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Wednesday, January 11, 2017

Former Giants closer Casilla nearing deal with A’s - SFGate

Athletics buying low.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 11, 2017 at 08:24 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tin Angel Posted: January 11, 2017 at 09:41 PM (#5382093)
I don't get this, he looked to be toast in the second half last year.
   2. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: January 11, 2017 at 10:19 PM (#5382098)
Will he be changing his name back to Jairo Garcia?
   3. A triple short of the cycle Posted: January 11, 2017 at 11:16 PM (#5382115)
And getting 3 years younger?
   4. PreservedFish Posted: January 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM (#5382120)
If Billy Beane had been replaced by some unknown GM like 3 years ago, and the unknown GM made all of the same moves that Billy did in real life, would he be widely considered the worst GM in baseball? I don't think any team has puzzled me more.
   5. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 11, 2017 at 11:46 PM (#5382122)
Billy Beane is like Miles Davis or John Lennon in the 70s. Rarely has someone gone so abruptly from beloved mainstream middle-brow success to avant-garde bafflement of his audience.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: January 12, 2017 at 12:58 AM (#5382128)
If Billy Beane had been replaced by some unknown GM like 3 years ago, and the unknown GM made all of the same moves that Billy did in real life, would he be widely considered the worst GM in baseball? I don't think any team has puzzled me more.

Dave Stewart was lapping the field but has been put out to stud. Preller's still got him beat. The Rox still don't seem to know what they're doing but it's probably close.

Beane does seem to have developed a fetish for the $5-7 M vet, declining reliever that does seem odd. But then there was that year when they started spring with almost nothing but LOOGys and DHs ... somebody wrote a book about I hear.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: January 12, 2017 at 01:05 AM (#5382129)
Billy Beane is like Miles Davis or John Lennon in the 70s. Rarely has someone gone so abruptly from beloved mainstream middle-brow success to avant-garde bafflement of his audience.

Other than Kind of Blue, I'm pretty sure Miles' top selling albums were all from the 70s. OK, per Wiki it's #######' Brew at double platinum in the US. (KoB at 4x platinum of course and Sketches of Spain made gold. Quick search didn't turn up any sort of sales data on the others.) If you were thinking of the 80s stuff, I don't think anything but Tutu gained much traction but there's no way to call that stuff avant-garde (the 70s stuff wasn't so much avant-garde either really, it was trying to forge a new popular style).
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 12, 2017 at 01:17 AM (#5382130)
####### Brew is 1970. On The Corner (1972) was the one that sold well but confused the audience, and then Get Up With It (1974) and the live albums recorded in Japan are extremely avant-garde. Lots of electric guitars, 25-minute songs and the trumpet is muted into sounding like an electric instrument itself. Then he went on drug hiatus for a while and came back with 80s dance grooves.
   9. asinwreck Posted: January 12, 2017 at 01:18 AM (#5382131)
Sonny Sharrock was more valuable than Sonny Gray.
   10. QLE Posted: January 12, 2017 at 01:26 AM (#5382132)
The trio of #######' Brew, Kind of Blue, and Sketches of Spain are the only albums with certifications in the RIAA database of gold and platinum records.

Similarly, #######' Brew is also his only album to reach the Top 40 in the US, with Seven Steps to Heaven being his best chart success pre-fusion (peaking at #62) and The Man with the Horn being his only album afterwards to reach the Top 100.

And, to keep it on-topic: it has yet to be proven or disproven that Billy Beane signs all his contracts with his desk facing away from everyone else.
   11. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 12, 2017 at 02:00 AM (#5382134)
Sonny Sharrock was more valuable than Sonny Gray.


Rahsaan Roland Kirk was more valuable than Kirk Saarloos.
   12. PreservedFish Posted: January 12, 2017 at 07:47 AM (#5382142)
Is "middlebrow" really the best word for John Lennon and Miles Davis? That seems pretty harsh.
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 12, 2017 at 09:25 AM (#5382189)
Is "middlebrow" really the best word for John Lennon and Miles Davis? That seems pretty harsh.

For John Lennon, definitely. He's just a Pop star who got weird.
   14. PreservedFish Posted: January 12, 2017 at 10:21 AM (#5382228)
Snapper, I know you hate the Beatles, but I find it tough to see how one can apply the word "middlebrow" to their work. They may not have quite been the Velvet Underground or Captain Beefheart but they were certainly experimental and boundary-pushing. Lennon perhaps foremost among the members.
   15. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 12, 2017 at 10:22 AM (#5382229)
I just mean they appealed to the middlebrow, mainstream audience.
   16. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 12, 2017 at 02:32 PM (#5382497)
Rahsaan Roland Kirk was more valuable than Kirk Saarloos.


There's a winery in the hills above Santa Barbara, CA called Saarloos. I was tasting in there and asked if they were any relation to Kirk Saarloos. They were and it seemed like I was the first person ever to ask them that question.
   17. zonk Posted: January 12, 2017 at 03:09 PM (#5382523)
Tossing darts at dartboard of inexpensive meh FAs is apparently the new market efficiency.

   18. PreservedFish Posted: January 12, 2017 at 03:11 PM (#5382524)
I just mean they appealed to the middlebrow, mainstream audience.


Well, I gotta nitpick on this one. "Middlebrow" as an adjective refers to art that is of let's say modest quality. "Middlebrow" as a noun refers to people that consume that art.

An artist as popular as the Beatles will undoubtedly appeal to all sorts of people, opera-lovers, demo-derby drivers, hobos, aristocrats, and everything in between. It doesn't make that artist "middlebrow." You're middlebrow if you create middlebrow art. Like, I dunno, Trans-Siberian Orchestra or Diana Krall or the Foo Fighters.
   19. Nasty Nate Posted: January 12, 2017 at 04:11 PM (#5382568)
If the only choices are low-brow, high-brow, or middle-brow, I think the Beatles should be considered middle-brow.
   20. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 12, 2017 at 04:38 PM (#5382587)
I just mean they appealed to the middlebrow, mainstream audience.


By that standard, David Bowie was "middlebrow".

Seems like gussied-up music snobbery to me. Like you deserve credit for liking the Beatles before they were cool.
   21. Bote Man Posted: January 12, 2017 at 04:44 PM (#5382592)
An artist as popular as the Beatles will undoubtedly appeal to all sorts of people: opera-lovers, demo-derby drivers, hobos, aristocrats, and everything in between.

It can be a dangerous place, but it was our last, best hope for peace.
   22. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: January 12, 2017 at 05:30 PM (#5382622)
Ken Giles is more valuable than Kenny G.
   23. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 12, 2017 at 06:15 PM (#5382640)
Why should Ken Giles have to change his name? The name was fine before that no talent ass clown started playing sax with his creepy curly hair all over the place!
   24. Zach Posted: January 12, 2017 at 06:24 PM (#5382646)
I agree with #4, but middlebrow is the wrong word for the Beatles, who went from "Please Please Me" to Rubber Soul in about two and a half years.


The best example of middlebrow I can think of is "The King's Speech" from a few years back. It's aimed at the mass audience, but distinguishes itself by good production values, name actors, and having a respectable and "important" subject matter. It's not a bad movie, but it was obviously Oscar bait from the moment of its conception.
   25. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 12, 2017 at 06:49 PM (#5382664)
Mods: Please edit #5 to just say "mainstream success" and then delete comments 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, and 20.
   26. PreservedFish Posted: January 12, 2017 at 11:21 PM (#5382782)
After reading a bit on the subject I've come to the conclusion that "middlebrow" is a bit like "hipster." The meaning is very very elusive and typically it says a lot more about the user than it does the subject.

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