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Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Freep: Tigers’ Justin Verlander neither confirms nor denies he’s dating Kate Upton

People shriek on the streets of Michigan when they see Verlander in person. He can’t stop at a gas pump or go grocery shopping. Everyone knows where he lives in the off-season (Troy), what he eats the night before he pitches (Taco Bell, for three crunchy Taco Supremes, a Cheesy Gordita Crunch and a Mexican Pizza, hold the tomatoes) and where he grabs his morning coffee.

Justin Verlander: wins Cy Youngs, dates supermodels, eats crap.

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   701. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM (#4288296)
In order for Deadwood to have gone longer they would have had to radically alter season two. Now then, Rome could have gone longer and they intended to have it go longer but had to radically alter season two to get everything into one season. Which was a shame.
   702. zonk Posted: October 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM (#4288306)
Besides, season One of Deadwood was far and away my favorite... Swearengen made a much better villain than rogue/tragic/whatever hero...
   703. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM (#4288324)

HOLLYWOOD - British actor Ian McShane is furious over the way HBO cancelled his acclaimed western series Deadwood.

The network pulled the plug on Deadwood last month, just weeks before the show's third season began.

And McShane, who won a Golden Globe for his portrayal of Al Swearengen in the drama, is unhappy with the decision.

He tells the New York Daily News, "I thought the whole thing was handled shabbily. But what the f**k, HBO and Deadwood have been very good to me.

"However, I think what's been lost in everybody slapping each other on the back, with a possible two two-hour movies to wrap up the series after this season, is that Deadwood is one of the most acclaimed series on TV. A truly great show. So I was initially shocked. And now I'm sad.

"You'll never know what the f**k really happened.

"And we'll see if the two-hour movies come to fruition or not. Part of me prefers it to six one-hour shows, because in a two-hour movie you can play with space and time and cover more material.

"Look, I loved playing this part. I love the way HBO handled everything up to this point.

"I think we needed four or five seasons to finish telling the story. I just thought it was odd to cancel the series before season three was even on the air. Whether this was some devious publicity ploy to get more people to watch or not, who knows.

"But the f**king story of Deadwood wasn't finished, man. So I'm sad about it being cancelled like this."
   704. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4288364)
I bought the box set of "Deadwood" and there is a roughly 1/2 hr bit where creator David Milch,talks about some of the stories they had lined up such as the fire at Swearingen's place etc before the plug got pulled.

Milch's End to "Deadwood"
   705. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 01:00 PM (#4288367)
I've read that before but I still have no idea where they would have gone with Deadwood and how it would have been as good as it was in the first three seasons.

Hearst has left the camp and Alma has sold her claim. There really is no battles left to fight at that point.
   706. Gaelan Posted: October 30, 2012 at 01:46 PM (#4288423)
Anyone read the novel Deadwood, by Pete Dexter. It's good.
   707. bachslunch Posted: October 30, 2012 at 02:57 PM (#4288488)
For oldie-hotties, agree fully with Grace Kelly and Ava Gardner. Will also mention Sophia Loren in her younger days and Mary Tyler Moore during her "Dick Van Dyke Show" period.

One really disparate couple in terms of attractiveness would definitely be Brian Posehn (the mail guy from "Just Shoot Me") and his wife Melanie Truhett.

   708. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 03:02 PM (#4288495)
Which one's the unattractive one?
   709. Ron J2 Posted: October 30, 2012 at 03:20 PM (#4288523)
does anyone other than me positively love the 3:45 cut of Once Upon a Time in America?


It's certainly a favorite of mine.
   710. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: October 30, 2012 at 03:37 PM (#4288540)
I was actually ok with the way Deadwood ended even though I wanted more. I felt like that was better than forcing a grand conclusion
   711. smileyy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 03:48 PM (#4288551)
I could see Deadwood ending properly with a bookend of the way it started -- with another sign of "civilization" coming to Deadwood. IIRC, it opened with the telegraph line being run to Deadwood?
   712. bachslunch Posted: October 30, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4288554)
Best picture Oscar winners, for me at least. Only counts ones I've seen.

Yes: All Quiet on the Western Front, It Happened One Night, Mutiny on the Bounty, Life of Emile Zola, Gone With the Wind, Rebecca, Casablanca, Going My Way, Lost Weekend, Best Years of Our Lives, All the King's Men, An American in Paris, From Here to Eternity, On the Waterfront, Marty, Bridge on the River Kwai, Ben Hur, The Apartment, West Side Story, Lawrence of Arabia, My Fair Lady, Midnight Cowboy, Patton, The Sting, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Rocky, Annie Hall, Terms of Endearment, Chariots of Fire, Out of Africa, The Last Emperor, Rain Man, Unforgiven, Schindler's List, American Beauty, A Beautiful Mind, Lord of the Rings Part 3, Million Dollar Baby, Slumdog Millionaire

Worth viewing but too dated for me at time seen: Grand Hotel, You Can't Take It With You, How Green Was My Valley, Tom Jones, Platoon.

On the fence: The Godfather Part 2, The Deer Hunter, Ordinary People, Kramer vs. Kramer, Dances with Wolves, The English Patient, Shakespeare in Love, The King's Speech.

No: Gentleman's Agreement, The Sound of Music, The Godfather, Forrest Gump.

Freely acknowledge that one man's "dated" is another's "vital" and vice versa.

Of nominated non Oscar winners from the 90s I've seen.

Yes: Ghost, Goodfellas, Beauty and the Beast, The Crying Game, Quiz Show, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Apollo 13, Shawshank Redemption, Babe, Fargo, As Good as It Gets, The Full Monty, Good Will Hunting, Life Is Beautiful, The Cider House Rules.

No: Awakenings, The Piano, Pulp Fiction.

Also a no for The Big Lebowski.

As they say, your mileage may vary.
   713. bachslunch Posted: October 30, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4288557)
One really disparate couple in terms of attractiveness would definitely be Brian Posehn (the mail guy from "Just Shoot Me") and his wife Melanie Truhett.

McCoy asked: Which one's the unattractive one?

I'd think most anyone loses out big-time to Posehn, actually.
   714. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4288565)
I hate Terms of Endearment, although I've never seen it. It beat out my all-favorite movie, The Right Stuff, for best picture. It's been almost 30 years, but I'm still bitter about it.
   715. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4288566)
Have not seen:
The Artist
Chicago
Shakespeare in Love
**Titanic*** Seen parts of it at a time so I've probably seen all of it.
The English Patient
Out of Africa
**Amadeus***
Terms of Endearment
Ordinary People
Kramer vs Kramer
Annie Hall
A Man for all Seasons
Tom Jones
The Apartment
Gigi
Marty
On the Waterfront


Before 1952 it is easier to list what I did see:
Casablanca
Gone With The Wind
It Happened One Night
All Quiet on the Western Front
Wings



   716. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4288585)
What are the worst Oscar upsets of all time? Not the worst movies necessarily, but the mediocre movies that beat what should have been the clear winner? (e.g., Juan Gonzalez beating ARod for MVP).

- Crash beating Brokeback Mountain
- A Beautiful Mind beating LOTR and Moulin Rouge
- Titanic beating LA Confidential (although Titanic is an amazing spectacle)
- English Patient beating Fargo
- Forrest Gump beating Pulp Fiction and The Shawshank Redemption
- Dances with Wolves beating Goodfellas (although I think DWW is pretty good)
- Out of Africa beating the Color Purple and Witness
- Terms of Endearment and the Right Stuff
- Chariots of Fire beating Raiders
- Rocky beating Network and Taxi Driver (although Rocky is good)
- Kramer vs. Kramer beating Apocalypse Now and Breaking Away

I don't like braveheart, but none of the other movies that year were great IIRC.

Putting Terms of Endearment and The RIght Stuff aside, I think it has to be Forrest Gump. PF and TSR are alltime great movies IMO, and FG annoyed the hell out of me.


   717. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4288591)
I've read that before but I still have no idea where they would have gone with Deadwood and how it would have been as good as it was in the first three seasons.


All the townsfolk are forced to barricade themselves together inside the Gem, in order to resist an onslaught of carnivorous mountain Yeti. But when the doors are breached, it's every whore for herself!
   718. Swedish Chef Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4288592)
Slightly on topic: Disney buys Lucasfilm for $4B, Star Wars 7 planned for 2015.
   719. just plain joe Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4288599)
For oldie-hotties, agree fully with Grace Kelly and Ava Gardner. Will also mention Sophia Loren in her younger days and Mary Tyler Moore during her "Dick Van Dyke Show" period.


A late vote for Marlo Thomas; my (then) teenage self thought her quite attractive in the "That Girl" era.
   720. smileyy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:26 PM (#4288604)
I really enjoyed Brian Posehn dying in The Devil's Rejects. I loved that movie, by the way. I think its a modern pulp classic.
   721. smileyy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:26 PM (#4288605)
A late vote for Marlo Thomas


I read this and my brain jumped to "Marlo Stanfield"
   722. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:32 PM (#4288611)
I've seen all but one movie to win Best Picture through 2000 (I somehow missed Mrs. Miniver), and have only seen one (LOTR 3) to win since then. Weird, now that I think of it. Since 2000 I've seen some highbrow stuff and some dreck, just never managed to hit the sweet spot between the two.

Star Wars 7 planned for 2015.


I wonder if this is Episode VII or Episode IIIa. VII would mean ewoks, which would suck, so we'll pretend that it's IIIa. IIIa would presumably feature Darth Vader et al going around massacring the last surviving Jedi, which could be fun if it's heavy on the massacring and light on cute kids and aliens speaking pidgin English. I assume that by IIIc or IIId the Empire will be invading Mon Calamari and enslaving Mayor Ackbar of Coral Depths City, presumably through the use of some sort of trap.

   723. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:35 PM (#4288614)
I read this and my brain jumped to "Marlo Stanfield"


You want it to be one way, but it's the other way ...
   724. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:45 PM (#4288623)
Slightly on topic: Disney buys Lucasfilm for $4B, Star Wars 7 planned for 2015.


It's a trap!


Also Claudia Cardinale was hotter than Sophia Loren.
   725. Rennie's Tenet Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4288626)
Have not seen:

...On the Waterfront


This is the one on the list that really has to be seen. Top 5 drama.
   726. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:48 PM (#4288627)
Star Wars 7 planned for 2015.


Oh boy, another opportunity to add a new "Disney Princess" to the marketing empire!
   727. Rennie's Tenet Posted: October 30, 2012 at 04:57 PM (#4288641)
Also Claudia Cardinale was hotter than Sophia Loren.


Claudia was more girlish, Sophia was more womanly.
   728. Bitter Mouse Posted: October 30, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4288649)
How has Ann Margaret not been mentioned so far.

Anyway not sure what to think about Star Wars ep. 7. SW does seem a good fit in the Disney Empire though.

The Shawshank Redemption is a great great movie. pulp fiction would have also been a fine winner. Forest Gump was an OK movie.
   729. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 05:06 PM (#4288651)
I would guess it will be #7 and not 3a. Harrison Ford will be in it and it will be about the struggle to hold on to what one gained while also maintaining the ideals and core beliefs that led you to fight in the first place.
   730. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4288653)
Also Raquel Welch was the first celebrity to cause a stirring in my loins followed by Madonna.
   731. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 30, 2012 at 05:14 PM (#4288667)
and Arnuld set to be a in a new Conan movie

Arnold in new Conan movie

No truth to the rumor that it will be entitled "Conan the saggy"

And the first woman to move my loins was Linda Carter.
   732. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4288670)
Erin Grey.

Beedee, beedee, beedee, indeed.
   733. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4288677)
I don't know if it will result in good things or terrible things, but Pixar buying LucasFilm is a good thing for the world at large.
   734. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: October 30, 2012 at 05:49 PM (#4288707)
Erin Grey.


Oooh yeah. I'm convinced she caused my puberty to appear about six months earlier than nature intended.
   735. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 30, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4288732)
The princess from Buck Rodgers was pretty hot too.
   736. Bitter Mouse Posted: October 30, 2012 at 06:33 PM (#4288741)
Erin Grey.


I met her at a convention a few years back and it brought on fond memories.
   737. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4288754)
Just discovered the History Channel's The Men Who Built America about 5 minutes ago. The premise intrigues me but about 30 seconds into it they cut to Trump as one of their experts so that kind of hurts it. Plus instead of just being a straight documentary they decided to go with mostly silent LARP with a narrator and soundtrack setup to try and create tension. So not a promising start but it is good to see the channel getting back to actual history.
   738. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 06:56 PM (#4288761)
Mary Tyler Moore during her "Dick Van Dyke Show" period


Yes, and WTF happened to her by the time the MTM Show rolled around?

Ann Margaret circa Viva Las Vegas. Yes.
   739. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 06:59 PM (#4288763)
Natalie Wood.
   740. Lassus Posted: October 30, 2012 at 10:50 PM (#4288907)
Headline in Yahoo: Will Disney Ruin Star Wars Franchise?

Are you ####### KIDDING me? Ruin? They at least have a CHANCE of making a good film, unlike Lucas.

   741. McCoy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM (#4288911)
Maybe if they give the job to Pixar.
   742. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:01 PM (#4288916)
Are you ####### KIDDING me? Ruin? They at least have a CHANCE of making a good film, unlike Lucas.

This is exactly my feeling about about the sale. There is now a chance that there might a good Star Wars movie made, and there wasn't one before. This is a net win, that will yield more awesome Star Wars video games (hey, maybe they will finally resurrect the X-Wing series now that they are doing sequels) and cartoon shows to go along with the potential of a good new movie.
   743. PreservedFish Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:05 PM (#4288922)
Lucas must have been impressed by John Carter.
   744. Lassus Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4288931)
Lucas must have been impressed by John Carter.

John Carter was great fun. Not any kind of masterpiece, but more a failure of promotion than product.
   745. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4288936)
Saw Argo today. I enjoyed it but I'm not sure why there's awards talk around it.
   746. PreservedFish Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4288940)
I think I watched John Carter after you recommended it. I think "great fun" is exaggerating. It was a shitty movie, but not so shitty that it was impossible to enjoy. In my opinion, of course.
   747. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4288942)
Dorothy Malone. Her cameo in The Big Sleep is The Yes.
   748. Lassus Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4288952)
I think I watched John Carter after you recommended it. I think "great fun" is exaggerating. It was a shitty movie, but not so shitty that it was impossible to enjoy. In my opinion, of course.

-LAUGHTER-

Well, sorry? Heh. I enjoyed it. It had a giant pug monster.
   749. PreservedFish Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:40 PM (#4288954)
I enjoyed it too. I was in the right mood. I just wouldn't recommend it to anyone else.
   750. Rennie's Tenet Posted: October 30, 2012 at 11:46 PM (#4288958)
Dorothy Malone


Inger Stevens, TV/movie actress of the sixties (who died young) looked a lot like Malone, and probably would have joined Malone, Dorothy Provine, and Stella Stevens in what Bill James would have called "The Angie Dickinson Family" of actresses.

   751. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 31, 2012 at 02:53 AM (#4289029)
and Arnuld set to be a in a new Conan movie


That could work. Some of the original Howard stories are about Conan's old age. Maybe an adaptation of "The Scarlet Citadel" or "The Phoenix on the Sword" (awesome alternate title: "By This Axe I Rule!")?
   752. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 31, 2012 at 03:52 AM (#4289037)
"What is good in life is to crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to fall asleep watching 'Wheel of Fortune'."
--Conan the Octogenarian
   753. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 31, 2012 at 06:09 AM (#4289047)
Another Star Wars? No thank you. I'll just wait for the Red Letter review of it.

I loved Conan the Barbarian. I've been waiting for that King Conan sequel they promised for 30 years!
   754. Lassus Posted: October 31, 2012 at 06:46 AM (#4289053)
Another Star Wars? No thank you. I'll just wait for the Red Letter review of it. Whi

Without Lucas, there is no Red Letter review.

Which is fine with me; I hated the sequels, but I still want that guy's vocal cords cut.
   755. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 31, 2012 at 06:52 AM (#4289056)
Which is fine with me; I hated the sequels, but I still want that guy's vocal cords cut.

I thought the persona was funny. I don't think you need Lucas for the reviews. They've also done some reviews of the Star Trek Next Generation abominations.
   756. bachslunch Posted: October 31, 2012 at 11:59 AM (#4289226)
Mary Tyler Moore during her "Dick Van Dyke Show" period

Ray asked: Yes, and WTF happened to her by the time the MTM Show rolled around?

My guess would be a few more years and beginning of effects from diabetes, though for my taste she's plenty attractive even in the 1970s.

Good calls above re Marlo Thomas, Angie Dickenson, Dorothy Provine, Dorothy Malone, Stella Stevens, Raquel Welch, Inger Stevens.

Definitely need to include Ursula Andress, Jacqueline Bisset, and Brigitte Bardot.

Another worthy TV choice from the 60s would be Julie Newmar -- plenty fine-looking both as a "Living Doll" and in a Catwoman suit. Barbara Feldon from "Get Smart," Barbara Eden from "I Dream of Jeannie," Donna Douglas from "The Beverly Hillbillies," and (from the 70s) Jan Hooks from "WKRP in Cincinnati" aren't too shabby, either.

And nothing wrong with Maureen McCormick (Marcia Brady) if you're a teen guy hoping to have a hot-looking prom date on his arm.
   757. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: October 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM (#4289255)
Dorothy Malone. Her cameo in The Big Sleep is The Yes.

I'd call that her one scene rather than a cameo, but she and Bogie out-spark Bacall and Bogie in that movie. I could have seen a youthful me committing crimes for Agnes** too.

First loin-stirrer: Diana Rigg as Emma Peel, especially those black leather skin tight pants.



** Mother of erstwhile child actor Mason Reese!!! Who knew?
   758. zonk Posted: October 31, 2012 at 12:34 PM (#4289264)
Star Wars 7 planned for 2015.



I wonder if this is Episode VII or Episode IIIa. VII would mean ewoks, which would suck, so we'll pretend that it's IIIa. IIIa would presumably feature Darth Vader et al going around massacring the last surviving Jedi, which could be fun if it's heavy on the massacring and light on cute kids and aliens speaking pidgin English. I assume that by IIIc or IIId the Empire will be invading Mon Calamari and enslaving Mayor Ackbar of Coral Depths City, presumably through the use of some sort of trap.


I eagerly welcome and await this - if only for the sheer derision and sniping that I am sure to enjoy.

   759. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM (#4289268)
I thought the persona was funny. I don't think you need Lucas for the reviews. They've also done some reviews of the Star Trek Next Generation abominations.

No, those are done, at least, the Star Wars ones are. Disney has the probably most aggressive copyright policy in this country, whereas Lucas and Lucasfilm had probably one of the most lax copyright policies in the country among major media companies. I am actually going to watch those soon before Disney has them taken down. Here is a good article on what the transition will mean for Star Wars fan fiction and movies
   760. SoSH U at work Posted: October 31, 2012 at 01:04 PM (#4289287)
Jan Hooks from "WKRP in Cincinnati" aren't too shabby, either.


That's Jan Smithers. Jan Hooks was from SNL, though the linked photo somewhere above suggests she's lost a little off her fastball.

   761. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 31, 2012 at 01:14 PM (#4289295)
- Out of Africa beating the Color Purple and Witness
Out of Africa is fantastic and deserved its Oscar. Witness, otoh, is fairly formulaic (big-city cop goes undercover, falls in love with woman he's protecting). I didn't see Purple.
   762. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 31, 2012 at 01:17 PM (#4289302)
Jan [Smithers] from "WKRP in Cincinnati" aren't too shabby, either.


She was the 80s version of Mary-Ann from "Gilligan's Island".

The bombshell in the show was the one that was supposed to get all the attention (Jennifer or Ginger), but I ALWAYS found myself more attracted to the "regular" girl (Bailey Quarters or Mary-Ann).
   763. Lassus Posted: October 31, 2012 at 01:23 PM (#4289308)
I wonder if this is Episode VII or Episode IIIa. VII would mean ewoks, which would suck, so we'll pretend that it's IIIa.

Disagree. There's no need to return to the Ewoks beyond a 30-second cameo or callback, and I personally hope there's no more going-backward prequel garbage, I have had enough of that in all franchises and universes. Forward, b!tches.
   764. billyshears Posted: October 31, 2012 at 01:44 PM (#4289319)
She's tough to beat in season one of 24 and The Girl Next Door.


The Girl Next Door is an excellent film. Truly.
   765. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 31, 2012 at 01:47 PM (#4289321)
I hated "The Master" for some of the reasons stated for other movies. It was way too long and ultimately had no point. If any movie would have benefited by being an HBO style series , it would have been "Public Enemies" which took a very interesting part of the 20th century and made it dull somehow. Plus not to mention they bastardized the story too much by adding things that didnt happen and cutting out some of the other criminals that were part of the book.
   766. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: October 31, 2012 at 02:21 PM (#4289352)
I ALWAYS found myself more attracted to the "regular" girl (Bailey Quarters or Mary-Ann).

Scorching-hot women who don't seem to know they're scorching hot are FLNRSA kryptonite.
   767. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 31, 2012 at 02:47 PM (#4289384)
Have not seen:
The Artist Artsy (of course) and overrated, although not terrible
Chicago Me neither. Don't think I want to.
Shakespeare in Love Me neither.
**Titanic*** Seen parts of it at a time so I've probably seen all of it. How did Lifetime miss bankrolling this movie?
The English Patient Excruciating
Out of Africa Not bad.
**Amadeus*** Pretty good
Terms of Endearment See "Titanic"
Ordinary People Wrist-slitter . Mary Tyler Moore against type
Kramer vs Kramer ok. not great.
Annie Hall Woody Allen in NYC. Not my thing
A Man for all Seasons me neither
Tom Jones me neither
The Apartment me neither
Gigi ok. not my thing, again
Marty pretty good.
On the Waterfront
very good.
   768. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 31, 2012 at 04:09 PM (#4289460)
Is this the proper thread to brag that I've never seen any of the Star Wars or Lord of the Rings movies?
   769. SoSH U at work Posted: October 31, 2012 at 04:26 PM (#4289473)
Is this the proper thread to brag that I've never seen any of the Star Wars or Lord of the Rings movies?


I didn't know it was a talent.

For the record, I've only seen the first and second SW movies (chronologically speaking, though I believe Lucas has subsequently renamed the first one something like Star Wars Pi: Register of the Trademark), and I didn't see any of the LotR movies. I just never saw that as something to crow about. (-:

   770. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 31, 2012 at 05:04 PM (#4289504)
I've never eaten cantaloupe!
   771. smileyy Posted: October 31, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4289511)
[768] Not really. The Fellowship of the Ring (the first of the LOTR movies), especially the extended edition, is a triumph of filmmaking.

The others were pretty, but kind of a mess from plot adaptations and pacing.
   772. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: October 31, 2012 at 05:20 PM (#4289518)
The Fellowship of the Ring (the first of the LOTR movies), especially the extended edition, is a triumph of filmmaking.

Both Amazing GF and I had identical (separate) reactions to this one: first wondering "When the #### is this going to END?" and then cracking up when it just sort of... stops.

But, hey, if I take one more step, I'll be further from home than I've ever been before!
[says same thing every step until drops dead from exhaustion]
   773. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: November 01, 2012 at 01:51 AM (#4289758)
i'm just starting to watch "the larry sanders show" on netflix. so far, so good.


   774. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:12 AM (#4289762)
oh, and in case it hasn't been linked here, GQ did an oral history type article on "cheers". it is really good.
   775. McCoy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 07:47 AM (#4289811)
I took my then girlfriend to see The Fellowship in the theater the week it came out. She did not like it and we ended up having a knock down drag out fight all the way home because it made her so cranky. The first one is the worst of the bunch in my opinion.
   776. Rants Mulliniks Posted: November 01, 2012 at 07:52 AM (#4289816)
Is this the proper thread to brag that I've never seen any of the Star Wars or Lord of the Rings movies?


I wouldn't call it bragging, but I've made it to age 37 without having seen any of the Godfather movies or Good Fellas..... I need to rememdy that, I know. I have nothing against gangster movies.

I loved all of the LOTR movies, and am looking forward to the Hobbit trilogy.
   777. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 09:50 AM (#4289877)
I didn't really care for the LOTR movies (or books), but I already know I'm going to have to see The Hobbit movies with my girlfriend (I know, what a tragedy). I'm wondering if I should read the book (given that I couldn't get through Fellowship) or just not bother.
   778. JJ1986 Posted: November 01, 2012 at 09:54 AM (#4289881)
The Hobbit is a much faster-paced book with a pretty different style, so I'd at least give it a try.
   779. PreservedFish Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4289893)
Is this the proper thread to brag that I've never seen any of the Star Wars or Lord of the Rings movies?


Why haven't you?
   780. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4289919)
Never read LOTR, saw one of the movies, it was fine.

Back in the day (mid-70s), my college friends fixated on "Bored of the Rings" and could quote it chapter and verse. I eventually read that. It had a certain charm but was a notch below Weird Al level, IMO.

Jar Jar Binks put an end to Star Wars for me. I can still watch the original 3 if they happen to pop up on TV.

[776] I would suggest seeing the Godfather movies first. I don't know if Scorsese did it on purpose or not, but the influence of drugs in the Henry Hill story (Goodfellas) is presaged in the GF movies.

As a big advocate of seeing classic movies on the big screen, go see the Godfathers on the big screen if you can (i.e., if they are playing at some local artsy-fartsy theater, it's worth it). I don't know if Goodfellas needs the big screen necessarily.
   781. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:41 AM (#4289936)
Both Amazing GF and I had identical (separate) reactions to this one: first wondering "When the #### is this going to END?" and then cracking up when it just sort of... stops.

When it ended, a guy in the front JUMPED out of his seat and shouted "oh no you didn't! I'm gonna call the mayor!"
Mass laughter ensued.
Anyway, the subsequent LOTR movies improve upon the first.

I've never seen (definitely not bragging here): Citizen Kane, Rear Window or North by Northwest or Double Indemnity, Das Boot, The Third Man (enjoyed the 1st 20 min), The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, or (uh) the Nolan Batman movies after the first one. I am decidedly not averse to seeing any of these, it just hasn't happened.
   782. McCoy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:58 AM (#4289962)
I did not realize they were going to turn The Hobbit into a trilogy but I should have expected it.
   783. Booey Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:08 PM (#4290040)
I wouldn't call it bragging, but I've made it to age 37 without having seen any of the Godfather movies or Good Fellas..... I need to rememdy that, I know. I have nothing against gangster movies.

I loved all of the LOTR movies, and am looking forward to the Hobbit trilogy.


I'm in the exact same boat as everything mentioned above (though I've only made it to 33 rather than 37). I've seen very few movies that came out before the 80's.

LOTR is one of the rare times where the movies surpassed the books, IMO. And it's not even close.
   784. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:09 PM (#4290041)
I've seen too many movies to the point that it takes a lot for me to be surprised at a plot twist now. Most of the time I am happy when I see a movie and the dialog is good.
   785. Swedish Chef Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4290088)
I did not realize they were going to turn The Hobbit into a trilogy but I should have expected it.

I can't wait until they are scraping the barrel and make the Tom Bombadill trilogy. Of course, there's plenty of filmable stuff in the Silmarillion*, the story of Turin being all grimdark and Games-of-Throney even. So I may never see Old Tom dancing through the Old Forest. Sniff.

*) Executive summary: Self-exiled elves (including some not-very-nice ones teetering on the brink of psychopathy) battle the evil overlord for stolen treasures, they have initial success, but are then mauled over and over again until deus-ex-machina time.
   786. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 01, 2012 at 01:54 PM (#4290169)
This seems like as good a place as any to let other Venture Bros fans know that if they missed the Halloween Special, it's on Adultswim.com and it is crazy awesome. It just drove up my anticipation for the new season through the roof.

i'm just starting to watch "the larry sanders show" on netflix. so far, so good.

Hey now! I loved that show. I think it stays pretty darn funny all the way through the end. I think it's the only HBO show that has made it to Netflix and it is a good way to kill a couple of weeks.
   787. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: November 01, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4290178)
LOTR is one of the rare times where the movies surpassed the books, IMO. And it's not even close.


They're very different in spirit. Tolkien was setting out to write a Medieval romance, and he came closer to it than any other 20th century author. The movies don't really feel like that. The books are extremely successful in areas that the movies barely attempt -- the endless songs that people tend to skip over are much of the point of the whole enterprise, and get very little play in the movies. The movies have a lot of action, while the books tend to skim over the actual action, save for a few speeches and some mentions of fell deeds and whatnot.

It's not really an apples to apples comparison. I think the movies are more inspired by the books than films of the books. This is a statement and not a complaint; the books as written are pretty much unfilmable. So the movies are necessarily very different, and it's to the credit of Peter Jackson et al that they deviated from the books in ways that made them into good movies.

I'm not sure if I could say which is "better", in the same way I couldn't say if a symphony is better than the painting it was based on. I personally think that the books are a greater achievement in their realm than the movies are in theirs. I can understand an argument against this, but I think the books are greater.
   788. Bitter Mouse Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:11 PM (#4290187)
I loved the books* and really liked the movies (though less with each movie). Both are fun and different. and I never cease to be amazed at people who proudly proclaim their cultural ignorance like a badge of honor. I mean I don't care one way or another how you spend your entertainment time or dollar, but it isn't anythign to be proud of that you have not watched or done X.

Knew a guy in college whose family did not watch TV ever growing up and wow was he proud he did not understand any of the culutural references from them. It is a valid choice. I for example refuse to watch "reality" TV, but I don't run around bragging about it. Why would I? It is just a choice I make.

* Here is where I admit I have skipped over all the songs and poems in the books and basically everything in italics and have every intention of ignoring them forever. I tried to read a couple my first time through the series and since then I have tried again, but they have no interest to me and disrupt the flow of the books for me, so I just skip past. I have friends that insist I am missing the best parts of the story, but I am fine with that.
   789. hokieneer Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:17 PM (#4290192)
This seems like as good a place as any to let other Venture Bros fans know that if they missed the Halloween Special, it's on Adultswim.com and it is crazy awesome. It just drove up my anticipation for the new season through the roof.


I'm heading over there right now.

Venture Bros is weird for me. Every single time I have watched a single episode, whether on AS, internet, friend's house, etc; I have loved the show. At the same time I can't seem to be bothered to remember to set the DVR or set down to watch the DVDs. Same thing with Archer and the last few years of South Park (in my defense, SP has overall not lived up to previous expectations and very uneven the last 2-3 seasons)
   790. Swedish Chef Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:48 PM (#4290208)
They're very different in spirit.

The films tell a story, the book was an exercise in world-building.
   791. Random Transaction Generator Posted: November 01, 2012 at 03:00 PM (#4290219)
I could never get through to the end of the first book of the LOTR trilogy. I just got bored with the unnecessary "world-building", as SC describes it.

However, I liked the LOTR movies.

I was disheartened to hear that The Hobbit is going to be a trilogy. Where are the natural breaks for the endings to the first two movies?

I've never seen (definitely not bragging here): Citizen Kane, Rear Window or North by Northwest


I think everyone needs to see Citizen Kane so they can at least have an opinion on why most critics call it the best movie ever made. Whether they agree or not is their own opinion.

NxNW is probably my favourite "film studies" movie. It is often used in high school/university film studies courses as an example for whatever the teacher wants to cover: plot, characters, location, dialogue, camera angles. It also has one of the best dialogue-free scenes in non-silent movie history (the crop duster).

Rear Window is one of my top 10 because it's a nice tight little plot with great acting and (to bring it around to the original topic) absolutely stunning Grace Kelly. There have been women that have make me lust for them, but NO other woman has ever stopped me in my tracks with just her beauty like Grace Kelly.
   792. Bitter Mouse Posted: November 01, 2012 at 03:05 PM (#4290229)
I think everyone needs to see


I agree and would include Casa Blanca in the list. A great movie and iconic in so many ways. Gone with the Wind probably also belongs though it is not as good a movie (though it is pretty good).
   793. Bitter Mouse Posted: November 01, 2012 at 03:20 PM (#4290239)
I was disheartened to hear that The Hobbit is going to be a trilogy. Where are the natural breaks for the endings to the first two movies?/quote]

No idea what the natural breaks are. I have heard that the story is expanded thoughwith some other material in the JRR canon and maybe some links to LotR stories, so I am not sure even knowing the Hobbit back and forth would let you know where the breaks were.
   794. Papa Squid Posted: November 01, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4290260)
Word is they're gonna add the stuff in the LOTR Appendices that took place during the Hobbit... Gandalf and the Council taking down the Necromancer and such.
   795. McCoy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 03:45 PM (#4290265)
Is the Hobbit the one where they slay the dragon by having a ranger shoot the dragon in the chest where a scale is missing?
   796. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: November 01, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4290290)
Double Indemnity, Das Boot, The Third Man (enjoyed the 1st 20 min), The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Double Indemnity is not to miss. Edward G. Robinson is terrific, the hurt he feels is palpable. While Barbara Stanwyck and Fred MacMurray aren't 21st century standards of romantic leads, the sparks and desparation between them is wonderful. Billy Wilder (I think he has leapfrogged Hitchcock and Scorsese as my favorite director) keeps the tension going from beginning to the very end. DON'T MISS.

Das Boot will have your nails chewed off by the end. Another to see on the big screen if you can.

TotSM is very good, nice work by Bogie and Walter Huston chews the scenery. And it's worth it just for the "Badges" scene. :)

EDIT: The Third Man is great with a terrific paranoic feeling in divided Vienna post-War. Orson Welles does evil civility really, really well. The zither music might be a bit much for some ears. :)
   797. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 01, 2012 at 04:44 PM (#4290317)
Is the Hobbit the one where they slay the dragon by having a ranger shoot the dragon in the chest where a scale is missing?


Yeah, that's the one.
   798. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 01, 2012 at 05:16 PM (#4290351)
Oh, I'll see all the ones I mentioned at some point. Heck, I've taped or rented all of them at one time or another, apart from Sierra Madre - just haven't seen more than a few minutes of them for one reason or another yet.
   799. Moeball Posted: November 01, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4290490)
First loin-stirrer: Diana Rigg as Emma Peel, especially those black leather skin tight pants.


Amen.

For the old-timers, I didn't read 700 posts or so - did anyone mention Rita Hayworth?

Oh, yeah, I liked Elizabeth Montgomery, too. And she was really, really smart, at least she seemed that way from the times I saw her interviewed and such.
   800. smileyy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 09:43 PM (#4290525)

I could never get through to the end of the first book of the LOTR trilogy. I just got bored with the unnecessary "world-building", as SC describes it.


I'm a huge fan of LOTR, and yeah, the first half of The Fellowship of the Ring is just brutal. JRR needed an editor for that -- you can even see his style change throughout the books, away from that languid storytelling. And I realize some of that is supposed to mirror the growing worldliness of the Hobbits, I think some of it is just "That style wasn't working anymore". Meta-fiction it may be, but good fiction it isn't.
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