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Monday, October 08, 2007
Uggggh….....I’ll be putting more than fingers on his throat…and if not his, mine.
Is Fox taking another plunge into the late-night talk show wars? If there’s one thing that’s for certain, they don’t have much of a track record. First, they tried Johnny Carson-sub Joan Rivers in the 1980s, who not only failed, but sacrificed her relationship with the King of Late Night in the process. Then, in the 90s, they gave the 11pm slot to Chevy Chase, who’s attempt at a talk show has now become a industry byword for “disaster.” Now, the network is looking in-house for their next attempt to enter the Jay-vs-Dave battle: Sportscaster Joe Buck.
According to Broadcasting and Cable, Fox has shot a pilot featuring their lead football and baseball announcer. The plan is for him to host a half-hour, weekly talk show with incorporates comedy, interviews and a small studio audience (almost like the concept of the original Later, which was hosted by Bob Costas).
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1. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: October 08, 2007 at 08:31 PM (#2567669)when I think "Joe Buck," I immediately think "comedic powerhouse"
The article's citation of "The Magic Hour" as a predecessor to the proposed show says it all, except that that show's idiocy will in this case be replaced by boredom.
I guess Chevy Chase wasn't available
BTW, did anyone see Chevy Chase on SNL last week? It was about the most painful five minutes on SNL I've ever seen and that's saying a lot.
That alone cancels out any good it may have contributed to the world.
I was going to mention that. Dear god. train ... wreck
McCarver would be a good Ratso Rizzo, if they carry out my suggestion to act out scenes from "Midnight Cowboy" instead of trying to do original comedy bits.
Or am I completely nuts here.
self promotion? nepotism?
Imagine the negotiations...
Contender 1: "I want $50 million a year"
Fox: "We can have Joe Buck if we want. You better come back with a more reasonable offer."
Contender 1: "Joe Buck?" [Suppressed chortle] "Did I say $50 million? I meant $100 million."
"You know, Fats Domino had a big hit back in the Fifties with 'I'm Walking.' And that's exactly what I felt like saying to that Chrysler Newport driver in that situation: I'm walking, here."
They settled on Craig Ferguson, and I believe the ratings are up, making this two shows (The Daily Show being the other) that have improved since Kilborn left.
See? I knew we could think of something.
"You know, Fats Domino had a big hit back in the Fifties with 'I'm Walking.' And that's exactly what I felt like saying to that Chrysler Newport driver in that situation: I'm walking, here."
Tim McCarver knows how to use a computer? And calls himself Boots Day? How peculiar.
a pantsless Randy Moss?
More broadly, can someone who was given a job through nepotism ever rise above that original sin?
some politicians - Al Gore, Chris Dodd, whatever Daley is running Chicago at the moment ...
Stay tuned!
I guarantee that Joe Buck would be better at hosting a talk show than doing play by play for baseball. Though it could turn out that he has some reverse wiring in his brain to explain his sucktastic baseball announcing. My theory is that while doing baseball he actually thinks he's hosting a talk show. To test this, give him the talk show and see if he starts doing baseball play by play.
If nothing else, this talk show would get him out of the booth. Which would make it a success in my book. If it bankrupted FOX in the process, that would be like icing on the cake. If it caused Tim McCarver to retire, that'd be like a stunning beauty popping out of the cake.
It's a shame Eddie Griffin died, he would have been perfect.
I assume the goal is to make Buck as uncomfortable as possible, since I can't imagine him getting laughs any other way.
That's disgusting.
They better hurry up in signing him...cause it will most definitely be cancelled on Dec. 21, 2012.
Ouch.
I liked Sports Monster as well.
Craig Ferguson is the best of the late night hosts (not counting The Daily Show, which is a little different). He doesn't do 20 jokes, he does a rambling monologue each night. He has some really funny recurring bits, and he's actually a very good interviewer. Leno's interviews are obviously read from note cards. His only role is to set up what the guest wants to talk about: "So, have you ever been to Acupulco?" "Why yes, Jay, I was there last week and..." (5 minute story). Ferguson does a real interview and is very quick on his feet.
That was actually intended to be a compliment....I thought Boots comment was very McCarveresque. Poorly done on my part.
To get a speculative piece in B&C;? About half of one person.
Those are two pretty excellent replacements, but I actually liked Kilborn. Ratings themselves do not tell much about the quality of a host, like Jay Leno. Of course, in the aforementioned case of Chevy Chase, the ratings were right on.
That's a pretty tepid "plunge" into the late-night talk show wars.
Can you be good at the receiving end of nepotism?
More broadly, can someone who was given a job through nepotism ever rise above that original sin?
Jack Buck in Heaven says, "I can't believe... what I just sired!"
Craig Ferguson? He's terrible.
And yet, he does look like Johnny Carson meets Edward R. Murrow compared to Ryan Seacrest.
Don't hold your breath. I'm sure the sports execs at Fox have been watching TBS over the last week and are salivating over the chance to hire Chip Carey as his replacement. I think he and Joe Buck were separated at birth.
Well thank you, Gonfalon Bubble, I certainly appreciate your spending part of your evenings watching my show.
Next week on GMC Truck Presents CenterStage, my interview with Knicks owner Jim Dolan. It's a really good show and he's such a nice guy, so you don't want to miss that.
Kilbourn was absolutely hysterical on both shows. Maybe the ratings have improved without him, but both shows were LOL funny when he was on them. I guess you either 'get' Kilbourn or you don't, but I definitely got him.
I'm not saying Chip is good or anything, but I'd take him anyday over Joe Buck. Maybe after ten years of Chip and Tony, I'd feel toward them as I do now toward Joe Buck and McCarver, but I'd be willing to find out.
They settled on Craig Ferguson, and I believe the ratings are up, making this two shows (The Daily Show being the other) that have improved since Kilborn left.
Channel 35 in Salinas had better newscasts after Kilborn left the sports beat to join ESPN.
Bobby Kennedy.
How could you prove that it was nepotism, then? Sean McDonough is an example. He is good enough on his own merits to have been hired to announce Red Sox games, but I guess some people figured nepotism got him the job.
Yeah, well, anyone who likes to listen to Hawk Harrelson can't really be counted on for good judgment in these areas.
I don't like to listen to Hawk Harrelson.
He is awful. The worst monotone voice I've ever heard as an announcer. I grew up with Rizzuto, White and Messer. And I would occasionally wiggle the rabbit ears and get a Boston game, and I couldn't believe how God-awful those announcers were - I think he was with Bob Montgomery at the time?
Just one other reason why I was so happy I was born a Yankee fan. I thought being born in NY relative the rest of the United States was just as lucky as most Americans feel for being born in the US compared to the rest of the world. And Sean McDonough was a big part of that.
I have friends from North Korea who once thought the same thing.
That has nothing to do with McDonough. I liked him. He and Remy made a decent team.
In any case, both are examples of terrific broadcasters who would never keep, or even get, a job in this day and age.
Martin and who? McDonough? McDonough is young enough to get another regular gig.
I agree. McDonough is awful. Not quite Buck/McCarver awful, but still bad enough to make me hit mute.
When my dad and I watched the '92 and '93 World Series together, we would mute the TV and listen to Vin Scully's radio broadcast. Occasionally the two weren't synched very well (as I recall, the radio was a little bit faster), but it was worth it.
I am not a Scully fan. I enjoyed what little I heard of Harry Caray. The guy from Detroit, Prince, was that his name? I liked him. Coleman and Ned Martin and Jon Miller. But not Scully.
Wow, the Brewers have fallen off the radar screen awfully fast.
I loved that show. I wanted to be an Audience of One but never got to NY to do it.
Mike Piazza?
Michael Kay
I'm so tired of Caray-Gwynn-Brenly that I actually wanted to listen to Waldling tonight. Alas, the radio is a good 7-8 seconds ahead of TV, so I can't do that. So I'm just using Mobb Deep Hell on Earth as the soundtrack to A-Rod's imminent home run [pretend that was crossed out] ####### strikeout.
I get him. He's a preening, pompous, self-absorbed azsclown who wouldn't know funny if he slipped in it and broke his coccyx.
More broadly, can someone who was given a job through nepotism ever rise above that original sin?
I thought Al Unser, Jr. was a pretty good driver in his own right.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.
Gee, it wasn't <u>that</u> bad of a question.
Hmmm... I may have overstated your fandom a bit, but in this thread you said:
So I'll change my comment to be:
Yeah, well, anyone who can stand to listen to Hawk Harrelson can't really be counted on for good judgment in these areas. :-)
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