Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Wednesday, October 10, 2018

Former MLB star Lenny Dykstra indicted on cocaine, meth and terroristic threat charges

The continued saga of the rise and fall of Lenny Dykstra adds a new chapter.

ELIZABETH, N.J.—Former Major League Baseball player Lenny Dykstra has been indicted by a Union County (New Jersey) grand jury on two drug charges and allegedly threatening an Uber driver during a May incident in Linden, N.J.

Dykstra was indicted on possession of cocaine and possession of methamphetamine, both third-degree crimes, according to the indictment handed up Tuesday. He was also indicted on a terroristic threat charge, also a third-degree crime.

Dykstra, a three-time All-Star, played 12 seasons with the Philadelphia Phillies and New York Mets and was a member of the Mets’ 1986 championship team. He is slated to be arraigned on the indictment charges, but that court date has yet to be scheduled, according to the Union County Prosecutor’s Office.

QLE Posted: October 10, 2018 at 11:32 PM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: cocaine, indicted, lenny dykstra, uber

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM (#5764515)
I hope Lenny's okay. I hope everything works out for him and he's able to live a long, healthy, happy, clean and sober life. Also, if you asked me which baseball star of the 1980s was most likely to be indicted on charges of possession of methamphetamine, I'd have said Lenny Dykstra.

Jeez. Get well, Nails.
   2. Zonk just has affection for alumni Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:18 AM (#5764523)
His rap sheet page has gotta be close to passing the size of his bb-ref page at this point.

I've lost count of how many of these Dykstra stories we've had at this point...
   3. Charles S., looking 4 band-aids instead of dreams Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM (#5764530)
I guess I hope he gets clean and gets well too, but if ever there was a guy who needed to be locked up just for the general safety of the community, it's Dykstra. Grand theft, financial fraud, sexual assault, indecent exposure, and now terroristic threats. It goes all the way back to 1991 if you start with drunk driving himself and Darren Daulton into tree after Kruk's bachelor party. Even if you think drug use is more a disease than a crime, and I think many of us do, this is still a guy who needs to be removed from society for a long time.
   4. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:30 AM (#5764539)
What is a "terroristic threat?" That feels like a bullshit law set up for a bullshit charge meant to intimidate people into pleading out. Dykstra is a pretty bad actor, I think Charles gets it right in #3, but that's a weird description.
   5. Zonk just has affection for alumni Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:34 AM (#5764542)
Terroristic threat -

a.A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens to commit any crime of violence with the purpose to terrorize another or to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation, or otherwise to cause serious public inconvenience, or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. A violation of this subsection is a crime of the second degree if it occurs during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. The actor shall be strictly liable upon proof that the crime occurred, in fact, during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. It shall not be a defense that the actor did not know that there was a declared period of emergency at the time the crime occurred.

b.A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens to kill another with the purpose to put him in imminent fear of death under circumstances reasonably causing the victim to believe the immediacy of the threat and the likelihood that it will be carried out.

L.1978, c.95; amended 1981, c.290, s.15; 2002, c.26, s.11.
   6. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5764545)
4. What is a "terroristic threat?" That feels like a bullshit law set up for a bullshit charge meant to intimidate people into pleading out.
TFA:
Dykstra allegedly put a weapon to the driver's head and threatened to kill him
   7. RoyalFlush Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:38 AM (#5764546)
What is a "terroristic threat?" That feels like a bullshit law set up for a bullshit charge meant to intimidate people into pleading out.


As I understand it, it's threatening to kill someone in a way the "vicitm" legitimately fears for his/her life. Sounds like something that should be illegal to me.

I am not a lawyer.

Edit: Round of Cokes on me.
   8. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:38 AM (#5764547)
This is the least surprising story since Darren Daulton died from the long term effects of steroid abuse.
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:55 AM (#5764563)
I hope everything works out for him and he's able to live a long, healthy, happy, clean and sober life.
I'd say the chances of that are looking about as good as his stock picks.
   10. Zonk just has affection for alumni Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:55 AM (#5764564)
By my count -

This is his 9th arrest and the 5th resulting in charges, and if convicted - his 4th. My count may be inaccurate- just a quick perusal.

I'm very much of a mind that we over-imprison, yada yada...

However, it should be noted that that last arrest/charge/conviction resulted in prison time in 2012. He was released in 2013 and completed probation in 2014. This appears to be his first arrest since then.

So... despite my views on the US justice system, there does appear to be a really good case to be made that prison does seem to work better than anything else to keep him from committing crimes, at least for a while.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 11, 2018 at 10:57 AM (#5764566)
This is his 9th arrest and the 5th resulting in charges, and if convicted - his 4th. My count may be inaccurate- just a quick perusal.

He's got to be getting close to habitual offender status, doesn't he? They could lock him up for a long time.
   12. Batman Posted: October 11, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5764573)
This is what Dykstra said when he was arrested in May:
"The guy went nuclear on me," said Dykstra. "He f---ing kidnapped me and almost killed me going 100 mph. He locked me in his f---ing car, and he wouldn't let me out."
So his defense was that the terroristic threat was in self defense.
   13. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: October 11, 2018 at 11:15 AM (#5764581)
What is a "terroristic threat?" That feels like a bullshit law set up for a bullshit charge meant to intimidate people into pleading out. Dykstra is a pretty bad actor, I think Charles gets it right in #3, but that's a weird description.
"Terroristic threat" is a longstanding term in law -- it long long long predates the "war on terror" and the like, and has nothing to do with that. Each state would define it differently, of course, but it generally refers to a threat to cause significant bodily harm.

EDIT: Cokes.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: October 11, 2018 at 04:55 PM (#5764818)
But I'm guessing the bit about "during a local, state, national emergency" was added post-2011. And it's hard to see why putting a gun to an Uber driver's head would be more threatening during such an emergency. Plus these days, with various color alerts (are they still doing that), what constitutes an "emergency?"

NAL but I thought that pointing a gun at somebody already counted as assault with a deadly weapon, that you didn't need to pull the trigger.

Anyway, absolutely putting a gun to somebody's head should be a crime that carries serious time which "third degree scaring the #### out of somebody" doesn't really sound like.
   15. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 11, 2018 at 05:19 PM (#5764828)
"Terroristic threat" is a longstanding term in law -- it long long long predates the "war on terror" and the like, and has nothing to do with that.


Thanks, interesting and useful to know that it's not a war on terror thing.
   16. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 11, 2018 at 06:48 PM (#5764862)
I hope Lenny's okay. I hope everything works out for him and he's able to live a long, healthy, happy, clean and sober life.


Are you kidding me? Dykstra is a sh*t in every sense of the word. The sooner he is removed from the general populace the better. He's going to end up killing someone eventually as he's a menace to society. This, oh he has an abuse problem, let's go soft on him is cr*p where Lenny is concerned. Dude is a crook and just an awful human in general.
   17. Zonk just has affection for alumni Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:11 PM (#5764869)
Are you kidding me? Dykstra is a sh*t in every sense of the word. The sooner he is removed from the general populace the better. He's going to end up killing someone eventually as he's a menace to society. This, oh he has an abuse problem, let's go soft on him is cr*p where Lenny is concerned. Dude is a crook and just an awful human in general.


Could we split the difference and just say that it would be better for everyone if imprisonment's primary focus was on rehabilitation and where drug abuse is a factor or not even a factor, but a corollary aspect or fact, treatment?
   18. flournoy Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:39 PM (#5764886)
As a wise man once said, "There's no cure for being a ****."
   19. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:47 PM (#5764888)
A couple weeks ago I indulged in a nostalgia trip and watched Game 6 of the 1993 World Series, which is up on Youtube in its entirety. There will probably never be anything like the 1993 Phillies again. It's hard to describe just what that team was like. The best laconic description I can come up with is: Curt Schilling wasn't even one of the five weirdest dudes on the 1993 Phillies.
   20. Joe Bivens is NOT a clueless numpty Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:50 PM (#5764891)
Thanks, interesting and useful to know that it's not a war on terror thing.



uh ok
   21. Zonk just has affection for alumni Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:51 PM (#5764892)
As a wise man once said, "There's no cure for being a ****."


No argument - I'm just saying that I wish we did a better job diagnosing and beyond infected or not, trying to separate the fatal cases from the curable.

FTR - Like I said, Lenny's last stint in prison did seem to lead to his longest stretch of... well, at least not being the news for things that might lead to prison. So maybe I'm arguing with myself.
   22. Joe Bivens is NOT a clueless numpty Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:51 PM (#5764893)
Could we split the difference and just say that it would be better for everyone if imprisonment's primary focus was on rehabilitation and where drug abuse is a factor or not even a factor, but a corollary aspect or fact, treatment?


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Dykstra was a prick before he began using drugs.
   23. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:52 PM (#5764894)
#17
Sure, I am a great believer in rehabilitation and would love to see the system attempt to make better in this aspect. I do believe that many younger offenders could be rehabilitated if the system was more equipped to serve them in a better manner then the current, just lock 'em up focus.

However Dykstra has had many, many chances and opportunities(wealth, connections, etc) far beyond most of us could imagine and he's just proven to be a 2-bit crook, hustler and generally horrible person.

You don't lose your sh*t and point a gun at someone's head unless you are some crazy arse mofo who has no respect for other humans. That's not a drug problem. Dykstra is just a sh*tty human.
   24. Zonk just has affection for alumni Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:57 PM (#5764900)
Fair enough Hugh and Joe, wasn't trying to pick a fight...

I'm just trying to make a more concerted effort to apply things I "believe I believe" in a more consistent way.

I actually agree on Dykstra... like I said in the crossfire, I suppose I'm kind of arguing with myself since his last incarceration led to -- at least publicly -- his longest stint of not newsworthy bad behavior.

That's something, I guess.
   25. 'Spos Posted: October 11, 2018 at 07:58 PM (#5764901)
There will probably never be anything like the 1993 Phillies again.

I miss Jim Fregosi. In later life he was an advance scout, & was very outgoing and generous with his time.
   26. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 11, 2018 at 08:00 PM (#5764904)
Ah, I can see that 18 and 22 beat me too it, cokes all around
   27. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: October 11, 2018 at 08:18 PM (#5764915)
I generally support prison-state reform at every level. I will say that Lenny Dykstra is one of the exceptions to prove the rule, though. Dude's a complete waste of human tissue. He's what Donald Trump would have been if he had talent at baseball but none of daddy's money.
   28. PreservedFish Posted: October 11, 2018 at 08:30 PM (#5764921)
I initially thought that Dan's wishes that Dykstra may enjoy "a long, healthy, happy, clean and sober life" were commendable and magnanimous. But looking at that list of adjectives more closely, and considering what we know about the guy, I think it likely that a long-lived, healthy, happy, clean and sober Dykstra might wreak maximum havoc on the rest of the world.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Guts
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOTP 2018 October 15: The shift in focus from sport to politics
(146 - 4:16am, Oct 16)
Last: Gonfalon Bubble

NewsblogESPN: Olney: Pine tar in the postseason could put MLB in a sticky situation
(18 - 1:31am, Oct 16)
Last: the Hugh Jorgan returns

NewsblogOT - NBA Thread (2018-19 season kickoff edition)
(477 - 1:20am, Oct 16)
Last: maccoach57

NewsblogCatch-All Pop Culture Extravaganza (October 2018)
(254 - 1:11am, Oct 16)
Last: Davo and his Moose Tacos

NewsblogLEAGUE CHAMPION SERIES OMNICHATTER! for the 2018 Playoffs!
(895 - 11:24pm, Oct 15)
Last: Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams)

Hall of Merit2019 Hall of Merit Ballot Discussion
(166 - 11:13pm, Oct 15)
Last: Kiko Sakata

NewsblogProjecting the composition of A's bullpen in 2019
(5 - 10:58pm, Oct 15)
Last: Hecubot

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 10-15-2018
(17 - 10:54pm, Oct 15)
Last: Sweatpants

Gonfalon CubsNow what?
(99 - 10:12pm, Oct 15)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

NewsblogRed Sox exorcise their postseason demons to beat Astros and even ALCS
(8 - 10:08pm, Oct 15)
Last: My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto

NewsblogUmpire Joe West Hit By Throw From Red Sox Catcher Christian Vazquez
(32 - 9:05pm, Oct 15)
Last: Cris E

NewsblogAll jokes aside, Bob Uecker seriously loves baseball
(43 - 6:32pm, Oct 15)
Last: spycake

NewsblogOT: Soccer Thread (2018-19 season begins!)
(984 - 5:43pm, Oct 15)
Last: AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther

NewsblogOTP 2018 October 8: Hugh Jackman's 'The Front Runner' Confronts The Political Conundrum Of Our Time
(1559 - 3:33pm, Oct 15)
Last: Zonk just has affection for alumni

NewsblogOT - 2018 NFL thread
(55 - 3:03pm, Oct 15)
Last: McCoy

Page rendered in 0.3108 seconds
46 querie(s) executed