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Tuesday, April 23, 2019

For the third time this season, the Orioles have put a position player on the mound

It is rarely a good situation when a team has a position player take the mound. Usually, it’s because one team is losing by plenty of runs, and don’t want to waste a bullpen arm on a game that has already been decided.

For the Orioles, a lot more has gone wrong than right thus far in 2019. They are 1-10 at home, and only two teams in all of baseball have a worse overall record.

On Monday, Baltimore was blown out by the Chicago White Sox, 12-2, behind three different four-run innings. With the game well in hand, the Orioles put catcher Jesus Sucre on the mound to pitch the ninth.

Wondering who this is more telling about- the Orioles, or relievers….

 

QLE Posted: April 23, 2019 at 04:35 AM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: orioles, position players pitching

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   1. DL from MN Posted: April 23, 2019 at 09:19 AM (#5834365)
Watching the Twins beat up on the Orioles was not all that entertaining. It seems like a random collection of has-beens and never-will-bes.
   2. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: April 23, 2019 at 09:30 AM (#5834371)
Hey, the Twins are hitting .277/.345/.512 on the season!
   3. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: April 23, 2019 at 09:34 AM (#5834373)
Guys, I'm starting to think Baltimore might not be a real strong club this year.
   4. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: April 23, 2019 at 10:47 AM (#5834412)
I watched the game. Sucre baffled the Sox hitters with his 60 MPH knuckleball.
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 23, 2019 at 04:05 PM (#5834544)
Looks like the Orioles “Exceeding Expectations” phase may have been short-lived. They were 5-5 on April 8; since then 3-11.
   6. Hank Gillette Posted: April 23, 2019 at 05:12 PM (#5834594)
Looks like the Orioles “Exceeding Expectations” phase may have been short-lived.


Chris Davis is sitting at .130/.217/.242 and -0.5 WAR. I’m not sure if that is exceeding expectations or not. Despite the money he is getting, I feel a little sympathy for him. It has to be hard to really suck at your job, and have to do it in public where everyone knows you suck at your job and feels free to express that loudly.

On the “bright side” he is only the 20th worst player right now by WAR (four-way tie), and he is not the worst on his team. That honor goes to rookie shortstop Richie Martin.

   7. Cris E Posted: April 23, 2019 at 05:16 PM (#5834598)
On the other hand Chris Davis is finding ways to contribute: between his inning on the mound this weekend and his lemon pound cake the guys are happy he's still around. OK I made up the pound cake, I'm not sure he can bake at all. And he didn't pitch well either. Let's just forget I mentioned anything.

Edit: Fine Hank, go ahead and make a serious post while I'm typing gibberish.)
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 23, 2019 at 05:27 PM (#5834603)
Looks like the Orioles “Exceeding Expectations” phase may have been short-lived. They were 5-5 on April 8; since then 3-11.
I don't know what your expectations for the Orioles are, but they're clearly too high.
   9. RMc accompanies the Griffmen to Augusta Posted: April 23, 2019 at 08:49 PM (#5834660)
OK I made up the pound cake, I'm not sure he can bake at all.

Well, let's just say he can. He's already sitting on a -0.5 WAR after 19 games, which puts him at around -4 over a full season. How good of a cake do you have to bake to make up for that?

I don't think lemon pound cake is nearly enough, guys. It's gotta be chocolate, maybe a triple-layer cake with cream frosting. If he baked one of those every day...well, that just might justify keeping him around.
   10. escabeche Posted: April 23, 2019 at 10:15 PM (#5834694)
Davis, after his 0-for-everything start, is batting .360 and slugging .720 since April 13. Andrew Cashner had another good start tonight. Nobody's saying this is a good team but it just doesn't feel like a historically bad one. Now what happens if they decide to trade everyone with any value at midseason is a different story, maybe.
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 23, 2019 at 10:18 PM (#5834695)
Well, let's just say he can. He's already sitting on a -0.5 WAR after 19 games, which puts him at around -4 over a full season. How good of a cake do you have to bake to make up for that?

I don't think lemon pound cake is nearly enough, guys. It's gotta be chocolate, maybe a triple-layer cake with cream frosting. If he baked one of those every day...well, that just might justify keeping him around.
Paging OG...where are you, OG?
   12. Omineca Greg Posted: April 24, 2019 at 12:37 AM (#5834756)
I'm glad to hear that Chris Davis has found a way to help his team, even if it is only through the pastry arts.

I know firsthand the siren call (I mean sirens like those hot naked ladies with seductive voices, not those terrible noisy things ambulances have on top...the sirens on top of ambulances save lives and make whole what is broken...and the sirens of the Tyrrhenian Sea lead sailors to their annihilation, promising ecstasy, but delivering only rent flesh (not "rent" like the flesh you can hire for short periods of time à la Charlie Sheen, but "rent" like "rended")) of Baking.

But upon reflection, maybe the Baking trade is like both types of sirens, making whole and mutilating at once, two dancers perfectly in step, one with shining radiance, the other with mumbled apologies and half forgotten dreams, every ambition denied and every fantasy twisted from ebullience to anguish.

That is the life of a Baker.

So that Chris Davis turns to us as his career sours and curdles is no surprise. Every Baker can tell a tale like Chris', of course not on that scale usually, who among us has known his highs and lows, indeed, who among has been so handsomely rewarded for such shoddy work, and even if there is something degrading about a man getting paid millions of dollars (American dollars too...they're the best kind!) to publicly flail about hopelessly at a challenge he had once mastered, there is also an odd Cervantesian dignity.

The feeling of grinding the gears of the 140 quart mixer in the middle of the night while the civilians sleep safe in their beds, their somnolence untroubled by even the slightest possibility that they could awake to find only empty shelves where by all rights, cakes, pastries, breads, and other high quality and nutritious baked goods should be available, it is a peculiar pleasure known to only a few. Chris has found the beauty in this, that paradoxically, in humble service comes the highest nobility, to watch eyes widening at the dessert table over something you've slaved over, both in years of practice and honing of craft, but also each individual item, I think Chris will find this every bit as satisfying as hitting dingers.

I hope he does, anyway. His dinger days are numbered.

As Shakespeare's Κλεοπᾰ́τρᾱ said " My salad days,
When I was green in judgment, cold in blood,
To say as I said then."

His salad days are over.

But his Baked Goods days have just begun.

Long afloat on shipless oceans
I did all my best to smile
'Til your singing eyes and fingers
Drew me loving to your isle

And you sang
Sail to me, sail to me
Let me enfold you
Here I am, here I am
Waiting to hold you

Did I dream you dreamed about me?
Were you hare when I was fox?
Now my foolish boat is leaning
Broken lovelorn on your rocks

For you sing
'Touch me not, touch me not
Come back tomorrow
Oh, my heart, oh, my heart
Shies from the sorrow'

I am as puzzled as the oyster
I am as troubled at the tide
Should I stand amid the breakers?
Or should I lie with death my bride?

Hear me sing
'Swim to me, swim to me
Let me enfold you
Oh, my heart, oh, my heart
Is waiting to hold you'

Beckett/Buckley

Second best episode of The Monkees ever!
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 24, 2019 at 01:00 AM (#5834758)
Wow. Cervantes, Shakespeare, and a "Song to the Siren" reference. Better OG post than I could have imagined, which is saying quite a bit. Well done, sir.
   14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 24, 2019 at 01:08 AM (#5834762)
Davis had 2 hits today, including a HR, and broke the .150 BA barrier - now at .156. The Mendoza Line is almost in sight.
   15. RMc accompanies the Griffmen to Augusta Posted: April 24, 2019 at 06:54 AM (#5834772)
The Mendoza Line is almost in sight.

Funnily enough, Mario is one of only three players in history to get 400 PA in a season and have an OPS+ of 25 (Davis' current number) or worse:

*Jim Lillie, 1886 Kansas City Cowboys; OPS+ 17. An outfielder, and a poor one to boot, Lillie played three indifferent seasons with Buffalo before landing in KC. Not surprisingly, the Cowboys were terrible (30-91), and featured "players" with names like Mox, Fatty and Stump (and an 18-year-old Silver King, who would win 45 games with the Browns just two years later). Jim slashed 175/197/197 and apparently never played pro ball again.

*Jim Levey, 1933 St Louis Browns; OPS+ 24. Why did the Browns keep this guy (with the fancy slash line of 195/237/240) in the line-up every single day? Well, probably because (1) They were the friggin' St. Louis Browns, a team that drew about a thousand fans a game and finished 55-96; (2) They didn't have anybody better; St. Louis suited up only 16 position players all year, including five catchers (!!) and, somehow, Rogers Hornsby, who wandered in late in the season to take over as manager (and hit .333 -- three hits in nine AB); (3) Levey was actually a good player the year before, garnering MVP votes despite a 75 OPS+. (He wasn't much of a shortstop, though, twice leading the league in errors.) After 1933, Levey disappeared until 1936, played three years with Dallas in the Texas League, vanished for three more years, popped up on the Tigers' AAA team in Buffalo, then finally finished out the string in 1945 with Jamestown in Class D ball.

*Mario Mendoza, 1979 Seattle Mariners; OPS+ 25. The one and only. The man they called manos de seda ("hands of silk") moved to Seattle after his legendary five-year stint with the Pirates, and slashed 198/216/249 in his only season as a regular player. Respect.
   16. Belfry Bob Posted: April 24, 2019 at 08:26 AM (#5834783)
Why don't the Orioles go the Rays one better with this 'opener' thing, and just pitch a position player every game? Results would be close to the same as using their starters, and you'd have a lot more flexibility on the bench.
   17. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: April 24, 2019 at 08:31 AM (#5834784)
Davis' OPS+ is up to 46. This is better than Matt Kemp (27), Scott Shebler (37), Yasiel Puig(40) and Jose Peraza (4). And these are just the Reds...
   18. Nasty Nate Posted: April 24, 2019 at 08:33 AM (#5834786)
The O's gained 1.5 games on the Sox yesterday. It might be a Goliath and David thing in the race for last in the AL East!
   19. Cris E Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:03 AM (#5834797)
Maybe Kemp, Puig and Peraza need to get out there and pitch (or bake) as it seems to have helped Mr D.
   20. Ithaca2323 Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:10 AM (#5834798)
Davis is .360/.385/.720 starting with the game in which he got his first hit. I honestly hope he can become a cromulent hitter again.
   21. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:19 AM (#5834801)
Davis' OPS+ is up to 46. This is better than Matt Kemp (27), Scott Shebler (37), Yasiel Puig(40) and Jose Peraza (4).


Ian Desmond is at 21. He went one for four with a single last night, and his raw OPS went up. He's played in 22 games and has scored THREE runs.
   22. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:26 AM (#5834803)
Ian Desmond is at 21. He went one for four with a single last night, and his raw OPS went up. He's played in 22 games and has scored THREE runs.


That is crazy. Peraza is at 4, has reached base safely only 12 times, is hitting 7th-8th in the lineup, and has 7 runs scored.
   23. PreservedFish Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:35 AM (#5834808)
Ian Desmond is at 21. He went one for four with a single last night, and his raw OPS went up. He's played in 22 games and has scored THREE runs.


I feel like the Rockies should go back to the Bichette and Castilla type hitters. Why don't they have CJ Cron or Lucas Duda yet? I guess Mark Reynolds sort of fits but they should have like 3 of these guys in the lineup at all times.
   24. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:40 AM (#5834810)
At least Ian Desmond is keeping his negative WAR at a manageable level by playing CF now instead of 1B.
   25. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:42 AM (#5834811)
Best baker in MLB history: Dusty, Home Run, or Chris Davis?

Assuming we are treating playing careers only, I think Home Run Baker is at the top of the list, with a 135 OPS+ at what was then a premium defensive position (3B).
   26. Nasty Nate Posted: April 24, 2019 at 10:49 AM (#5834815)
Pie Traynor?
   27. Hysterical & Useless Posted: April 24, 2019 at 11:21 AM (#5834826)
and only two teams in all of baseball have a worse overall record.


Given how bad everyone assumed the Orioles were going to be this year, shouldn't this have been phrased "But two teams in all of baseball have a worse overall record!"

I mean, who thought they'd have any real competition in the Race to the Bottom?
   28. bfan Posted: April 24, 2019 at 12:16 PM (#5834839)
Given how bad everyone assumed the Orioles were going to be this year, shouldn't this have been phrased "But two teams in all of baseball have a worse overall record!"

I mean, who thought they'd have any real competition in the Race to the Bottom?


There is always a race to the bottom. Last year, after the trade of their great young OF, everyone thought the marlins would challenge for the worst team ever. They turned out with a better record than 3 teams and within a game of a 4th.
   29. filihok Posted: April 24, 2019 at 02:51 PM (#5834913)
Davis' OPS+ is up to 46. This is better than Matt Kemp (27), Scott Shebler (37), Yasiel Puig(40) and Jose Peraza (4). And these are just the Reds...

Just the Reds acquired from the Dodgers
   30. Zonk is Back Where He Came From Posted: April 24, 2019 at 03:12 PM (#5834922)
Kyle Farmer has a 100 OPS+!
   31. Cris E Posted: April 24, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5834996)
Just the Reds acquired from the Dodgers


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