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Friday, September 07, 2012
Twins will retire former manager Tom Kelly s number…and it ain’t for his slumberous announcing or his term as president of the Todd Walker Fan Club.
I think some of the younger players during the ‘90s I might have been a little rough on. I was only trying to find out who could play and who couldn’t play. It was nothing malicious.
A guy like Todd Walker, he was a terrific hitter. I mean, he could hit. He could really hit, especially with nobody on. You got some men on and he wasn’t as good, and those numbers will prove that. But he didn’t want to work on his fielding at all. It was like embarrassing for him to do that. We’d try to get him to go work, and he’d get mad. We were just trying to help him. Maybe I was a little rough on him because pitching and defense was our way. He was an excellent hitter. He almost won the batting title one year. He was hitting .330-something right until the last week or two. Then he fell apart. It got to be too much for him, but he really was a good hitter. You really enjoyed watching him hit.
Todd felt bad about practicing in front of other people. If the other team still was in the dugout at 3:30 p.m., he didn’t want to go out there while they could watch. When they were all gone, then he’d go out.
You know what bothered him a lot? (Boston Red Sox standout Nomar) Garciaparra because Garciaparra turned into the real deal and he was picked ahead of Garciaparra. (The Twins picked Walker eighth overall in the 1994 amateur draft; the Red Sox selected Garciaparra 12th overall that year.) He couldn’t handle that. He let those kind of things bother him. He was a good guy. He just didn’t want to practice on the things he needed to practice on.
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Posted: September 07, 2012 at 05:14 AM | 28 comment(s)
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1. Harveys Wallbangersbernie williams won the batting title at .339
tom is't that far off
where is cutting himself some slack is how he treated walker. walker, like david ortiz, was not a tom kelley type of player. period. and tom let everyone know it. he thought walker was a bad second baseman and wasn't shy about saying so.
His career line with no one on .288/.346/.440
It plummets to .290/.350/.427 with runners on. To be fair to Tom with RISP it is .261/.337/.383
So why not take him somewhere he could work out without the other team around? Obviously it's a bit problematic if an MLB player is uncomfortable around crowds but have the assistant to the traveling secretary hit him some grounders at a local high school or in his backyard for cryin' out loud.
And while that's a specific criticism I think highly of Kelly. Why has he never gotten another shot? His name never seemed to even come up and he was still young (50) in his last year with the Twins. He's actually two years younger than Valentine which I wouldn't have guessed.
I don't think he wanted to return to the game at that level.
Because he retired. The Twins didn't fire him. They haven't fired a manager since 1986.
But could he hit?
Checking google images, looks like more of the first.
he did go out on a winning season, but that was kind of fluky as the twins had a slew of guys have career seasons. cristian guzman had his best season with the bat. corey koskie had his best season. scrabbleboard hit .306 with 39 doubles. and joe mays led the pitching staff. how is that for a blast from the past. joe mays??
and a.j. and torii were just young crazy kids at the time. ahhh, memories.
anyway, tom had to know this was the time after a series of seasons of getting hammered by teams crushing 3 run homers left and right. good timing
Worst team home run differentials of all-time (homers hit minus homers allowed):
-115: 1996 Twins
-103: 1999 Twins
-96: 2000 Twins
-93: 2011 Astros
-90: 1995 Twins (in 144 games)
Yeah, Tom Kelly wasn't that interested in the power game.
He had his flaws including an unjustified attachment to Dick Such as a pitching coach. His #### does work in the playoffs though. He was able to manage some flawed teams past more talented squads.
Tommy Lasorda is in this group too. He's 51 in this picture, or the same age George Clooney is now. Red Auerbach as well - he's 50 in this picture - taken the last year of his coaching career.
Tommy Lasorda is in this group too. He's 51 in this picture, or the same age George Clooney is now. Red Auerbach as well - he's 50 in this picture - taken the last year of his coaching career.
If George Clooney is the standard none of us is going to look very good. That said Lasorda looks pretty old there.
He also says he might have been a "little rough" on his players, which is more than most managers would admit to saying.
It reads like an honest answer, instead of some just cliched response.
If you look at a guy like Ortiz and all you can think of is to take swings intending to hit singles then you're probably taking your small ball predilections a bit too far.
Have to agree to disagree on this. It's like a non-apology apology, a "sorry if you misunderstood what I said" if you will. He admits to be hard on players, yes, but then immediately plunges into why those players were lacking. The general point of the story is that Todd Walker was cowardly and lazy.
It may have been true from Kelly's perspective, but it's still not very nice.
*There's no way it wasn't Radke and Milton, but that has never been confirmed.
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