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Freeman: Shocking victory? Not with these confident, no-frills Phils

He was a Freeman in New York
Stoking the star maker machinery…

Utley also set the record for the amount of Soul Glo in a person’s hair.

Utley’s dominance embodied the Phillies who, on yet another foul weather night here, again showed their sea legs in the Game 1 victory. They demonstrated something that remains a hardcore truth but seems to still be largely forgotten by too many people: There isn’t a tougher team in baseball than the Phillies.

There wasn’t last year, there wasn’t this season and because of that swagger-licious, wholesomely arrogant and unparalleled ability to collapse the trachea of an opponent—even one as storied as the Yankees—the Phillies have taken control of this series.

The Phillies even took control of the fans. Utley said Yankees fans were rowdy towards the Philadelphia players until he hit those homers. Then the stadium, filled with 50,207 people, mostly became quiet. Then something else happened.

“... During near the end of the game,” Utley said, “I noticed some people left.”

...The Yankees? Their new stadium? Their celebrities? All those rings? All those titles? His Phoniness, Rudy Giuliani, in attendance? The Phillies don’t care.

Repoz Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:33 AM | 102 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Crashburn Alley Posted: October 29, 2009 at 06:33 AM (#3369894)
From the article:

It's a noticeable contrast to the uptight nature of the Yankees and their controlling manager Joe Girardi, whose jockstraps seem to get tighter as the situation gets closer.

I don't think the Yankees are the right team to chastise for folding up the tent in the late innings of a close game. They are the 29th MLB team I'd think of like that, the 30th being the Phillies.
   2. Benji Posted: October 29, 2009 at 06:54 AM (#3369899)
His Phoniness! I keep hoping for a foul ball to knock his friggin hat off and then smash the Fox camera that shoots that Nosferatu-looking creep.
   3. Esoteric Posted: October 29, 2009 at 01:45 PM (#3370000)
His Phoniness, Rudy Giuliani, in attendance?
You know what? You people deserve David Patterson and (soon) Andrew Cuomo. Enjoy the continued further slide into budgetary apocalypse, o city of smug, snarky liberal ingrates!
   4. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 01:49 PM (#3370005)
You know what? You people deserve David Patterson and (soon) Andrew Cuomo. Enjoy the continued further slide into budgetary apocalypse, o city of smug, snarky liberal ingrates!

I'd vote for Cuomo. Patterson seems out of his league and I'm hoping he drops out. I think Cuomo and Bloomberg could get things done...well, except for the morass that is Albany gumming up the works.
   5. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 01:51 PM (#3370009)
no-frills Phils

you forgot "old school" and "blue collar"

(I guess he's saving them for future columns)
   6. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:01 PM (#3370022)
you forgot "old school" and "blue collar"

(I guess he's saving them for future columns)


Nobody believes in them!
   7. Esoteric Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:14 PM (#3370030)
I think Cuomo and Bloomberg could get things done...
Bloomberg is a weird figure, and impossible to categorize in any box. If he would just drop the bizarre federally-usurping anti-gun thing (the out-of-state operations being the weirdest and most inexcusable part) I could embrace him a lot more strongly, though I respect him enough as is. But yeah, if anyone could find a way to shift concrete up in Albany, it's probably Bloomberg. Shame he's too smart to ever want the job. In the end I suspect Rudy feels the same way.

As a Democrat, I believe Cuomo is doomed to be a disaster before he even starts: his party apparatus is just too beholden to the sort special interests (unions, esp.) that any Governor will need to make squeal like a stuck pig in order to bring the budget into line. I'm convinced it's politically impossible for a Dem to do the sorts of things that need to be done in NY state. There isn't even enough wiggle-room for a Nixon-to-China move.
   8. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:16 PM (#3370033)
It's a noticeable contrast to the uptight nature of the Yankees and their controlling manager Joe Girardi, whose jockstraps seem to get tighter as the situation gets closer.

I don't think the Yankees are the right team to chastise for folding up the tent in the late innings of a close game. They are the 29th MLB team I'd think of like that, the 30th being the Phillies.
Well, it's not like the Yankees have won any games in the late innings this postseason.

It's one f##king game, and the Phillies won because Cliff Lee was untouchable. If he had been merely "good" and the Phillies had given up three runs, Rivera would have pitched two innings and it would probably be 1-0 right now.
   9. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:20 PM (#3370039)
If he would just drop the bizarre federally-usurping anti-gun thing

I'm pretty OK with the anti-gun thing, actually.
   10. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:25 PM (#3370044)
it would probably be 1-0 right now.


Actually, it IS 1-0 right now.
   11. sunnyday2 Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:26 PM (#3370045)
the Phillies have taken control of this series.

A bit premature.
   12. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:27 PM (#3370047)
Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk
I'm pretty OK with the anti-gun thing, actually.


This just struck me as kind of funny -- "Shooty" trying to establish some kind of anti-gun character alibi for the McGurk killing.
   13. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:30 PM (#3370051)
Michael Bloomberg exists only to give real estate developers whatever they want, massage his own ego, and scowl at anybody who calls him on his undemocratic impulses.
   14. sunnyday2 Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:30 PM (#3370052)
federally-usurping anti-gun thing


I am always amused when issues are framed as jurisdictional. This is federal, that's local, etc. etc. The fact is nobody gives a #### about jurisdiction. They just what their way.
   15. sunnyday2 Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:31 PM (#3370054)
Michael Bloomberg exists only to give real estate developers whatever they want, massage his own ego, and scowl at anybody who calls him on his undemocratic impulses.


And the problem is....?
   16. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:32 PM (#3370056)
Actually, it IS 1-0 right now.
I meant 1-0 Yankees.
   17. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:32 PM (#3370058)
Michael Bloomberg exists only to give real estate developers whatever they want

This is why I'm not voting for him this time. Also, there's no way he's going to lose so I don't feel the vote is all that important. I just don't want him to win in an I AM ABOVE THE LAW type of landslide.
   18. aleskel Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:33 PM (#3370060)
They demonstrated something that remains a hardcore truth but seems to still be largely forgotten by too many people: There isn’t a tougher team in baseball than the Phillies.

There wasn’t last year, there wasn’t this season and because of that swagger-licious, wholesomely arrogant and unparalleled ability to collapse the trachea of an opponent


GRRRRR, TOUGH! THEY EAT THE BONES OF THEIR ENEMIES AND TAKE THEIR WOMEN AS SLAVES
   19. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:35 PM (#3370062)
Michael Bloomberg fundamentally does not believe in democracy. It's clear in his handling of the social promotion debate, in his disastrous attempt to enact congestion pricing, and most of all in his utterly disgraceful move to alter the term limits law. He's a latter-day Robert Moses, only without all the nice parks.

I am a big fan of 311, but that's about it.
   20. aleskel Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:38 PM (#3370066)
It's clear in his handling of the social promotion debate, in his disastrous attempt to enact congestion pricing, and most of all in his utterly disgraceful move to alter the term limits law.

Congestion pricing was a good idea that got killed because the outer borough politicians didn't like it. The term limits law was a bad idea that he succeeded in overturning by winning the support of a plurality of the Council. I don't know what you mean by the social promotion debate, but please, undemocratic?
   21. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:40 PM (#3370070)
only without all the nice parks.

We could use more parks. Now that I'm able to travel more, I'm really struck by how little green space NYC has compared to other cities.
   22. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:42 PM (#3370076)
Speaking of green space, I posted in the Lounge about whether or not people wanted to meet up in the city to watch Pedro go against the Yankees while perhaps shooting some at Amsterdam Billiards. The Lounge is generally scary, so I'm going to paste some notes around and about to see if I can get some interest.....
   23. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:44 PM (#3370078)
Congestion pricing was a good idea that got killed because the outer borough politicians didn't like it.

It was a good idea, which he completely failed to sell to outer borough politicians, who had legitimate concerns about the effects on their constituents, who were going to bear the short-term burden of it. Bloomberg's response was to threaten to finance the campaigns of their opponents. They called his bluff.

The term limits law was a bad idea that he succeeded in overturning by winning the support of a plurality of the Council.

It was a bad law, overturned by the small set of people who had the most to gain from it. I am opposed to term limits in principle, but that was a rotten bargain.
   24. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:48 PM (#3370086)
It was a bad law, overturned by the small set of people who had the most to gain from it. I am opposed to term limits in principle, but that was a rotten bargain.

From a bare knuckles politics POV, that was some serious chutzpah by Bloomberg.
   25. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:56 PM (#3370096)
You know what? You people deserve David Patterson and (soon) Andrew Cuomo. Enjoy the continued further slide into budgetary apocalypse, o city of smug, snarky liberal ingrates!


Hey. Esoteric. I'm here too. Don't wish this on me. Wish it just on Shooty.
   26. aleskel Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:00 PM (#3370106)
You know what? You people deserve David Patterson and (soon) Andrew Cuomo. Enjoy the continued further slide into budgetary apocalypse, o city of smug, snarky liberal ingrates!

The problem in Albany is a microcosm of the national urban-rural political imbalance. Upstate NY would be up #### creek without the NYC-Rockland-Nassau tax base, but that doesn't stop them from putting their hand into the till whenever they want.
   27. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:01 PM (#3370108)
Enjoy the continued further slide into budgetary apocalypse, o city of smug, snarky liberal ingrates!


It's cute that conservatives, after decades of GOP irresponsibility, still think it's liberals who can't balance a budget.
   28. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:02 PM (#3370110)
Hey. Esoteric. I'm here too. Don't wish this on me. Wish it just on Shooty.

Kumbaya ############!
   29. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:04 PM (#3370117)
Speaking of green space, I posted in the Lounge about whether or not people wanted to meet up in the city to watch Pedro go against the Yankees while perhaps shooting some at Amsterdam Billiards. The Lounge is generally scary, so I'm going to paste some notes around and about to see if I can get some interest.....

OK. I'm not sure how much I'll want to shoot, though. I'll be pretty into the game. Pedro, man, Pedro!
   30. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:06 PM (#3370120)
I think it is cute that any fan of any political party can still think it is somehow the other sides fault for the mess they are in or think they are in.
   31. The District Attorney Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:06 PM (#3370122)
I am a big fan of 311
Dude, they sold out with the blue album.
   32. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:07 PM (#3370123)
You know what? You people deserve David Patterson and (soon) Andrew Cuomo. Enjoy the continued further slide into budgetary apocalypse, o city of smug, snarky liberal ingrates!

Hey. Esoteric. I'm here too. Don't wish this on me. Wish it just on Shooty.

That's ok, he means me, too.

Although, be careful, Pavement's going to be playing in Central Park next freaking September or whenever, the post-apocalypse might catch them!


Dude, they sold out with the blue album.

Awesome.
   33. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:11 PM (#3370130)
OK. I'm not sure how much I'll want to shoot, though. I'll be pretty into the game. Pedro, man, Pedro!

There's no way that we could play during the whole game, and there are plenty of bars in the area playing the game. Actually, there's on that very corner of 11th and 3rd that plays the game with sound for the college games, they might for the Playoff game as well.
   34. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:11 PM (#3370131)
311 or 112?
   35. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:14 PM (#3370135)
There's no way that we could play during the whole game, and there are plenty of bars in the area playing the game. Actually, there's on that very corner of 11th and 3rd that plays the game with sound for the college games, they might for the Playoff game as well.

Is that Nevada Smith's?
   36. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:16 PM (#3370141)
Is that Nevada Smith's?

Couldn't tell ya. I can't be the only New Yorker who knows things more by location than name.
   37. aleskel Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:25 PM (#3370155)
11th and 3rd right on the corner is the Village Pourhouse. Nevada Smith's is up the block. Both are great.
   38. robinred Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:36 PM (#3370164)
As a Democrat, I believe


Good to know you changed parties. ;-
   39. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:37 PM (#3370167)
I think it is cute that any fan of any political party can still think it is somehow the other sides fault for the mess they are in or think they are in.


I agree to blame McCoy.
   40. robinred Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:39 PM (#3370171)
Hey, T & B, Shooty tells me he is going to hang out with you and snapper.

Just don't kill Shooty--he needs to live to see Pavement in NYC.
   41. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:39 PM (#3370173)
I agree to blame McCoy.

Gentlemen, I believe we have reached an accord. It's all McCoy's fault. This is a great day for New York City, a great day for the State of New York, and a great day for The United States of America.
   42. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:40 PM (#3370174)
If he had been merely "good" and the Phillies had given up three runs, Rivera would have pitched two innings and it would probably be 1-0 right now.

And if my aunt had a frank and beans, she'd probably be my uncle.
   43. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:41 PM (#3370175)
And if my aunt had a frank and beans, sh'e probably be my uncle.
Don't be obtuse. The point of the post was that Game One doesn't say anything about the Phillies other than that Lee was really good last night.
   44. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:42 PM (#3370177)
I'll take the blame just as long as I get some 2000 page megabook out of all this.
   45. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:44 PM (#3370179)
Just don't kill Shooty--he needs to live to see Pavement in NYC.

My Liberal superpowers will protect me! I could take those two out with my Welfare Queen death ray. I won't even need my Shield of Entitlements or The Fist of Organized Labor.
   46. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:48 PM (#3370182)
The point of the post was that Game One doesn't say anything about the Phillies other than that Lee was really good last night.

I know. I still think the Yanks have to be considered the favorites, but if Pedro can get the job done tonight, then you guys are in trouble.

I don't like the Phillies much, but to be honest, I hope they pull it out. You have been such a typical insufferable Yankee fan all year long, it would be kind of great to see your season end in bitter misery.
   47. robinred Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:49 PM (#3370184)
I don't like the Phillies much


I think they are a pretty likable team actually.
   48. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:50 PM (#3370191)
I know. I still think the Yanks have to be considered the favorites, but if Pedro can get the job done tonight, then you guys are in trouble.

I don't like the Phillies much, but to be honest, I hope they pull it out. You have been such a typical insufferable Yankee fan all year long, it would be kind of great to see your season end in bitter misery.
Nice to know that you're a d##chebag.
   49. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:52 PM (#3370193)
So we're at four now? Shooty, snapper, Teal and Black, and me? Anyone else? Also, I refuse to refer to you by those names in person. If it's only four, we could play liberals vs. conservatives.

If it's more, or no one at all is interested in pool, I won't insist, either Nevada Smith's or Pourhouse is fine.


I'm trying to figure out who Larry is responding to. I don't think he's that insufferable, though. At least compared to other folks here in the city.
   50. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:56 PM (#3370199)
I'm trying to figure out who Larry is responding to. I don't think he's that insufferable, though. At least compared to other folks here in the city.

Larry and Joey B. are GETTING IT ON!
   51. robinred Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:57 PM (#3370200)
Anyone else?


You need to invite DiPerna. He plays pool and lives in NY. SBB lives there, too, so you you could have two conservatives, two liberals, a Libertarian, and a Classical Liberal/Tax Slave.
   52. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3370206)
Gentlemen, I believe we have reached an accord. It's all McCoy's fault. This is a great day for New York City, a great day for the State of New York, and a great day for The United States of America.


Just keep him from skipping out on the 22 trillion dollar check.

I should rise to combat you, Shooty, but my chair is just too comfortable. Such is the drawback of being a conservative superhero.
   53. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3370208)
Larry and Joey B. are GETTING IT ON!

Ohhhh I should have figured that out. Joey took over kevin's spot as my sole "ignore" person this year.
   54. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:02 PM (#3370212)
Ohhhh I should have figured that out. Joey took over kevin's spot as my sole "ignore" person this year.
He just jumped onto mine.

Rooting for one team so that another person will be unhappy is a pretty ####### douchey thing to do.
   55. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:03 PM (#3370213)
SBB lives there, too, so you you could have two conservatives, two liberals, a Libertarian, and a Classical Liberal/Tax Slave.


Oooh. We can alternate between social and economic 4-on-2 beatdowns.
   56. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:08 PM (#3370219)
Oooh. We can alternate between social and economic 4-on-2 beatdowns.

I'm drinking beer and watching baseball and generally wallowing in my own crapulence. I don't work out the world's problems at World Series time.
   57. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:09 PM (#3370220)
Rooting for one team so that another person will be unhappy is a pretty ####### douchey thing to do.

Believe me, it's far from the only reason I'm rooting against them. But yeah, I find you to be one of the most annoying and insufferable fans here, chest-thumping about the mighty Yankees when they win, and whining when they don't.
   58. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3370224)
Amsterdam Billiards

Hey, I live right by that place. I almost went in their with my brother once but we got worried we might get challenged to a game and embarrassed by our total lack of skills.

Is it a pool shark place, or were we just being paranoid?
   59. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:17 PM (#3370229)
Is it a pool shark place, or were we just being paranoid?

Paranoid.
   60. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3370231)
Is it a pool shark place, or were we just being paranoid?

A great way to avoid getting sharked is not to play strangers for money. ;-)

It has more nerdy pool players than sharks - as a group they are like any nerdy group. It certainly has some sharks, but as I said, there's an easy way to fix that. Also, it is too popular a place to let evil folk propagate in any volume, it would hurt business, I'd imagine.


Rooting for one team so that another person will be unhappy is a pretty ####### douchey thing to do.

I have three very good Yankee fan friends who all know I will be very happy for them if their team wins. They also all know that I want everyone where I work to be miserable and destitute for making cracks about the Mets all year if the Yankees LOSE, so I may be dancing on a fine line as far as you're concerned, Larry.
   61. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3370233)
It's a pool shark place when I'm there.

In that I wear floaties and bite people.
   62. retro-shiite Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3370239)
Rooting for one team so that another person will be unhappy is a pretty ####### douchey thing to do.

Perhaps--and yet, sometimes it's the only plausible tiebreaker.
   63. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:23 PM (#3370253)
Oh, expensive as get-out too. $18 an hour is a little high, right?
   64. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:25 PM (#3370259)
Oh, expensive as get-out too. $18 an hour is a little high, right?

Yes, but it's not that much. It's something like $8.50 an hour per person on the weekdays.
   65. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:55 PM (#3370319)
I bump thee, thread!
   66. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:57 PM (#3370324)
Is it a pool shark place, or were we just being paranoid?

Tuque, I haven't played pool in the city since McGirr's closed in the 80's, but I guarantee you that whether or not they'll try to trap you, there are likely to be at least a few players in Amsterdam at any given moment who would have you crying for your momma in about three racks. Possibly even including a woman or two. Amsterdam's former location is mentioned prominently in the best pool book ever written, David McCumber's Playing Off The Rail: A Pool Hustler's Journey.
   67. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:58 PM (#3370325)
OK - shall we make it official? Who's in, and when? 8 PM at Amsterdam? 8 PM at a bar?
   68. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 04:59 PM (#3370326)
Shooty is in.
   69. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:02 PM (#3370330)
Hi guys. I'm happy to try to meet up but I can't commit because I may be working late tonight (particularly since I'm out tomorrow).

If you guys have formalized the plans please post them here and I'll do my best to make it. Lassus, I'll email you with my cell number.

Robin, I "shoot pool" if by that you mean "once got beaten to a pulp by Andy."
   70. robinred Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:06 PM (#3370337)
Robin, I "shoot pool" if by that you mean "once got beaten to a pulp by Andy."


I know, but that's no disgrace. Andy is apparently damn good as long as he has his glaucoma drops with him. ;-
   71. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:06 PM (#3370338)
Wait, I thought they were the Frillies?
   72. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:08 PM (#3370345)
   73. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:08 PM (#3370346)
I know, but that's no disgrace. Andy is apparently damn good as long as he has his glaucoma drops with him. ;-

Fortunately, in order to play pool, you only need to focus out of the bottom half of your eyes, and you can work around the other blind spots....
   74. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:11 PM (#3370348)
If you guys have formalized the plans please post them here and I'll do my best to make it. Lassus, I'll email you with my cell number.

As you can see from Shooty's very specific "I'm in", formalizing is indeed the problem. ;-)

I'll TXT you with whatever happens, Ray.
   75. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:14 PM (#3370354)
Cool.
   76. robinred Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:17 PM (#3370359)
Funny threadlink, Gonfalon. Thought I'd give this guy a prop:

30. Nasty Nate Posted: June 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM (#3216263)

I dont want to get involved in the personal crap in this thread, but I definitely believe Pedro will pitch again in the bigs.

__

Szymborski shut it down, it appears.
   77. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:21 PM (#3370364)
Pedro who?

Yep, I was wrong on that one, and I know how gay you are for Pedro. The flyer Philly took on him once he dropped his ridiculous contract demands has worked out pretty well for him.

If he can do well against the Yankees, they might even bring him back next year.
   78. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:21 PM (#3370365)
Fortunately, in order to play pool, you only need to focus out of the bottom half of your eyes, and you can work around the other blind spots....

Not that I shoot pool very often, but I wondered why as I got older I had trouble focusing on my shot. One day it FINALLY dawned on me that my progressive bifocals were the problem -- I was looking at medium distance through the reading part.
   79. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:29 PM (#3370374)
Not that I shoot pool very often, but I wondered why as I got older I had trouble focusing on my shot. One day it FINALLY dawned on me that my progressive bifocals were the problem -- I was looking at medium distance through the reading part.

Yeah, I have lasik (btw that's ≠ steroids, Ray), but before that it was contacts or else. Some players I know who hate contacts use special glasses with lenses that seem to extend halfway up their foreheads. Works for them, anyway.
   80. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: October 29, 2009 at 05:52 PM (#3370418)
I'm in. I'll swing by wherever you guys wind up in the general upper downtown area.

I like Manhattan.
   81. HCO, Transgressive Herbivore Posted: October 29, 2009 at 06:04 PM (#3370440)
I'm ashamed to say I'm voting for Bloomberg. I'll just tell myself I'm voting for Jeanette Sadik-Khan. Thompson wants to tear up bike lanes.
   82. J. Sosa Posted: October 29, 2009 at 06:07 PM (#3370448)
Pedro ante portas!!!
   83. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 06:20 PM (#3370470)
I'm ashamed to say I'm voting for Bloomberg. I'll just tell myself I'm voting for Jeanette Sadik-Khan. Thompson wants to tear up bike lanes.

Damn it Bill, I'm TRYING to vote for your sorry ass.
   84. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 29, 2009 at 07:05 PM (#3370548)
Yep, I was wrong on that one, and I know how gay you are for Pedro.

Don't be bitter, Joey. There's always a brighter tomorrow. If you're lucky, some accomplished player might even suffer a career-ending injury.
   85. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 07:26 PM (#3370578)
Thompson wants to tear up bike lanes.

That's just plain idiocy. Hurting businesses? Nitwit.

ANYHOW - are we just saying 8 PM at the pool hall or the bars? All this "whatever, I'm in" makes me want to mention my bank account in Nigeria.

SO - 8 pm, Amsterdam. We can play for a bit, then go to a bar or whatever, as no one else has any other ideas. That sound good?


Yep, I was wrong on that one, and I know how gay you are for Pedro.

Where were you in the Yankees beat Phillies in sexiness thread, Joey? Please keep in mind, I can't see your answer.
   86. Nasty Nate Posted: October 29, 2009 at 07:27 PM (#3370579)
woo-hoo, one prop for me!
   87. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 07:29 PM (#3370583)
SO - 8 pm, Amsterdam. We can play for a bit, then go to a bar or whatever, as no one else has any other ideas. That sound good?

Done. I'll probably be there around 8:30. I'll be the guy wandering around in a brown corduroy jacket looking lost.
   88. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 07:46 PM (#3370604)
Done. I'll probably be there around 8:30. I'll be the guy wandering around in a brown corduroy jacket looking lost.

Tsk. You're going to miss Pedro plunking Jeter!

Just ask which table I am at at the desk. You know my actual name.
   89. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 29, 2009 at 07:58 PM (#3370620)
Just ask which table I am at at the desk. You know my actual name.

You're going by your first name, right?
   90. robinred Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:01 PM (#3370623)
You're going by your first name, right?


"Hi. Which table is CommiePinkoBastard sitting at, please?"
   91. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:15 PM (#3370642)
I'm totally going to stalk you guys now.
   92. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:16 PM (#3370644)
You're going by your first name, right?

Yes. And that isn't "Orlando".

T & B sent me an email regarding he'll be somewhere drinking at a table, but I'd imagine I'll get their first. I'm confused, did someone say snapper was showing up?
   93. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:20 PM (#3370650)
Don't be bitter, Joey.

Who's bitter? You're the guy who keeps bringing this sh*t up over and over again. I give my opinions, and I'll gladly admit when I make the wrong call, as I did in this case. I predicted the Yankees would win this series, and in this case I hope I'm wrong yet again.

Just do yourself a favor, and please try to keep yourself under control if Pedro pitches a good game tonight. You might want to keep a box of Kleenex within arm's reach just to be on the safe side.
   94. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:35 PM (#3370664)
I find an anti-Larry vendetta to be exceptionally weird. Why not pick on one of the many and various people around here who are actually offensive?
   95. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:37 PM (#3370665)
Address? Which Amsterdam Billiards?
   96. Lassus Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:40 PM (#3370668)
There's only one, 11th street between 3rd and 4th Avenue, across the street and just barely west of Webster Hall.

It was condo-ed out of your homeland on the upper west.
   97. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:46 PM (#3370672)
Ah. Didn't realize it's gone. (I thought there was one on 86th/3rd also.)

Ok. It's only 50-50 that I'll be able to make it, but we'll see.
   98. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:49 PM (#3370676)
I find an anti-Larry vendetta to be exceptionally weird. Why not pick on one of the many and various people around here who are actually offensive?

b/c Joey hates all people, regardless of race, color, creed, or personality.

I've often wondered if Joey is a Repoz creation. His anger and hostility seems too pure to come from an actual human being.
   99. HCO, Transgressive Herbivore Posted: October 29, 2009 at 09:43 PM (#3370721)
I will probably not make it to Amsterdam but tonight is going to be an ugly night so we'll see.
   100. Tuque Posted: October 30, 2009 at 03:05 AM (#3371388)
I just realized I wrote "their" for "there" in my previous post and now feel dumb. But I am dumb! So okay!

Amsterdam's former location is mentioned prominently in the best pool book ever written, David McCumber's Playing Off The Rail: A Pool Hustler's Journey.

See, regardless of whether I'm gonna get sharked, at the very least now I know I'll feel stupid playing there because I'll very easily be the worst. Though if anybody ever wants to get drunk and have a spelling contest I'm down, cos I'm pretty sure I'd win.
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