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Thursday, November 15, 2018

Fox Sports inks multi-year rights agreement with Major League Baseball

FOX Sports and Major League Baseball have reached a new multi-year, multiplatform rights agreement expanding the network’s television, digital and Spanish-language rights and cementing FOX Sports as the home to baseball’s marquee events for the next decade. The agreement was announced today by Baseball Commissioner Robert D. Manfred, Jr. and Executive Chairman of 21CF Lachlan Murdoch.

$5.1 billion over 7 years.

jmurph Posted: November 15, 2018 at 12:46 PM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. jmurph Posted: November 15, 2018 at 01:41 PM (#5787950)
Hmm the first paragraph is a quote. Because I never submit, I have no idea how to do that in the submission system.

Anyway, sucks to your TV bubble, I guess!
   2. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: November 15, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5787952)
Oh yay, more Joe Buck.
   3. Nasty Nate Posted: November 15, 2018 at 01:54 PM (#5787963)

Hmm the first paragraph is a quote. Because I never submit, I have no idea how to do that in the submission system.
Use the quoting as if it was a regular comment.
   4. jmurph Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:00 PM (#5787968)
Use the quoting as if it was a regular comment.

But I didn't see the buttons to do that. Do I need to remember to use the parens and slashes and all that nonsense? That's probably not going to happen, as I'm not very bright.
   5. Nasty Nate Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:10 PM (#5787974)
The buttons aren't there. I open a new window with a regular thread, click the quote button, and then copy and paste all the slashes and brackets stuff over.
   6. jmurph Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:10 PM (#5787975)
Ahh that makes sense. Thanks.
   7. villageidiom Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5787980)
I've updated it to be a quote.
   8. villageidiom Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:27 PM (#5787983)
(And a hat tip to charityslave who submitted a similar thread; that one won't be published only to keep from duplication.)
   9. jmurph Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:33 PM (#5787990)
I've updated it to be a quote.

Thank you, sir.

(And a hat tip to charityslave who submitted a similar thread; that one won't be published only to keep from duplication.)

Looks like someone shouldn't work so hard at his real job and instead use the backdoor way of getting things published. I hope we've all learned a lesson here.
   10. Ziggy's screen name Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5787994)
Oh noes the sky is falling and baseball is dying &etc;. Wait, how many billions?
   11. Padraic Posted: November 15, 2018 at 02:56 PM (#5788007)
Kinda lame to see that the TV schedules wont change at all. LCS games on TBS and FX1 or whatever just freezes so many people out, and I still can't believe they don't air FOX games on Sat or Sun afternoon over the summer. FOX isn't a disaster for baseball, but I would love to see what a sports production group like NBC could do. Even after 20-some years, I'm still not sure why FOX wants baseball (it just seems to get in the way of football, and they ignore it other times of the year) or why baseball wants FOX.
   12. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: November 15, 2018 at 03:02 PM (#5788010)
Blargh.

But I will say this, FOX Sports had the Champions League in soccer for years and they were TERRIBAD.

I couldn't understand how they put out a product so awful. Like in sense they wouldn't post the score or match time in the streaming live feed. You only got that if you watched the replay an hour or so after the game ended.

But somehow TBS/TNT has managed to be worse.

It's bad ... it can always get worse.

   13. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: November 15, 2018 at 03:33 PM (#5788041)
(And a hat tip to charityslave who submitted a similar thread; that one won't be published only to keep from duplication.)


I'm really glad you didn't go with mine because I had misspelled salary and would have died from embarrassment.
   14. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: November 15, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5788043)
(And a hat tip to charityslave who submitted a similar thread; that one won't be published only to keep from duplication.)


I'm really glad you didn't go with mine because I had misspelled salary and would have died from embarrassment.
   15. Jay Seaver Posted: November 15, 2018 at 03:39 PM (#5788048)
Even after 20-some years, I'm still not sure why FOX wants baseball (it just seems to get in the way of football, and they ignore it other times of the year) or why baseball wants FOX.


Post Disney-sale, what's left of Fox at News Corp (basically, Fox News & Fox Network, maybe FS1) is probably going to be even more in on live sports and unscripted programming than they are now, both because Disney will own the part of the corporation that actually produces The Simpsons, The Orville, 9-1-1, and whatever the heck else they show, and those shows won't be nearly as profitable for the Murdochs, and because stuff that can't be DVRed or streamed later will be at a premium. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if, a few years from now, they go back to putting some of the LCS on broadcast as their scripted stuff goes away. It's not quite the same situation as 20+ years ago when they were UHF stations struggling to be considered a real network and looking for a platform to promote their fall season to a lot of people, but I suspect baseball is uniquely valuable to Fox (especially since they've got cable networks to feed).

As to why MLB wants Fox... Well, see above. All that makes Fox more likely to pay them than anybody else, and Fox still has more cachet as a network that attracts young audiences than the three older ones.

I'm kind of surprised/disappointed that Amazon either didn't make a bid for some of the playoffs or the Saturday package or something or it didn't tempt MLB enough. They could probably use that sort of big mainstream spotlight the same way Fox could then and might have built some interesting X-Ray stuff into the broadcast.
   16. villageidiom Posted: November 15, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5788064)
I'm really glad you didn't go with mine because I had misspelled salary and would have died from embarrassment.
Yes, thankfully my preference to avoid duplication also kept you from public error.
I'm really glad you didn't go with mine because I had misspelled salary and would have died from embarrassment.
You are one persistent SOB.
   17. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: November 15, 2018 at 04:07 PM (#5788065)
I think FOX likes October baseball in order to advertise their football slate. Lots of crossover fans.
   18. McCoy Posted: November 15, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5788067)
And to let people know that her father is the District Attorney!
   19. A Baseball Fan Posted: November 15, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5788070)
Will be interesting to see how the Rays don't spend this new money.
   20. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 15, 2018 at 05:04 PM (#5788100)
But I will say this, FOX Sports had the Champions League in soccer for years and they were TERRIBAD.

I couldn't understand how they put out a product so awful. Like in sense they wouldn't post the score or match time in the streaming live feed. You only got that if you watched the replay an hour or so after the game ended.


I kind of assumed this would be the result of the negotiations but I really wanted NBC to get it. The soccer coverage really highlights the difference between fox and NBCSN. NBC just seems to have a respect for viewers that Fox doesn’t. That came through on soccer when Fox tried to force feed us Gus Johnson while NBC rolled out people like Jon Champion and Arlo White. Fox went with the name, NBC hired quality.

I think this shows up on Fox’s baseball coverage too. There are plenty of great announcers out there but they insist on Buck and Smoltz. They haven’t done anything meaningfully different in 25 years (and I’m the guy who liked McCarver). They act like fans don’t know anything, they force the same teams into prime time, it’s frsutrating. From their standpoint I guess there is no reason to do anything different but as a fan it’s why I simply don’t listen to sound during games.
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 15, 2018 at 05:34 PM (#5788109)
Will be interesting to see how the Rays don't spend this new money.

I suspect that the national TV, Extra Innings, MLB.TV & merchandise deals make it nearly impossible for a MLB team to actually lose money, no matter how poorly they do on selling tickets or local broadcast rights. If you don't need to win to make money, why invest in winning?
   22. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: November 15, 2018 at 05:48 PM (#5788116)
$5.1B will buy a lot of ad spots between batters.
   23. Leroy Kincaid Posted: November 15, 2018 at 09:08 PM (#5788212)
$5.1B will buy a lot of ad spots between batters.


MLB has to pay the advertisers?! Man, baseball is on the ropes.
   24. The Duke Posted: November 16, 2018 at 07:40 AM (#5788333)
I don’t understand the joe buck hate. I get that people might want to hear other voices and that he’s been doing this for awhile but I think he’s a really good play by play guy with no particular bad habits. I have noticed that ALL national announcers are better in their local jurisdictions as national announcing tends to require adding more “entertainment “ value and more talking to fill the gaps.
   25. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 16, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5788391)
I think there are two Joe Bucks. There is the Joe Buck before the throat illness and the Joe Buck after it. I think before it he was a dour guy who didn’t seem to enjoy baseball. The illness seems to have triggered a reaction that he recognizes how fortunate he has it and he is a much better announcer now.

I still don’t love him but he’s much better. In his defense I think he is hamstrung by Fox’s all-NFL all the time approach and a lack of chemistry with Smoltz.
   26. Jay Seaver Posted: November 16, 2018 at 12:36 PM (#5788447)
I think to a certain extent, Buck is the name and face you can most easily associated with Fox's coverage, and as such becomes the most obvious target. It's also probably in large part because of how initial reactions outlive their reasons; he was considered an unqualified kid hired for being Jack Buck's son when Fox first hired him, and even if he's proven himself since, that initial reaction still lingers.
   27. Hysterical & Useless Posted: November 16, 2018 at 04:33 PM (#5788596)
Back in the days when I used to see the occasional baseball telecast, my impression of Joe Buck was much like that of many other people: this guy just doesn't like baseball, does he? I haven't heard him since his illness, but I hope Jose is right that he's improved.
   28. aberg Posted: November 16, 2018 at 04:45 PM (#5788600)
I read that there will also be an NFL Redzone-style whiparound broadcast nightly on something called DAZN. It appears from the internet that DAZN is an app that shows sports in non-US markets. Any idea if that is going to be available here and what the logistics will be?
   29. Sweatpants Posted: November 16, 2018 at 07:20 PM (#5788646)
Didn't football fans think Buck was just as unenthusiastic as baseball fans did? His call of the Tyree catch got pretty heavy criticism for not being worthy of the moment back when it happened.
   30. QLE Posted: November 16, 2018 at 08:00 PM (#5788653)
he was considered an unqualified kid hired for being Jack Buck's son when Fox first hired him


That, and, IIRC, wasn't there a longstanding charge that Jack Buck (even pre-Joe) had undue influence in baseball broadcasting because of his close ties to the Busch family, in much the same way that Joe Garagiola had a highly negative behind-the-scenes image because of his use of behind-the-scenes influence with sponsors to get ahead?

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