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Wednesday, August 06, 2014

Fresno Grizzlies ‘TMNT Night’ featured a cosplay wedding proposal

I’ve heard of the Splendid Splinter, but this is ridiculous!

The Fresno Grizzlies minor league baseball team flooded the Internet in the past couple weeks leading up to their “TMNT Night,” which by all accounts was a rousing success. There were Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles-themed jerseys and hats, the Turtles even showed up in person, free pizza was given away, the team mascot dressed up like Splinter. Good times were had by all.

In fact, it was even a life-changing night, as two TMNT superfans GOT ENGAGED ON THE FIELD.

The District Attorney Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:00 AM | 74 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. zonk Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:45 AM (#4765500)
I don't know what it is, but I find TMNT to be the most stupefyingly annoying and dumbass thing in the history of things.

I was certainly just beyond - though only by a year or two - the age demographic target for the initial explosion of this thing back in the day. Even then, though, when you rank all the Saturday morning cartoon ensembles, child icons, etc -- I'd have put them dead last behind, well everything, in terms of affection.

It boggles my mind that anyone saw fit to reimage them.

They just seem like the most perfect exemplar of milquetoast boardroom table fad creation... Hey - let's take Garfield's love of lasagna and make it pizza, make the characters teenagers and oh yeah - mutants - to give 'em an edge, leverage the beloved Karate kid franchise maybe with a not-so-sly nod to martial arts cinema genre... and sure, why not name them after painters to pretend it's not as lowbrow as it all sounds. Oh yeah - and don't forget to make them all sound like Spicoli from Fast Times.

Artificial kitchen sink kitsch.

With apologies to anyone that thinks fondly of it - but I find the entire franchise and everything associated with it to be complete and utter drek... and I'm generally a rather sentimental guy when it comes to stupid fads from my youth.
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:07 PM (#4765528)
I am quite liberal on gay marriage and feel any two people that fall in love should be allowed to get married. But not these two.
   3. Bitter Mouse Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4765546)
I am not a TMNT fan (not against either), but wow you guys are harsh. It started as an amusing send up on Daredevil and other comic properties and became crazy popular, but that doesn't make it terrible or anything. That said I have zero interest in the new movie.
   4. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4765554)
I think the original incarnation of the Turtles (mid-1980s) was darker than the version that became super popular.

I was in middle school from 1989-1992, and have fond memories of watching the cartoon TV show in that time. The arcade game was a load of fun. Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady are great villain names.

The Saturday morning cartoon I really remember liking was "Galaxy Rangers", although mainly what I remember is a cool theme song.

   5. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:54 PM (#4765560)
The Saturday morning cartoon I really remember liking was "Galaxy Rangers", although mainly what I remember is a cool theme song.
Battle of the Planets!
   6. zonk Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:55 PM (#4765561)
I suppose I probably am being harsh -- was surprised to read on wikipedia that TMNT actually did start as a single issue parody comic, but it sure reads like the merchandising and media explosion was precisely as I described if it's true that the original was darker.

Like I said, can't explain why I revile it so much... maybe I was bitten by a turtle in my childhood and I've blocked out the memory.
   7. The District Attorney Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4765563)
I don't know what it is, but I find TMNT to be the most stupefyingly annoying and dumbass thing in the history of things.
Classic BBTF thread opener!

I think the original incarnation of the Turtles (mid-1980s) was darker than the version that became super popular.
I wouldn't necessarily describe it as "darker", but it wasn't targeted to kids, anyway -- it was targeted to comic geeks. As mentioned, it was a sendup of Daredevil and the other comics that kicked off the "grim and gritty" era. It was essentially intended to be silly, in the pursuit of satire. The funny part is that I'm sure millions more people now know about the "Foot Clan" than ever knew about the "Hand" from Daredevil that inspired it. (And that joke gives you an idea of the kind of Mad-magazine-esque parody we were originally talking about.)

But anyway, yeah, of course kid stuff that you were too old for is gonna look stupid.

I'm too lazy to dig up, but I predict someone else will, the XKCD comic pointing out that the alternating-stress rhythm of the title -- TEEN-age MU-tant NIN-ja TURT-les -- seems to in and of itself communicate something to the human ear. That was an interesting observation.
   8. Greg K Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:59 PM (#4765566)
The Saturday morning cartoon I really remember liking was "Galaxy Rangers", although mainly what I remember is a cool theme song.

My favourite Saturday morning 'toons were X-Men and Eek the Cat.

Though blowing even those impressive institutions away was The Tick, which I still bust out and watch every now and then.

On the other side Captain Planet was an abomination that for some reason I saw enough of to have the theme song permanently stuck in my head.

EDIT: As for the turtles, I enjoyed them as a kid, though the video games more than anything else. TMNT 2: The Arcade Game was a triumph of the Double Dragon-style genre (though Battle Toads was also fun). But the original TMNT game is often over-looked, and I think quite good too, although my favourite turtle, Raphael was worse than useless in it.
   9. zonk Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:01 PM (#4765570)
But anyway, yeah, of course kid stuff that you were too old for is gonna look stupid.


Thing is, though - I've actually watched a fair number of old... cartoon/cultural phenomena/etc from my youth. I recently downloaded the old Thundarr the Barbarian Hanna Barbara cartons - still like 'em. I'm mildly amused by the staying power of Scooby Doo and company. Even the Smurfs - and I have zero desire to see any of the movie remix - I remember fondly. I've played exactly one game of D&D in my entire life - but I stumbled across an old D&D Saturday morning cartoon and thought "you know, not half bad."

TMNT, though?

Nope.
   10. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:08 PM (#4765577)
I think the original incarnation of the Turtles (mid-1980s) was darker than the version that became super popular.


They were, and the first edition was pretty interesting to read.

Battle of the Planets!


####, yes! G-Force/Battle of the Planets was my favourite cartoon in my kid years. It is the reason that I was unnecessarily terrified of earthquakes, as there was a scene when one struck a city and people fell into the crack, and then IT CLOSED ON THEM! That freaked me out.

My other favourite cartoon as a kid was watching the syndication run of Wacky Races (in the mid-70s, on Saturday mornings, while eating Honeycomb cereal).

In Canada, I saw a lot of Rocket Robin Hood, Spider-Man, and The Mighty Hercules.
   11. Greg K Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:10 PM (#4765579)
As a side note, this thread has got me looking at old NES gameplay on youtube.

Which one would think would be incredibly dull, watching someone else play a video game. But as a younger brother I learned early on to enjoy watching someone playing Nintendo, so it is somewhat soothing. Also, neither me nor my brother were great gamers, so it's fun to see the conclusions to some games we never completed. My one complaint is that these youtube video uploaders are far too good. There's no suspense, just a guy running around making every move and attack by rote.
   12. caprules Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:17 PM (#4765587)
My favorite cartoon was Star Blazers. I have yet to personally meet anyone since then who watched it or heard of it.
   13. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4765588)
There's no suspense, just a guy running around making every move and attack by rote.



Because some of them are "cheating".
   14. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4765592)
My favorite cartoon was Star Blazers


A battleship in space, right? I liked the amazing battle scenes (especially when the big front gun would fire), but they moved the timeslot for it to when I had running practice after school, so I only watched a couple of episodes in total.
   15. dr. scott Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:21 PM (#4765597)
Battle of the Planets and Starblazers in the late 70's early 80's were gold. Then in my early 20's i went for Animaniacs and The Tick. There was not much in between that I have any real memory of.

Of course i also liked the cartoons that predated my childhood like Rocky and Bulwinkle, George of the jungle etc. at least i think they are from 60's early 70's as they were on the UHF channels.. which i always assumed only showed old programs and repeats.
   16. Greg K Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:22 PM (#4765598)
Because some of them are "cheating".

Once again I am reminded that some people play video games for very different reasons than I do.
   17. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4765607)
Sometime in the late 80s (maybe early 90s?) I went to an animated festival at the Coolidge Corner theatre in Brookline MA, and saw a cartoon that involved winged dinosaurs fighting it out (with other winged dinosaurs? Other dinosaurs generally? People? I *think* the dinosaurs had weapons strapped on as they flew around but very fuzzy). I remember thinking this was the best cartoon ever, but I have no idea what it was. No it was not Dino-Riders.

The critique of TMNT in [1] is kinda funny since, unlike pretty much all the other 80s cartoons that were created specifically to promote a toy line, TMNT were created by actually creative types, not by committee in a boardroom. Though obviously the board did not appreciate or retain any of the satirical elements in adapting it into a TV show, so fair enough.
   18. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:32 PM (#4765608)
But the original TMNT game is often over-looked, and I think quite good too, although my favourite turtle, Raphael was worse than useless in it.


It was pretty difficult, as I recall, and could have benefited from a save/continue feature.
   19. Greg K Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4765609)
It was pretty difficult, as I recall, and could have benefited from a save/continue feature.

Yeah, like pretty much every other NES game I played, I never passed it.

Games were tough back then! At least the GI Joe game (another personal favourite) gave you a password after each completed quest. The save state is a real boon in emulation gaming.
   20. Paul d mobile Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:38 PM (#4765615)
There's an amazing movie from about 5 years ago where the various turtle incarnations run into each other to save all of creation. So the more recent turtles meet the turtles from our youth (the Cow-a-bunga/pizza ones) and don't understand why they don't take things more seriously. Than those 8 turtles end up in the black and white comic timeline and team up with the super serious original turtles to take out Shredder Prime.
   21. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:44 PM (#4765624)
####, yes! G-Force/Battle of the Planets was my favourite cartoon in my kid years.
I'll admit that watching this just now gave me some goosebumps. Kid memories are strange and powerful and awesome things.
   22. Sonic Youk Posted: August 06, 2014 at 01:57 PM (#4765632)
It's pretty incredible how many games were made for the SNES that had utterly broken difficulty levels. The aforementioned Battletoads is a great example. The first 2 stages were great, but level 3 is almost literally unbeatable. But tons of kids bought it anyway and spent dozens of hours dying on that level over and over.
   23. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 02:01 PM (#4765633)

There was a time period in the 80s when TMNT was the best cartoon on Saturday morning t.v., at least during the hour we were able to watch before going to Hebrew school. It was a sad day when Captain Planet took over that time slot, although by that point I think I was done with Hebrew School (sadly, my younger brother was not and grew up watching that crap).
   24. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 06, 2014 at 02:04 PM (#4765636)
My favorite cartoon was Star Blazers. I have yet to personally meet anyone since then who watched it or heard of it.

I wanted to quit playing little league baseball because practice overlapped with the Star Blazers time slot on Wednesdays. A couple of years ago there was a live action, CGI-heavy Japanese movie version of Space Battleship Yamato. It looks sort of cool, but isn't great.
   25. Batman Posted: August 06, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4765638)
I heard Kirk Gibson likes TMNT.
   26. Manny Coon Posted: August 06, 2014 at 02:19 PM (#4765651)
Star Blazers is one of the first Japanese shows to come over and like many Japanese cartoons, the people working on it took it more seriously than dreck being shoveled out in the USA by Hanna-Barbera or whoever. Leiji Matsumoto who was the series creator (called Space Battleship Yamato in Japanese), has had a long prolific, respected career. He's also known in the USA for the album length music video to Daft Punk's Discovery album, Interstella 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem.

Based on watching the cartoons my daughter watches, I think American cartoon creators are taking their work much more seriously and making better shows these days. MLP: Friendship is Magic is about a million times better than any previous MLP show for example. I think this trend really started up in the 90's with a lot of the WB cartoons, both the comedies like Animaniacs and their action shows like Batman.
   27. hokieneer Posted: August 06, 2014 at 02:36 PM (#4765666)
I'm 30 years old, and the 3 cartoon I remember likely the most from that time period were TMNT, Gi Joe, and Transformers. Had some toys of each, so good job Hanna-Barbera. Still really like the transformers movie for some reason, nostalgia perhaps.

Sometime in the early 90s when I was ~8 years old X-Men and Batman both came out and they leaps and bounds better than any other cartoon I had seen before. I could probably still watch a season or two of either one of those right now.
   28. Karl from NY Posted: August 06, 2014 at 02:50 PM (#4765683)
I understand the hate for TMNT, at least the cartoon series. It made all cartoons after it need to be overly hip and wisecracky all the time. Some did it well like Animaniacs, but we lost the disciplined vibe of the great 80's adventure cartoons like He-man and Thundercats. I was totally in the right age band to love TMNT but can certainly see where some wouldn't.
   29. Lassus Posted: August 06, 2014 at 03:03 PM (#4765695)
The original indie-press black and white Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle satire published in 1984 - with a specific nod to Frank Miller's Ronin covers - came out over 30 years ago. Which is completely batshit. I remember the event, and my anguish over not buying the first printings, which shot through the roof. 30 years ago. Ow.
   30. Manny Coon Posted: August 06, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4765710)
great 80's adventure cartoons like He-man and Thundercats


I loved He-Man when I young, but rewatching it when I was older, it was just incredibly cheaply made, with piles of re-used sequences in every episode, scripts that seemed like they were written in 10 minutes on a napkin, full of continuity errors and logical inconsistencies, episodes were new characters were done in completely art styles and all manner other issues. It still still fun to watch, but only as nostalgia. Obviously kids don't care so much about that type stuff, but think it would have been better if the people making the shows did.
   31. The District Attorney Posted: August 06, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4765711)
I am, by the way, shocked that there is a woman who is this into Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Hell, I'm surprised when women are really into Star Wars. But at least that has a major female character. And it also depicts a setting that, even independent of specific plot developments, could be inherently interesting to think about. TMNT seems almost like what you would create if you wanted 0% of the little girls in the country to watch your show. Four males are either sitting in a sewer, or beating people up. Well, I guess they could have been robots instead of turtles.
   32. Poster Nutbag Posted: August 06, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4765721)
No love for MASK?
   33. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4765731)

Hell, I'm surprised when women are really into Star Wars. But at least that has a major female character. And it also depicts a setting that, even independent of specific plot developments, could be inherently interesting to think about. TMNT seems almost like what you would create if you wanted 0% of the little girls in the country to watch your show. Four males are either sitting in a sewer, or beating people up. Well, I guess they could have been robots instead of turtles.


April O'Neill was a major character in TMNT, no?

I heard Kirk Gibson likes TMNT.


Hunter Pence thinks the TMNT re-boot was a good idea.
   34. Manny Coon Posted: August 06, 2014 at 03:33 PM (#4765742)
April O'Neill was a major character in TMNT, no?


Don't forgot Irma! The people that make lewd fan art sure haven't!
   35. Greg K Posted: August 06, 2014 at 04:23 PM (#4765801)
Don't forgot Irma!

Wow, I sure forgot her. Perusing her quotes I'm finding a theme...

Irma Langinstein: [the Rat King is about to grab April] Wait, wait! I'll be your hostage. Take me instead!
The Rat King: Call me when you're a TV reporter.
Irma Langinstein: [angry] Dooh... men! You always go for the redheads!

Donatello: See that humongous dish?
Irma: Why thank you Donnatello.
Donatello: Not you, Irma. I mean that satellite dish.
Irma: Hmmph! It's just like a man to choose TV over me!
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: August 06, 2014 at 04:32 PM (#4765812)
hey just seem like the most perfect exemplar of milquetoast boardroom table fad creation... Hey - let's take Garfield's love of lasagna and make it pizza, make the characters teenagers and oh yeah - mutants - to give 'em an edge, leverage the beloved Karate kid franchise maybe with a not-so-sly nod to martial arts cinema genre... and sure, why not name them after painters to pretend it's not as lowbrow as it all sounds. Oh yeah - and don't forget to make them all sound like Spicoli from Fast Times.


As others have mentioned, it was originally intended to be a parody, at the time it came out, the most popular comic books on the newsstands were X-men and Teen Titans(which was basically DC's attempt to ape Mavel's success with the X-men) add in that ninjas were all the rage and Cerebrus was a pig version of Conan the Barbarian and you get Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It was absolutely clearly a parody but at the same time, it was quite good and fun. So it got popular pretty quick.

The Cartoon sucked, it was commercialized in the same way most of the post 80's deregulation cartoons were...it was about presenting toys to sell and not about entertainment. It had very little of the spirit and none of the intelligence of the source material.

Battle of the Planets!


Excellent and by far my favorite cartoon growing up, it came on at 3:00(which is about exactly when I would get home from school and I would run to the house from the bus drop off to try and not miss any of it) I have the Battle of the Planets DVD and the Gatchaman DVD(made in the 1990's I believe, more contemporary anime and the original plots before Battle of the Planets tamed them down....) For some reason, even though G-Force used the same animation as battle of the planets, I didn't like it as much. I just preferred the names Keyop, Jason, Mark, Princess and Tiny over whatever (Ace? Hoot?...etc.... Sure it was more faithful to the source material, but it wasn't what I grew up with.)


I just never really got into the post deregulation cartoon shows, (He-Man being the first, but of course that includes Thundercats, Voltron, Transformers, She-Ra, GI Joe, TMNT etc.... the stories were an insult to a tweener/teenager, even with cool toys)
   37. tfbg9 Posted: August 06, 2014 at 05:06 PM (#4765856)
Speed Racer. Marine Boy. Captain Scarlet. Ultra Man. And all the Warner Bros. cartoons.
   38. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 09:38 PM (#4766004)
I was a huge fan of TMNT as a little kid. Donatello all the way. Mike and Leo were good, too. Raphael could go #### himself. My mom actually worked for the small law firm in Northampton MA that made it's name (and wealth) handling the legal/IP issues of the creator. It was definitely not designed as a cash grab, it just happened to be the right show for the right time and was much more interesting than most of the other kids stuff being put out. I never got into the toys, not in the way I got into He-Man as an even younger child.

The show I watched in middle school was Gargoyles, which was flat out awesome and which if I'm remembering correctly would still be considered awesome in this day and age.

Hunter Pence thinks the TMNT re-boot was a good idea.


I wonder how long it will take for this to stop being funny. I don't think it'll be for a few weeks.
   39. McCoy Posted: August 06, 2014 at 09:55 PM (#4766012)
No love for Robotech?

It's weird but I can't really remember the Saturday morning cartoons of my youth besides the ones I found to be pretty bad such Rubik's Cube and D&D and yet I can remember the after school ones that liked such Transformers, GI Joe, and Ghostbusters.

Just looked at a schedule of 80's cartoons and my god did we get crap. Smurfs, Gummy Bears (which I now recall watching a lot of), Pole Position, various Atari cartoons in the early 80's, Alvin, and so forth. I have no idea why I looked forward to Saturday mornings.
   40. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:17 PM (#4766025)
iirc, jesse thorn claimed that he had a bravestarr lunch box growing up - egads
(i had pac man. the show, not game - it would be years before i played the game)

i remember videotaping the first week of tmnt out of a sense of wtf is this thing going to be? (never liked comics, had never heard of the property). just part of a long line of garbage we had then - there really are quite a lot of good toons now.

   41. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:31 PM (#4766039)
Just looked at a schedule of 80's cartoons and my god did we get crap.


I just had Care Bear flashbacks.
   42. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:40 PM (#4766042)
I just had Care Bear flashbacks.
I watched an embarrassing amount of Smurfs.
   43. Lassus Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:49 PM (#4766045)
Zonk, replying to #1, I think you basically missed/made up the point of how the original actually came about. And the fact that initially there was no board room, and it became initially HUGE among comic book fans because it was a ridiculous send-up of everything that was hyper-popular at the time. The satire SPECIFICALLY referenced the trends of the time, by calling the ninja villains "The Foot", after Daredevil's "The Hand" and - as mentioned - taking insider direct-sales fave Ronin's cover art.

I would certainly agree - HOLY HIPSTER - that it was awesome before it really really wasn't awesome. But it was an indie parody publication that had a very natural groundswell into hyper-popularity.
   44. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:14 PM (#4766054)
I'm too lazy to dig up, but I predict someone else will, the XKCD comic pointing out that the alternating-stress rhythm of the title -- TEEN-age MU-tant NIN-ja TURT-les -- seems to in and of itself communicate something to the human ear. That was an interesting observation.

Here you go. In related news: AR-is-MEN-dy AL-can-TA-ra.
   45. flournoy Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:37 PM (#4766064)
it was awesome before it really really wasn't awesome.


And make no mistake, the '80s cartoon was the former.
   46. Howie Menckel Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:38 PM (#4766065)

just one of many versions by baseball announcers so far of that name.

retired buddy of mine said on one channel it sounded like Oliver North was involved...
   47. Zach Posted: August 07, 2014 at 02:57 AM (#4766122)
I remember thinking they were a ridiculous fad in the 80s. But that rapped theme song makes me realize I didn't know the half of it.

What is it about our culture right now that makes us dig up cheesy but fun pop culture from decades ago and remake it with no soul?
   48. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: August 07, 2014 at 09:22 AM (#4766162)
What is it about our culture right now that makes Michael Bay dig up cheesy but fun pop culture from decades ago and remake it with no soul?


   49. Greg K Posted: August 07, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4766203)
The show I watched in middle school was Gargoyles, which was flat out awesome and which if I'm remembering correctly would still be considered awesome in this day and age.

I remember when that came out...as I recall it seemed to have half the cast of Star Trek: TNG. Sirtis, Frakes and Dorn I recall. Looking up the imdb list it looks like Spiner was on it too. Was there some connection with the producers?
   50. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:35 PM (#4766322)
I'm too lazy to dig up, but I predict someone else will, the XKCD comic pointing out that the alternating-stress rhythm of the title -- TEEN-age MU-tant NIN-ja TURT-les -- seems to in and of itself communicate something to the human ear. That was an interesting observation.


To be fair, the title scans like that in half the shows on.
Isn't he an engineer, who probably thinks in coding?
   51. bigglou115 Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:40 PM (#4766327)
I was a little young for TMNT, but there's video of me running around with a laundry basket on my back pretending to be a turtle. I don't really remember stayed at morning cartoons, I remember after school shows. I was the perfect age for the first generation if power rangers. By the time I outgrew that the first wave of anime was starting and it was all dragonball z all the way.

I do remember Captain Planet and He-Man. But I was more Exo-squad, which was significantly darker than I remembered. I was more likely to read anyway. When I was in first grade I read Michael Crichton's Congo and the tv went mostly silent except for the aforementioned DBZ after that. (Looking back, my parents weren't super careful about what I was exposed to. The first movie I remember seeing was Bram Stoker's Dracula, in theaters. I was 4.)
   52. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:40 PM (#4766328)
In the 90s it was possible to follow TV and movies a lot and have no idea that things were based on comic books. e.g. TMNT, Men In Black, Judge Dredd...
   53. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4766332)
Even as a kid, I had little use for anthropomorphic animals in comics. It's definitely one of my major failings as a fan.

I'm surprised I could tolerate Steve Gerber's Howard the Duck, but I managed to.
   54. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:46 PM (#4766334)
there's video of me running around with a laundry basket on my back pretending to be a turtle


Please tell me you still do this in court at particularly opportune moments.
   55. zonk Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:48 PM (#4766336)
I liked Howard the Duck.

   56. Lassus Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4766337)
I did not.
   57. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4766339)
HTD was, in fact, the only comic I've ever subscribed to. Distribution of that particular title was pretty spotty in my area back in the mid-'70s.
   58. bigglou115 Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:51 PM (#4766343)
HTD was another one I'm not sure my parents paid attention to. I saw that one when I was still in single digits I think. This thread makes me want to yell at my parents.

Edit: I'm of course referring to the live action abomination.
   59. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4766350)

The great after-school cartoon that nobody has mentioned here is "DuckTales". I didn't watch a lot of t.v. growing up but that one might have been my favorite.
   60. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4766352)
Edit: I'm of course referring to the live action abomination.


Are you saying there was an animated incarnation of your parents?

That's awesome.
   61. bigglou115 Posted: August 07, 2014 at 01:02 PM (#4766354)
@60 Yep, I was the little baby that only said "Boing!" in that one Merry Melodies.

How has a group of baseball fans not come up with the steroid addled "Underdog." I still catch myself whistle the theme song.
   62. zonk Posted: August 07, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4766384)

The great after-school cartoon that nobody has mentioned here is "DuckTales". I didn't watch a lot of t.v. growing up but that one might have been my favorite.


Talespin was also good -- and both were descendants of the best single season series in TV history...
   63. Greg K Posted: August 07, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4766599)
I also loved Duckman and Ren and Stimpy as a kid. Though I think those were more evening shows than Saturday morning fare.
   64. Zach Posted: August 07, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4766600)
I was reading through some old Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge comics recently looking for panels I could use in a talk on the avian compass. They were really, really good. I also remember DuckTales fondly.
   65. bigglou115 Posted: August 07, 2014 at 04:37 PM (#4766608)
All these ducks and nobody brings up "the terror that flaps in the night?"
   66. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 05:19 PM (#4766633)
The best after-school cartoon was the Bruce Timm version of Batman. Beautiful art, decent writing, and excellent voice work - particularly Mark Hamill's Joker.
   67. Hysterical & Useless Posted: August 07, 2014 at 05:33 PM (#4766641)
My kids were little when TMNT became a thing, so I got to watch a lot of that with them and enjoyed it. The 1st film was, IMO, quite good too.

They also watched Duck Tales and Talespin, which were pretty good, but Animaniacs was the real standout. My wife & I put that in our Netflix queue right away and watched the whole series. The songs are terrific ("It's a great big universe, and we're all really puny...") and I hope someday to be as great curmudgeon as Slappy Squirrel ("Enough with the singin' already!")

   68. BDC Posted: August 07, 2014 at 06:03 PM (#4766656)
Like Hysterical, I was exactly a generation older than TMNT, so I watched it with BDC Jr. I dunno, it was acceptable. It had a very mild strain of the Rocky-and-Bullwinkle archness that I remember from my childhood. Nothing is as awesome as Rocky & Bullwinkle, so I'm not really comparing, but it was kind of the same spirit. Just as I was amazed to open War and Peace and find Boris and Natasha (or to learn there was actually a Boris Gudunov too), I am sure there are young adults walking into art museums today wondering why all the turtle names.
   69. Greg K Posted: August 07, 2014 at 06:38 PM (#4766684)
I am sure there are young adults walking into art museums today wondering why all the turtle names.

The other three actual humans have been sufficiently infused into my brain that I no longer have turtle associations, but I guess I haven't seen a lot of Donatello's work because to me he is still a turtle.

I'm trying to imagine Brunelleschi or Titian as turtles, and neither seems like it would fit. Though of course, they wouldn't until you had them beat into your 8 year old head.
   70. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: August 07, 2014 at 07:11 PM (#4766695)
Ren and Stimpy
This was during college for me, and what a crazy ######-up thing it was. It was even better when drunk, and I can only assume better still if stoned.
   71. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: August 07, 2014 at 07:24 PM (#4766705)

All these ducks and nobody brings up "the terror that flaps in the night?"

Assuming you mean Darkwing Duck - I enjoyed the few episodes that I saw, but it was pretty much after my time. DuckTales were after my time too, but I had a younger brother who watched them so I absorbed a fair bit.
   72. zack Posted: August 07, 2014 at 07:57 PM (#4766720)
No love for MASK?


It's M.A.S.K., you philistine. I have a great fondness for it because I actually had multiple toys from that series, whereas usually it was one lone toy that had to fit into a different series (like the random figure from C.O.P.S. 'n C.R.O.O.K.S, which I have no recollection of as a show [acronyms were big in the 80's, I guess]).

Plus the bad guys were the Vicious Evil Network of Mayhem. A name that good nearly put me onto a life of terrorism.
   73. zack Posted: August 07, 2014 at 08:03 PM (#4766724)
I'm fairly sure, but too lazy to look it up right now, that the producers of the DuckTales/Talespin/Darkwing Duck hours and Bruce Timm for the Batman/Superman hour are directly responsible for cartoons not being complete crap after that point (unlike HeMan, Jem, Thundercats, etc which are completely garbage as shows).
   74. McCoy Posted: August 07, 2014 at 08:04 PM (#4766725)
Otakon registration was today and they are expecting about 35,000 people for it The line around the convention center looked like it was a mile long.

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