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Tuesday, August 02, 2011

Game Blog:  Brewers 6, Cardinals 2

Craig Counsell, pinch-hitting for Greinke, pops out to second to extend his hitless streak to 45 at-bats.

Counsell appears to be one short of the major league record of 46 consecutive hitless at-bats for a position player, held by Bill Bergen.  Queries on baseball-reference.com, which run back to 1919, show no longer streak.

Counsell’s last hits came on June 8th, when he went 3-3 against the Cardinals.  He has 2 runs scored in his streak, as well as a game-winning RBI on a sacrifice fly.  He has only struck out 5 times during the streak, but also walked only once.

Jay Z Posted: August 02, 2011 at 10:22 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Benji Posted: August 02, 2011 at 08:26 PM (#3891325)
When this came up on Sunday's Met telecast, I was expecting "oh poor Counsell he's a pro he'll snap out of it". Instead Keith Hernandez said "time to hang 'em up". I was shocked by the candor and laughed and laughed.
   2. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: August 02, 2011 at 08:58 PM (#3891339)
Voros and his BAIP "discovery" is cowering in the fetal position somewhere.
   3. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: August 02, 2011 at 09:28 PM (#3891364)
Sure, if he ever thought it applied to hitters. Or called it BAIP. Or didn't understand that sometimes a guy just loses it.
No, not even then.
   4. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 02, 2011 at 09:30 PM (#3891367)
Voros' discovery had nothing to do with hitters.
   5. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: August 02, 2011 at 09:43 PM (#3891373)
Relax. The point wasn't really about Voros. The stats geeks just need to get tweaked now and then.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: August 02, 2011 at 09:44 PM (#3891375)
Sure, if he ever thought it applied to hitters. Or called it BAIP. Or didn't understand that sometimes a guy just loses it.
No, not even then.


and

Voros' discovery had nothing to do with hitters.


Even if it did for some reason apply to hitters, his theory has to do with major league level talent, if a pitcher(or hitter) drops below that level then DIPS has nothing to do with that particular situation. (at least that is the way I understood it)
   7. Lassus Posted: August 02, 2011 at 10:47 PM (#3891404)
EDIT: Never mind.
   8. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 02, 2011 at 11:32 PM (#3891425)
Craig Counsell has made almost $20 million in his career despite a lifetime OPS+ of 79. Good for him, I suppose.
   9. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 02, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3891428)
On one hand you have Craig being thrust in the spotlight on a regular basis despite the repeated failures and on the other you have Tim Dillard who is on the club but so off the radar he might as well be sitting in a cabin in the Northwest Territories. I have doubts he would remember the way to the mound if summoned.
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: August 02, 2011 at 11:52 PM (#3891433)
Craig Counsell has made almost $20 million in his career despite a lifetime OPS+ of 79. Good for him, I suppose.


roughly speaking about $1mil per war, in baseball terms, he's probably underpaid.

To me 79 OPS+ over a career for a utility guy who has appeared in 1600 games really does look like a bargain at $20 mil and 16 seasons.
   11. Jeff R. Posted: August 03, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3891521)
Relax. The point wasn't really about Voros. The stats geeks just need to get tweaked now and then.


I tweaked your mom last night. Talk about Batting Average on Balls In Play!
   12. MM1f Posted: August 03, 2011 at 02:18 AM (#3891531)
I never would have guessed that 2009 was probably Counsell's best year. Weird.
   13. Sleepy's still holding up that little wild bouquet Posted: August 03, 2011 at 02:21 AM (#3891534)
roughly speaking about $1mil per war, in baseball terms, he's probably underpaid.

To me 79 OPS+ over a career for a utility guy who has appeared in 1600 games really does look like a bargain at $20 mil and 16 seasons.


But a 144 career OPS+ against the Cardinals. No wonder he went 3/3 in his last hitting streak.

Err, wait, maybe 100- I just calculated his performance in Busch 2/3. So 144 OPS+ on the road, against the cardinals, so he must have been awful at home against them over the years.
   14. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 03, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3891536)
I tweaked your mom last night. Talk about Batting Average on Balls In Play!


She switch-hits, too.
   15. PreservedFish Posted: August 03, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3891541)
Omar Vizquel makes Counsell look like a ####### chump!
   16. NTNgod Posted: August 06, 2011 at 02:44 AM (#3894066)
Counsell is now 1 for his last 46. Progress!

(or 2 for his last 47, if you prefer)
   17. NTNgod Posted: August 06, 2011 at 04:57 AM (#3894091)
"I'm relieved I hit a ball hard," Counsell said with a wry smile afterward. "It's good."
...
"It's been ugly, it's been bad," Counsell said. "Just to do something right, it's good."

Counsell's success struck a chord in the dugout, as his teammates and coaches celebrated the feat with plenty of smiles and cheers.

"It's big," manager Ron Roenicke said. "It's important when you're feeling for a guy, you want him to do it and then he finally comes through.

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

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