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Former Expo Warren Cromartie hopes investors jump on idea for team in Montreal

Damn, that was quick! Jonah Keri just got his BBWAA badge.

Former Montreal Expo Warren Cromartie is just waiting for the right investors — or ‘‘power hitters’’ as he puts it — to step up to the plate in the city and hit one out of the park.

‘‘There are two things in baseball that never change: history and numbers,’’ said Cromartie, who is spearheading a drive for Montreal to get a Major League Baseball team.

‘‘Montreal, we have the history for baseball in this town. We have the numbers now. The numbers don’t lie. It’s an amazing day.’‘

...The reason for Cromartie’s unbridled enthusiasm at a news conference Thursday was an Ernst & Young feasibility study that suggests baseball could thrive in Montreal if the city had a new stadium.

The study was commissioned by Cromartie’s group — the Montreal Baseball Project — and the Montreal Board of Trade.

Ernst & Young cited a strong demand for season tickets, the team’s salary cap but especially revenue-sharing and increased TV rights as the reasons it reached its conclusion.

The report said the project would cost just over $1 billion — $500 million for the facility and $525 million for the franchise.

...Cromartie and the board of trade are looking for someone who can deliver money — and lots of it.

‘‘My next step is to find a champion,’’ he said. ‘‘A champion with passion, a champion with integrity, a champion with assets, because we can’t get done without it.

‘‘We’re looking for a big player, a cleanup hitter, somebody who wants to be part of history, be a hero.

‘‘We got a ball game going here. We got a game going. We got a runner on first base ... I need a power hitter, power hitters to make it happen.’‘

Repoz Posted: December 12, 2013 at 07:36 PM | 38 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. EvilBoWeevil Posted: December 12, 2013 at 08:34 PM (#4617144)
Wouldn't it be kind of interesting if the Tampa Bay Rays move to Montreal. Or maybe it will be the Oakland A's.
   2. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: December 12, 2013 at 08:41 PM (#4617150)
I think it's great that Warren Cromartie has such enthusiasm for returning baseball to Montreal. I'd love to see him get his wish, though I'd prefer it through expansion to 32 (though I don't know of another feasible market that's interested in having a team) rather than taking an existing team from its current home.

   3. EvilBoWeevil Posted: December 12, 2013 at 08:42 PM (#4617151)
The team can be named the Montreal Corneilles.
   4. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: December 12, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4617180)
The reason for Cromartie’s unbridled enthusiasm at a news conference Thursday was an Ernst & Young feasibility study
Yeah, but who doesn't get excited about Ernst & Young feasibility studies?
   5. Bob Tufts Posted: December 12, 2013 at 09:37 PM (#4617183)
The Montreal Poutines.....
   6. DL from MN Posted: December 12, 2013 at 09:52 PM (#4617189)
Montreal and Monterrey in 2020!
   7. Shibal Posted: December 12, 2013 at 09:59 PM (#4617191)
I'd be all for expansion, one in Montreal and one in Charlotte. 32 is a much better number than 30, and this daily interleague stuff is just awful. I'll take a little more watered down league over that any day of the week.
   8. asinwreck Posted: December 12, 2013 at 10:18 PM (#4617198)
Put Montreal in the NL, give Vancouver an AL team with an owner determined to start a heated rivalry with the Mariners. Wrest Canada from the Blue Jay monopoly.
   9. winnipegwhip Posted: December 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4617210)
Ha, Montreal will get a MLB team when the NHL returns to Winnipeg.
   10. chris p Posted: December 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4617211)
if montreal gets a team again, it should be an AL team. the rays are perfect. would have natural rivalry with toronto and it's an easy weekend trip from boston or new york.
   11. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: December 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM (#4617229)
Cromartie--Dawson--Valentine

best outfield in MLB

them were the days
   12. winnipegwhip Posted: December 13, 2013 at 12:32 AM (#4617247)
Cromartie--Dawson--Valentine

best outfield in MLB


I prefer Bell--Moseby--Barfield.

(Figure I would start a Canadian baseball argument.)
   13. TerpNats Posted: December 13, 2013 at 12:39 AM (#4617253)
Do what Colorado did, and name them for a defunct hockey team -- ladies and gentlemen, the Montreal Maroons!
   14. Shoebo Posted: December 13, 2013 at 01:04 AM (#4617261)
That D Backs outfield in 2011 with Cargo in left, Young in center, and uptown in right and parra as 4 the outfielder was pretty bad ass..........


Seriously cromartie has consistently been one of Gerardo Parras comps throughout his career.....never outside top 10' usually top 2-4
   15. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: December 13, 2013 at 09:06 AM (#4617306)
Cargo?
   16. John Northey Posted: December 13, 2013 at 09:51 AM (#4617323)
No question Montreal would do better than Tampa Bay (with a contender they were over 2 mil in attendance, Tampa has reached that once - their first season - and since has yet to crack 1.9. Montreal was over 2 mil 4 times (79/80/82/83 - their real contending years) and that was surrounding the first big strike year (the only year the Expos made the playoffs). Heck, Oakland made the playoffs each of the past 2 years and cannot crack 2 mil either (last did in 2005, last of 5 straight but last was top 5 in attendance in 1992 with McGwire & Canseco).
   17. Flynn Posted: December 13, 2013 at 10:36 AM (#4617346)
I was surprised at how conservative the projections are. A good team in a downtown park would almost certainly beat 2.3 million - the 79-83 Expos drew that much in a track stadium (even considering the time, people did not like the park - the Expos tried to bail back to Jarry after ONE year) in a crappy, dull neighborhood.
   18. boteman digs the circuit clout Posted: December 13, 2013 at 11:08 AM (#4617374)
If the Athletics were to move to Montreal, then Mike Rizzo's best trade partner would occupy the former home of his very own team!

::head implodes::
   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 13, 2013 at 11:12 AM (#4617377)
Wouldn't it be kind of interesting if the Tampa Bay Rays move to Montreal.


And it will be fun to see MLB use Tampa Bay as a bargaining chip for another round of stadium upgrades in 20 years.
   20. fra paolo Posted: December 13, 2013 at 11:14 AM (#4617382)
The recent Rogers deal with the NHL might have helped the cause of baseball in Montréal. It depends how aggressive TSN's management might be about attacking Rogers' monopoly of baseball coverage. Given the nature of these large corporate giants to resist competition between contract-signing periods, though, I would guess they will be none-too-aggressive.

But if it were to happen, it is going to be hard to get an AL team past Rogers.
   21. bob gee Posted: December 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4617393)
cromartie's book (slugging it out in japan) was an excellent read.

i hope they get a team without MLB/ownership's negative bashing of the city.
   22. Ron J2 Posted: December 13, 2013 at 11:47 AM (#4617417)
#21 Seconded on the book. Enjoyable (quick) read.
   23. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM (#4617431)
I would love MLB in Montreal, but there's not exactly political or corporate appetite for building a stadium is there? Montreal strikes me as similar to Portland - a fantastic potential market for MLB, but is probably too smart to ever publicly finance a stadium.
   24. DL from MN Posted: December 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM (#4617446)
We won't see AL expansion without realignment
   25. Der-K: Hipster doofus Posted: December 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM (#4617447)
Cargo = carlos gonzalez
   26. Astroenteritis (tom) Posted: December 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM (#4617474)
We won't see AL expansion without realignment


If MLB goes to 32 teams, put the two new teams in the AL and move Houston to the NL.
   27. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 13, 2013 at 01:04 PM (#4617486)
If MLB goes to 32 teams, put the two new teams in the AL and move Houston to the NL.


I think the point is, you'd have uneven divisions again (5-5-6). If you want even divisions, you'd have to go to four divisions of four.

ALE: Baltimore, Boston, NY, Toronto
ALC: Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota
ALS: Houston, Texas, KC, Tampa Bay
ALW: Oakland, Seattle, LA of A, Portland

NLE: Montreal, NY, Philly, Washington
NLC: Cincy, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Chicago
NLS: Florida, Atlanta, St. Louis, Colorado
NLW: San Diego, San Fran, LA, Arizona

No way they'd split up STL and Chicago, and Colorado makes no sense in the South so there would be some sort of realignment.
   28. Dan Evensen Posted: December 13, 2013 at 01:22 PM (#4617508)
If you want even divisions, you'd have to go to four divisions of four.

I'd prefer 4 leagues of 8 teams each, no interleague play, where only the top team makes the postseason.

It won't happen -- but at least I can make it happen in DMB / Skeetersoft / OOTP / whatever.
   29. Traderdave Posted: December 13, 2013 at 01:42 PM (#4617523)
I'd prefer 4 leagues of 8 teams each, no interleague play, where only the top team makes the postseason.



Throw in a permanent ban of the DH and that is a smashing great plan/dream.
   30. Astroenteritis (tom) Posted: December 13, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4617535)
I'd prefer 4 leagues of 8 teams each, no interleague play, where only the top team makes the postseason.
It won't happen -- but at least I can make it happen in DMB / Skeetersoft / OOTP / whatever.


Oh, it is nice to be able to set up my Strat leagues the way I want (and not use the DH!)

I do think a drastic realignment would be the way to go if we get to 32 teams. Would the White Sox/Cubs and Yankees/Mets and such object to being in the same division?
There are plenty of division options that would allow rivals such as St. Louis and Chicago to remain together. I guess everyone won't be happy, no matter what, but it would seem so obvious to have Montreal and Toronto in the same division, for instance.

It does feel like every time another wild card layer is added it, in effect, reduces the options for future realignment. For instance, four 8-team divisions with four wild cards would be OK, but we've already passed that threshold, and we know MLB will never reduce the number of playoff teams.
   31. TerpNats Posted: December 13, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4617539)
I think the point is, you'd have uneven divisions again (5-5-6). If you want even divisions, you'd have to go to four divisions of four.

ALE: Baltimore, Boston, NY, Toronto
ALC: Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota
ALS: Houston, Texas, KC, Tampa Bay
ALW: Oakland, Seattle, LA of A, Portland

NLE: Montreal, NY, Philly, Washington
NLC: Cincy, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Chicago
NLS: Miami, Atlanta, St. Louis, Colorado
NLW: San Diego, San Fran, LA, Arizona
Flip the Braves and Marlins with the Brewers and Cubs, and you're set...though the South divisions should be renamed Central, and the Central divisions renamed Midwest. You don't have to mimic everything about the NFL divisional setup.
   32. Perry Posted: December 13, 2013 at 02:21 PM (#4617555)
NLS: Florida, Atlanta, St. Louis, Colorado


Colorado in with 2 teams from the Eastern time zone? No thanks.
   33. DL from MN Posted: December 13, 2013 at 03:16 PM (#4617603)
AL East
NYY
Boston
Baltimore
TB

AL Great Lakes
Detroit
Toronto
MONTREAL
Cleveland

AL Central
CHW
Texas
Minnesota
KC

AL West
LAA
Seattle
Colorado
Oakland

-------------------------

NL East
NYM
Philly
Cincy
Pittsburgh

NL Southeast
Washington DC
Atlanta
Houston
Miami

NL Central
CHC
St Louis
MONTERREY
Milwaukee

NL West
LAD
SF
AZ
SD
   34. base ball chick Posted: December 13, 2013 at 05:19 PM (#4617699)
Astroenteritis (tom) Posted: December 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM (#4617474)
We won't see AL expansion without realignment


If MLB goes to 32 teams, put the two new teams in the AL and move Houston to the NL.


- yes YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

i want my team back. even if it has that piece of shtt as an owner. and yeah, let's have ALL of baseball get rid of the ****ing glorified PH
   35. Steve Treder Posted: December 13, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4617722)
Cargo = carlos gonzalez

Who has never played a major league inning for the Dbacks, in 2011 or otherwise.
   36. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: December 13, 2013 at 06:54 PM (#4617726)
Who has never played a major league inning for the Dbacks, in 2011 or otherwise.


Shoe, who would most definitely know that, was engaging in a little "what might have been" with that post.
   37. Steve Treder Posted: December 13, 2013 at 06:58 PM (#4617728)
Shoe, who would most definitely know that, was engaging in a little "what might have been" with that post.

Ah.
   38. Shoebo Posted: December 15, 2013 at 03:05 AM (#4618223)
Sorry, didn't return to scene of the crime. SOSH is correct. I was being wistful.

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