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Wednesday, November 03, 2010

Fraley: Will deep World Series run cause trouble for Ranger pitchers’ arms?

Now the Rangers face the bill for their World Series run.

How much did an additional 16 pressure-packed games and 141 demanding innings take from the pitching staff?

In the era of three rounds of playoffs, putting a staff back together has become a post-World Series staple. The only certainty is not everyone will be the same. Someone will suffer from the extra demands the postseason creates for pitchers.

Postseason pitching is far different than regular-season pitching. There are fewer chances for the pitcher to cruise through a soft spot in a lineup. There is more emphasis attached to every pitch. Former major leaguer John Smoltz, who made 41 postseason appearances in his illustrious career, said, “Every inning in October feels like two.”

Wow! That means Andy Pettitte has pitched about a beelzebubillion innings!

Repoz Posted: November 03, 2010 at 09:13 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: history, rangers, sabermetrics

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   1. J.C. Bradbury Posted: November 03, 2010 at 10:57 AM (#3682929)
Gosh, it's a shame that there are no sports medicine doctors out there familiar with such topics. I mean, I can only assume that's why the reporter wouldn't think to ask a medical professional to comment on this story.
   2. Dale Sams Posted: November 03, 2010 at 02:14 PM (#3683006)
I'd be more worried about the Rangers heads, then their arms.
   3. Cris E Posted: November 03, 2010 at 02:20 PM (#3683015)
Lucky for the Giants that they won, otherwise we'd have to worry about their arms too.
   4. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: November 03, 2010 at 03:04 PM (#3683038)
Neftali Feliz is expected to be just fine.
   5. BDC Posted: November 03, 2010 at 03:19 PM (#3683047)
The bigger question is whether three guys with very little track record of major-league starting success (Wilson, Lewis, and Hunter) can be effective next year at all; that question would be just as large if they'd missed the playoffs.

Most clubs, even successful ones with good pitching, are in the position of starting from near-scratch every winter; if you have one or two sure things in the rotation you're lucky. I was going to say "nowadays," but I suspect it was ever thus.
   6. Pingu Posted: November 03, 2010 at 03:37 PM (#3683066)
I'm sold on Colby Lewis. You dont have that much success for three consecutive years without being legitimate. If you're sold on Cliff Lee being CLIFF LEE, then you have to be sold on Lewis.
   7. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: November 03, 2010 at 03:38 PM (#3683069)
All three are BABIP All-Stars (Hunter .257, Wilson .267, Lewis .277) just like Feldman was in 2009 (.274).

My instinct is that Hunter and Wilson are good bets to match Feldman's 2010 line next year, but Lewis is real. Hunter doesn't strike out enough guys and gives up too many HR. Wilson walks too many, and I'm not convinced his low HR rate is sustainable. I think Lewis has by far the best mix of peripherals to expect sustained success.
   8. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 03, 2010 at 05:35 PM (#3683184)
There are fewer chances for the pitcher to cruise through a soft spot in a lineup.

I will grant him this point with the Yankees and maybe the Rays, but the Giants lineup certainly had some soft spots.
   9. BDC Posted: November 03, 2010 at 06:26 PM (#3683222)
the Giants lineup certainly had some soft spots

Several of whom managed to take a Ranger pitcher deep :)

I was at Game Five, and then had to go off-line for an extended errand yesterday, so am just getting back to Primer (the rest of my life can wait :) Congratulations to the Giants and their fans!
   10. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: November 03, 2010 at 06:26 PM (#3683224)
I will grant him this point with the Yankees and maybe the Rays, but the Giants lineup certainly had some soft spots.

Giants pitchers certainly cruised through the soft 3-4-5 hitters the Rangers served up in the Series.
   11. The Good Face Posted: November 03, 2010 at 07:07 PM (#3683246)
My instinct is that Hunter and Wilson are good bets to match Feldman's 2010 line next year, but Lewis is real. Hunter doesn't strike out enough guys and gives up too many HR. Wilson walks too many, and I'm not convinced his low HR rate is sustainable. I think Lewis has by far the best mix of peripherals to expect sustained success.


Agree. Lewis looks like the real deal... he clearly figured something out in Japan. He may not be quite as good in 2011, but I'd be really surprised if he's not an above average starter, barring injury.

I'm not ready to write off Wilson as a fluke, his K rate was pretty impressive, but his walk rate and BABIP were troubling. High variance guy who could go either way.
   12. Bhaakon Posted: November 03, 2010 at 10:30 PM (#3683375)
I will grant him this point with the Yankees and maybe the Rays, but the Giants lineup certainly had some soft spots.


Depends what you mean by "soft spots", I guess. The Giants didn't have any real offensive superstar, but they didn't really have any automatic outs either (at least not until they were forced to use a DH). Even Renteria was basically a league average hitting shortstop (and, the experts agree, too clutch to pitch too in the wrold series).

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