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Sunday, August 17, 2014

Gammons Notes - 8/17/14

PLEASE, please, please tell me Selig didn’t make people watch him poop.

There is no question Rob Manfred can be a very good commissioner, as Tim Brosnan would have been, and so would Bob Iger had baseball been willing to look outside their house…

Manfred is not going to have the hammer [Bud] Selig held over owners, and utilized like Lyndon Baines Johnson. Which is why, as the storm fronts collide between now and 2016, he needs Bill DeWitt to hold together the center. DeWitt was approached early on about throwing his name in for Commissioner, and he declined. But he now may be the most important owner, successful, decent, rational…

Want people to watch past the sixth inning? Limit rosters to 11 pitchers and eliminate the exhausting, boring tic-tac-toe matchups in the last three innings which, among many things, never allows us to see a David Ortiz or Joey Votto bat against a righthanded pitcher in those final innings. Want to cut back on the replay challenges? Start spending the money to develop umpires (read “As They See ‘Em” by Bruce Weber) to understand why there are so few young umpires coming along. Want some younger demographics? Try Giancarlo Stanton and Yasiel Puig and Clayton Kershaw as the faces of the game and stop talking about the good ole days…

there are issues Tony Clark and the new leadership want addressed, from travel (how ‘bout them getaway night games) to ballpark and even visiting clubhouse health issues in some cities. Both clubs and the union want to re-address the draft and international signing issues. The union does not want the draft in any way tied to free agency. Small markets want better balance between won-lost and revenue standings, so that top five markets like the Astros and Cubs are rewarded for poor performance, while well-run franchises the Rays, Athletics and Indians are punished…

Manfred needs a strong, respected leader like DeWitt to step forward, keep perspective and focus his fellow owners on what they have, not what each owner thinks he should have for his own fiefdom.

[Giancarlo] Stanton, according to [Jeffrey] Loria, isn’t going anywhere… If Loria has to backtrack and Stanton does go elsewhere, it likely will be the final nail in his ownership’s coffin. Jeffrey loves the game, he may well have saved baseball in Miami, and now he has a very difficult task moving it forward in a city easily distracted from one star-laden team at a time.

Cuban outfielder Rusney Castillo, liked by one evaluator to a Ron Gant who can play center field, will soon sign, for somewhere from $40M to $70M. The Yankees are big players… There are two side issues involved here. One is that MLB is studying how Cuban players get out to Mexico, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, etc., and who and what is involved in cases that are likened to human trafficking.

The second is a concern some teams have about the calcium Cubans get in their diets. Both Jorge Soler and Jose Iglesias have been sidelined by stress fractures, and one club official says, “any Cuban player we sign in the future will have his bone structure and diet closely monitored. We worry about milk and all calcium intake.”

The District Attorney Posted: August 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM | 54 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: bill dewitt, carlos gonzalez, commissioner, giancarlo stanton, jeffrey loria, marlins, milk, peter gammons, rob manfred, rockies, rumors, rusney castillo, troy tulowitzki, yankees

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   1. bobm Posted: August 18, 2014 at 12:08 AM (#4773245)
More Gammons Notes:

* Anagram for Allan 'Bud' Selig: Laudable sling.

* The Giants are getting tired of Hunter Pence's grumpy act, and are considering shipping him to Milwaukee for Kyle Lohse.

* Nick Markakis is considering an extension with the Orioles, because his son, who suffers from a sprained throat is so enamored with the Orioles mascot it would break his heart to leave.

* The Red Sox hope that this is the year Yoenis Cespedes matures, and with Mookie Betts in the lineup full time, Shane Victorino can relax and stop trying to carry the team.

* Brian Sabean was interested in acquiring Michael Cuddyer in exchange for Juan Gutierrez, but backed off when rumors reached him that Cuddyer is so vain, he tried to get himself digitally inserted into reruns of Magnum P.I., which wouldn't go over well in a clubhouse with disobedient players like Brandon Belt.

* Evan Longoria of the Rays says, "If you thought Allan 'Bud' Selig was critical before, then consider that his name is an anagram for 'Ball leading us'."
   2. TRBMB Posted: August 18, 2014 at 07:47 AM (#4773293)
Outstanding thoughts by a 'Hall of Fame' broadcaster. Leads me to scour the Hall each time I'm there searching for his plaque. Oh, that's right, it's in the Writer's Wing. Next time I'm there, I'll see if I can finally locate the Wing. Is there also an Announcer's Wing, which I never hear mentioned.
   3. Chris Fluit Posted: August 18, 2014 at 08:25 AM (#4773300)
Yes, the writer and announcer wings are behind the plaque room. There is also a kids clubhouse and small bookstore back there.
   4. adenzeno Posted: August 18, 2014 at 09:15 AM (#4773314)
Kind of off the subject, but after the 94 strike, Braves and Cubs game vanished from the Superstations...which has led to 20 years of kids NOT having a baseball game on TV almost every day, both in the afternoon(Cubs day games) and that night (Braves). Now, unless you pay for the Extra Innings package, kids don't see baseball every day now.
Solution?-
1- Allow the Superstations to broadcast every game
2- Make sure there is at least one game a day in the afternoon (I Know, if the Superstation team is not playing it wont matter-figure that out somehow..)

I know that the non TBS/WGN teams did not like having extra Cubs/Braves fans in their home parks, but they WERE in their parks, spending $$ and buying stuff....but it seemed and seems short sighted (no surprise there) to get baseball off of "free" TV where kids could watch all summer and grow up to be paying customers and lifelong baseball fans...

The point here is that the new commish could help with this...
   5. McCoy Posted: August 18, 2014 at 09:27 AM (#4773321)
2008 was the first year that TBS didn't broadcast Braves games nationally. From 1997 to 2006 the amount of games decreased to about 60 over those years. Still a huge chunk of games and of course they didn't vanish and definitely the strike wasn't the reason or impetus for it. The Cubs are also on WGN around 70 games a season though that could be ending.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 09:54 AM (#4773339)
Small markets want better balance between won-lost and revenue standings, so that top five markets like the Astros and Cubs are rewarded for poor performance, while well-run franchises the Rays, Athletics and Indians are punished…

What does this mean?
   7. JJ1986 Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM (#4773359)
I think it means that "revenue sharing" should be tied less to revenue and more to market size so that teams aren't punished for increasing their revenue. It definitely doesn't say that.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM (#4773364)

Kind of off the subject, but after the 94 strike, Braves and Cubs game vanished from the Superstations...which has led to 20 years of kids NOT having a baseball game on TV almost every day, both in the afternoon(Cubs day games) and that night (Braves). Now, unless you pay for the Extra Innings package, kids don't see baseball every day now.
Solution?-
1- Allow the Superstations to broadcast every game
2- Make sure there is at least one game a day in the afternoon (I Know, if the Superstation team is not playing it wont matter-figure that out somehow..)

I know that the non TBS/WGN teams did not like having extra Cubs/Braves fans in their home parks, but they WERE in their parks, spending $$ and buying stuff....but it seemed and seems short sighted (no surprise there) to get baseball off of "free" TV where kids could watch all summer and grow up to be paying customers and lifelong baseball fans...


Why not just put a day game on MLB Network every day? Why cultivate only Cubs and Braves fans?



The second is a concern some teams have about the calcium Cubans get in their diets. Both Jorge Soler and Jose Iglesias have been sidelined by stress fractures, and one club official says, “any Cuban player we sign in the future will have his bone structure and diet closely monitored. We worry about milk and all calcium intake.”


Fidel Castro has been supplying his country with mass quantities of malk (now with Vitamin R!).

   9. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM (#4773366)
Why isn't an editor stapled to Gammo? He rarely writes what he is intending to say...
   10. McCoy Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:22 AM (#4773371)
Why not just put a day game on MLB Network every day? Why cultivate only Cubs and Braves fans?

Not everyone has the MLB network.

Secondly I want to know who these kids are that watched Cubs day broadcasts during their summer vacation. As a kid there was nothing worse than coming home from school and finding the Cubs on instead of after school cartoons. Believe me when I tell you a Shawon Dunston sacrifice bunt is not more exciting to watch than the Transformers and GI Joe.
   11. donlock Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:29 AM (#4773379)
How can a "Hall of Famer" write so poorly and still have worshipful fans? Does he believe everything anyone in baseball tells him? Does he research anything?


Are Cuban players having too much calcium in their diets or not enough? Why Cubans? Is this a very limited sample?

How is Bud Selig like Lyndon Johnson? What is the "hammer"?

It is difficult to recover from surgery in Colorado. Should we evacuate the state? What about all those Olympic athletes who train there? Were they informed?

Can we take up a collection to buy Gammons some periods for his sentences and sneak away with all his commas that set off clauses, that are not clauses but other inane sentences, as Caesar said to Ulysses Grant, in the smaller markets.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:29 AM (#4773380)
MLB Network is in 71 million homes, (TBS, the #1 station, is in 100 million homes).

I guess you could put any team on TBS though. Its not really a Braves or Atlanta-station anymore, its a national station with a national MLB contract. You may as well grant them the rights to televise a day game as part of their current package, just to publicize the game more.
   13. Nasty Nate Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4773393)
Small markets want better balance between won-lost and revenue standings, so that top five markets like the Astros and Cubs are rewarded for poor performance, while well-run franchises the Rays, Athletics and Indians are punished…

What does this mean?


My guess is that he forgot a "not" in the second sentence.
   14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2014 at 11:22 AM (#4773433)
I know that the non TBS/WGN teams did not like having extra Cubs/Braves fans in their home parks, but they WERE in their parks, spending $$ and buying stuff...

I don't think teams cared about Cubs/Braves fans attending games, the issue was televising games into other teams' home markets. How can you justify letting 2 teams have a nationwide TV deal but not the others? And does anyone think if fans could choose which out-of-market team could broadcast to them, the Cubs & Braves would be the top picks?
   15. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: August 18, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4773434)
If this shoddy work keeps up, I've got a good mind to look elsewhere for a former writer who suffered a brain aneurism who now just blogs about baseball on his own site.
   16. Astroenteritis Posted: August 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4773515)
so that top five markets like the Astros and Cubs are rewarded for poor performance


Don't know why, but this always drives me crazy. While Houston is the 4th largest city in the country (and eventually will be third), it is not a top 5 market; it is 10th in TV market size.
Also, the Astros and Cubs are NOT rewarded for their poor performance. Can't speak to the Cubs situation as much, but the Astros poor run of form has been very damaging to the franchise.
I think both the Cubs and Astros have a good plan, but it's just wrong to say they've been rewarded for losing. Even if we're just talking about money going in the owners pockets, they will do better financially if the teams are winning. The Cubs may have maintained decent attendance, but it has cratered in Houston and winning is about the only thing that will bring it back.
   17. TRBMB Posted: August 18, 2014 at 12:32 PM (#4773525)
Yes, the writer and announcer wings are behind the plaque room. There is also a kids clubhouse and small bookstore back there.


What you are referencing is otherwise known as The Hall of Fame Library, within which there is a 'Scribes and Mikemen' exhibit which recognizes the Spink and Frick 'honorees'. Honorees, NOT Inductees. Peter Gammons, and others, in spite of their egos, are NOT Hall of Famers. There are 306 members of The Baseball Hall of Fame, none of whom are Spink or Frick award winners. Those mysterious wings are fiction.
   18. bfan Posted: August 18, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4773564)
Don't know why, but this always drives me crazy. While Houston is the 4th largest city in the country (and eventually will be third), it is not a top 5 market; it is 10th in TV market size


What does this mean? That people in Houston have fewer TVs, per capita? That their market, outside of the Houston SMSA, is practically zero?
   19. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: August 18, 2014 at 12:59 PM (#4773572)
What does this mean? That people in Houston have fewer TVs, per capita? That their market, outside of the Houston SMSA, is practically zero?


It means that while the population of the city is fourth largest among MLB cities, the larger market is only 10th among MLB markets.
   20. valuearbitrageur Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4773584)
If this shoddy work keeps up, I've got a good mind to look elsewhere for a former writer who suffered a brain aneurism who now just blogs about baseball on his own site.


I don't believe Murray Chass has ever publicly disclosed his aneurism.

Or that he flunked high school English.
   21. bobm Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:10 PM (#4773587)
If this shoddy work keeps up, I've got a good mind to look elsewhere for a former writer who suffered a brain aneurism who now just blogs about baseball on his own site.

How about murraychass.com? Did he have an aneurysm?
   22. bfan Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4773590)
Is the line that it is harder to recover from injuries in (high-altitude) Colorado a throw-away line for Gammons, or is there some truth to that, backed by empirical evidence?
   23. valuearbitrageur Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4773595)
The second is a concern some teams have about the calcium Cubans get in their diets. Both Jorge Soler and Jose Iglesias have been sidelined by stress fractures, and one club official says, “any Cuban player we sign in the future will have his bone structure and diet closely monitored. We worry about milk and all calcium intake.”


This can't be true. All Cubans get free healthcare.

I'm tired of the imperialist MLB's disinformation campaign broadcasting expatriate dissidents like Orestes Destrade relentlessly into the motherland to cast false aspersions on the brave sons of the revolution.
   24. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4773599)
How about murraychass.com? Did he have an aneurysm?
Would explain a lot.
   25. Batman Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:16 PM (#4773600)
Believe me when I tell you a Shawon Dunston sacrifice bunt is not more exciting to watch than the Transformers and GI Joe.
But Dunston throwing to first on a routine ground ball had all kinds of possibilities.
   26. Baseballs Most Beloved Figure Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:37 PM (#4773641)
Dunston was the greatest pop-up fielding SS I ever saw. Sort of an anti-Hornsby.
   27. AROM Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:50 PM (#4773676)
But Dunston throwing to first on a routine ground ball had all kinds of possibilities.


Most common was that he'd wait a bit, let the runner think he can beat it out, and at the last second flick his wrist and send the ball to first at about 95 MPH. He wasn't the best shortstop but among the most freakishly talented.
   28. DKDC Posted: August 18, 2014 at 02:30 PM (#4773741)
What does this mean? That people in Houston have fewer TVs, per capita? That their market, outside of the Houston SMSA, is practically zero?


Texas cities aren't really comparable to other cities in terms of population because they aren't really "cities" by the traditional definition.

Basically, 150 years ago, all of the good spots for cities in the US were taken, so they started building massive sprawling suburbs in Texas and called anything within 200 miles of the center part of the "city".
   29. Astroenteritis Posted: August 18, 2014 at 02:53 PM (#4773779)
Texas cities aren't really comparable to other cities in terms of population because they aren't really "cities" by the traditional definition.


There is some truth to this. Houston, for example, occupies an area of 600 square miles. Compare this to Chicago, which covers about 230 square miles. Houston has a very low population density, which I loved when I lived there as I don't like living like a sardine in a can, but it results in horrible traffic. Houston could be described as six or seven "cities" all within one city. Anyway, as for market size, the large area with low population density means there really aren't as many tv sets as more dense cities, many of which have equally dense suburbs surrounding the city itself. But back to not being rewarded for poor performance, having 60% of the market not able to see the games doesn't help anything, either. Thankfully, it looks like the TV deal problem may be resolved in time for next year.
   30. theboyqueen Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:19 PM (#4773919)
San Antonio, for a "city" of well over a million people, seems mostly deserted. I have no idea where all those people are hiding. It's the strangest thing. The comparable California cities -- San Diego and San Jose, are not dense by any means but at least you see people everywhere you look.

Austin has some 850,000 people but feels less like a city than Sacramento.
   31. McCoy Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:25 PM (#4773924)
Dallas, except for the downtown area, feels the same way with even the downtown area feeling like tumbleweed should be drifting by at 11 at night.
   32. theboyqueen Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:32 PM (#4773930)
Also this thread is a prime example of many of the worst aspects of BBTF: snarky pedantry (where in the Magna Carta is it written that "Hall of Famer" refers only to "inductees" and not "honorees"?), pointless potshots at people well past their prime (Gammons was an awesome writer at one time and has never succumbed to the tired cynicism that plagues his contemporary east coast media brethren, which is a feat worth admiring), and an eventual birdwalk into some discussion of geography.
   33. PreservedFish Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:39 PM (#4773937)
What's wrong with geography?
   34. theboyqueen Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:41 PM (#4773940)
Nothing at all. Geography beats cynicism any day of the week.
   35. theboyqueen Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:44 PM (#4773943)
The least dense US city is apparently Charlotte, whose CSA includes some 2.5 million people living in 16(!) counties. I have never been to Charlotte and can't think of a single reason I would ever want to go there.
   36. McCoy Posted: August 18, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4773971)
I think I've been to Charlotte. Either that or it was a colostomy.
   37. DanG Posted: August 18, 2014 at 06:18 PM (#4774056)
Cities in 'red' have no team in MLB. Top US Television Markets:

Rank     Metropolitan Market Regions Areas 
New York 
2 Los Angeles 
3 Chicago 
4 Philadelphia 
5 Dallas
-FtWorth 
6 San Francisco
-Oakland-San Jose 
7 Boston 
8 Atlanta 
9 Washington
DC 
10 Houston 
11 Detroit 
12 Phoenix 
13 Tampa
-StPetersburg 
14 Seattle
-Tacoma 
15 Minneapolis
-StPaul 
16 Miami
-Ft.Lauderdale 
17 Cleveland
-Akron 
18 Denver 
'19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne' 
'20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto'
21 StLouis 
'22 Portland, OR'
23 Pittsburgh 
'24 Charlotte, NC' 
'25 Indianapolis' 
26 Baltimore 
'27 Raleigh-Durham' 
28 San Diego 
'29 Nashville' 
'30 Hartford-New Haven' 
31 Kansas City 
'32 Columbus, OH' 
'33 Salt Lake City' 
34 Cincinnati 
35 Milwaukee 
   38. PreservedFish Posted: August 18, 2014 at 06:21 PM (#4774058)
The least dense US city is apparently Charlotte, whose CSA includes some 2.5 million people living in 16(!) counties. I have never been to Charlotte and can't think of a single reason I would ever want to go there.


I'd be curious to see what the least dense US city looks like. And I bet they've got some good food there, somewhere.
   39. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 18, 2014 at 06:35 PM (#4774066)
Cities in 'red' have no team in MLB.

And the number one city in red doesn't have any baseball team at all, unless you count the Brevard County Manatees and the Lakeland Flying Tigers.
   40. BDC Posted: August 18, 2014 at 07:51 PM (#4774108)
Honestly, I find DFW pretty comparable to LA in "feel" - with the caveat that it's less than half the size and has way fewer famous locales. A fairly centerless urban area, or perhaps one with multiple centers, a car culture, impossibly vast extents of suburb where land seems like a free resource. Sunlight. Spanish. Attitude. I like both places.
   41. Greg Franklin Posted: August 18, 2014 at 07:51 PM (#4774109)
And Mike Crudale.
   42. theboyqueen Posted: August 18, 2014 at 09:45 PM (#4774158)
The "Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto TV market" illustrates how arbitrary these distinctions are. Modesto and Sacramento are in no way part of the same anything other than they are two cities in the same valley. Modesto is roughly equidistant from San Jose and Sacramento (and much closer to the edges of the east bay such as Livermore) and while there are plenty of people commuting from Modesto to the Bay Area for cost reasons, only someone who is truly insane would choose to live in Modesto and commute to Sacramento as Modesto is a pit and the cost of living isn't much different.
   43. theboyqueen Posted: August 18, 2014 at 09:47 PM (#4774161)
impossibly vast extents of suburb where land seems like a free resource


This is not what I get from Los Angeles at all. For all its sprawl it also feels quite densely packed and only seems to end once you hit mountains, desert, ocean, or Mexico.
   44. Baldrick Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:10 PM (#4774187)
Charlotte is surprisingly nice. The downtown actually feels like a downtown, unlike some other cities mentioned here (ahem, Dallas), there's some decent food and some nice bars, and it has a bit of the nice southern feel. Everything outside the downtown is pretty uninteresting. But it's a much nicer city to visit than plenty of others in this country.
   45. The District Attorney Posted: August 19, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4774950)
Gammons was an awesome writer at one time and has never succumbed to the tired cynicism that plagues his contemporary east coast media brethren
For example.
   46. Spahn Insane Posted: August 19, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4774967)
10:

Ha--gotta say, McCoy, I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. Watching the Cubs after school (and yes, even during the summer) on WGN was how I became a fan.
   47. Bunny Vincennes Posted: August 19, 2014 at 09:26 PM (#4774982)
Secondly I want to know who these kids are that watched Cubs day broadcasts during their summer vacation. As a kid there was nothing worse than coming home from school and finding the Cubs on instead of after school cartoons. Believe me when I tell you a Shawon Dunston sacrifice bunt is not more exciting to watch than the Transformers and GI Joe.


This can't even be true. Cartoons vs. Baseball? How is that even a conversation? That's dorksville. Getting home from school to see Bill Buckner's last at bat and then Bruce Sutter? Really GI Joe? Play golf in the morning, have lunch with my grandparents WGN news, Perry Mason and then the Cubs? Yeah. I'd really rather be watching cartoons. If I was watching cartoons back then the Cubs had a night game in St. Louis and it was raining because I'd be outside playing baseball or golf.
   48. Buck Coats Posted: August 19, 2014 at 09:32 PM (#4774987)
Well WGN still shows Cubs (and White Sox) games nationwide, even if not as many as they may once have. But is the decline in games on WGN (and the total removal of Braves games from TBS) because of the league? I've always assumed it was just the Cubs (and Braves and White Sox) decision to do so for financial reasons.
   49. tshipman Posted: August 19, 2014 at 09:54 PM (#4775011)
The least dense US city is apparently Charlotte, whose CSA includes some 2.5 million people living in 16(!) counties. I have never been to Charlotte and can't think of a single reason I would ever want to go there.


Charlotte's pretty nice. Good food. Lots of furniture shops. Weather is nice, and the scenery is pretty pleasant.

Better than anywhere in Texas.
   50. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 19, 2014 at 10:03 PM (#4775024)
why does chris russo have a job?

this is a serious question

he may not be as dumb as a dead dog but he's d8mn close
   51. villageidiom Posted: August 19, 2014 at 10:29 PM (#4775048)
Cities in 'red' have no team in MLB. Top US Television Markets:
Every one of the listed markets has a team in at least one of the big 4 professional sports in America, except one market. But that one market is a couple hours away from at least 3 teams in each league. And they're pretty big in college basketball, too.
   52. theboyqueen Posted: August 19, 2014 at 10:57 PM (#4775064)
You seem to be talking about Hartford-New Haven, but what about Raleigh-Durham?

The ordering of sports in this country is a separate discussion entirely. The fourth professional sport is ice hockey only in the northeast and the upper midwest (and probably the SF Bay and LA area as well). In the northwest it's clearly soccer. In the southwest it's maybe golf? In the southeast its probably NASCAR (assuming NASCAR isn't ahead of MLB and/or the NBA which is probably not a safe assumption). Here in Sacramento it may well be MMA.

Take away the "professional" distinction, and there are many areas where college football is probably ahead of even pro football.
   53. theboyqueen Posted: August 19, 2014 at 11:11 PM (#4775068)
If I didn't know any better, I would have thought Russo was the aneurysm survivor watching that mess. Only one of those two seems to need a nurse to wipe the drool from his chin, and it ain't Gammons.

Gammons' value above the typical northeastern loudmouth media guy is astronomical.
   54. JAHV Posted: August 20, 2014 at 03:06 AM (#4775131)
Secondly I want to know who these kids are that watched Cubs day broadcasts during their summer vacation. As a kid there was nothing worse than coming home from school and finding the Cubs on instead of after school cartoons. Believe me when I tell you a Shawon Dunston sacrifice bunt is not more exciting to watch than the Transformers and GI Joe.


I did this all the time during the summer in Southern California. My grandma had cable (we didn't at home), so I would watch all the baseball I could get when she watched me and my sisters on summer days. That consisted mostly of late 80's, early 90's Cubs and Braves. Shawon Dunston, Ryne Sandberg, Andre Dawson, Mark Grace, Damon Berryhill - it was great. I was a huge fan of Transformers, but I'd watch Cubs baseball over that any day, although that may have been primarily because I couldn't watch very much Angels baseball.

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