players...were on a list as having received performance-enhancing drugs, although the documents are not proof that the players either received or used PEDs.

Clear as mud. They're on a list as "having received", but there is no proof that they "received". So the list is worthless.

Why are we wasting our time with this wild goose chase again?
   4. KJOK Posted: February 20, 2013 at 12:27 AM (#4372377)
I actually got one right on the 'prediction' thread of the next names:


14. KJOK Posted: February 07, 2013 at 12:23 AM (#4364692)

My money is on that muscle god Blake Tekotte.
Well, he is the only one left I think that is a client of ACES and went to Univ of Fla.

Some other guesses:
Juaquin Benoit
Shane Victorino
Raul Ibanez
Placido Polanco
Marlon Byrd
Brandon Phillips
Heath Bell
Everth Cabrera
   5. Bourbon Samurai Posted: February 20, 2013 at 03:14 AM (#4372402)
As a nats fan, I'll take it
   6. Bitter Mouse Posted: February 20, 2013 at 07:55 AM (#4372423)
Why are we wasting our time with this wild goose chase again?


Think of the children! Or something. Opening day. Please.
   7. Publius Publicola Posted: February 20, 2013 at 08:06 AM (#4372434)
I think this might be the first time that a player denied using PEDs after his name was discovered in a customer log and it turned out he might be telling the truth.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 20, 2013 at 09:01 AM (#4372452)
SOMEONE CHECK HIS BACK ACNE FIRST
   9. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: February 20, 2013 at 09:19 AM (#4372464)
Serious question: What services did Bosch offer that were on the straight and narrow?

IIRC, BALCO had an entire operation of perfectly legal, state of the art health measures like specialized vitamin & exercise regimens and all sorts of sleep and blood monitoring (not that anybody who was interested in those services turned down the other stuff, too.)
   10. ecwcat Posted: February 20, 2013 at 10:02 AM (#4372500)
Serious question: What services did Bosch offer that were on the straight and narrow?


Cutting edge diet plans and undetectable legal substances.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: February 20, 2013 at 03:27 PM (#4372861)
Bosch was running an anti-aging clinic offering all sorts of silly stuff to whoever was willing to pay -- some of those regular folks were the sources for the original article. Sometimes it really is flaxseed oil.
   12. Ron J2 Posted: February 20, 2013 at 03:35 PM (#4372872)
Sometimes it really is flaxseed oil.


And considering how seedy some of these operators are, there's a non-zero probability of getting flaxseed oil (or some other cheap substitute) while paying for some form of PED.
   13. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: February 20, 2013 at 03:46 PM (#4372892)
Sometimes it really is flaxseed oil.


I suppose you're right, but this begs the question of "why not just ask the team trainer?" It would seem to me that a player looking to get a legal edge would be best off just asking either a team trainer/doctor or someone in a similar capacity attached to the Union.

I can't help but root for Gio here. I'm certainly no PED dove, but this has devolved into a witch hunt (for some time now.)
   14. Moeball Posted: February 20, 2013 at 06:45 PM (#4373027)
Some other guesses:
Juaquin Benoit
Shane Victorino
Raul Ibanez
Placido Polanco
Marlon Byrd
Brandon Phillips
Heath Bell
Everth Cabrera


As a Padres fan, this is positively laughable how many of our players keep showing up on these lists (but no Chase Headley...yet).

The most laughable thing, however, was when Marlon Byrd started off last season so poorly for the Cubs (3 singles in 43 AB before they dumped him on the Bosox - that's right, 3 more hits than I had at the time) - then Byrd's name turned up for PEDs and he actually held a press conference declaring that he wasn't taking any performance-enhancing substances. Well it was painfully obvious that whatever he was taking wasn't enhancing his performance, so he should have gotten his money back!

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