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Giancarlo Stanton homers in 1st Yankees at-bat | MLB.com

What a start!

Jim Furtado Posted: March 30, 2018 at 09:35 AM | 47 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Man o' Schwar Posted: March 30, 2018 at 11:49 AM (#5645637)
If he was really any good, he'd be leading the league.
   2. Tin Angel Posted: March 30, 2018 at 11:53 AM (#5645643)
I have no idea what Sterling's call means, at least partially because I can't tell what he's even saying.
   3. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: March 30, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5645717)
According to Mike Axisa over at River Avenue Blues:

He blurted out the Italian phrase “Giancarlo, non si pue de parlo,” which apparently means “Giancarlo, you can not be stopped.” Two obvious problems here. One, Stanton isn’t Italian! The internet tells me he is part Puerto Rican, part Irish, and part African-American. And two, no one knows what the hell that phrase means.


Sterling is just the worst.
   4. Man o' Schwar Posted: March 30, 2018 at 01:17 PM (#5645759)
Sterling is just the worst.

He's like Chris Berman - it was cute at first, but just stop.
   5. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 30, 2018 at 01:32 PM (#5645773)
Finally a topic that everyone can feel good about. How can anyone not love Giancarlo Stanton?

But yeah, that Sterling call was both stupid and incomprehensible. He seems to think that Stanton is part Italian or something. He should've just stuck with "a Stantonian blast", which is still kind of silly but at least within his usual boundaries.
   6. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: March 30, 2018 at 01:50 PM (#5645794)
Finally a topic that everyone can feel good about. How can anyone not love Giancarlo Stanton?


I'm already sick of him as a Yankee.
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 30, 2018 at 01:52 PM (#5645796)
He seems to think that Stanton is part Italian or something.

I believe the premise, such that it is, was that the name Giancarlo is generally of Italian derivation, even if Stanton isn't. In hindsight, the Yankees should probably have required Stanton to change his name to something with more rhyming potential as part of the trade negotiations.
   8. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: March 30, 2018 at 01:54 PM (#5645798)
I believe the premise, such that it is, was that the name Giancarlo is generally of Italian derivation, even if Stanton isn't. In hindsight, the Yankees should probably have required Stanton to change his name to something with more rhyming potential as part of the trade negotiations.


In hindsight the Yankees should have shitcanned Sterling a decade ago. He was a running joke when I lived there and was routinely made fun of by WFAN hosts.
   9. Lassus Posted: March 30, 2018 at 01:56 PM (#5645801)
Finally a topic that everyone can feel good about. How can anyone not love Giancarlo Stanton hate John Sterling?

   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 30, 2018 at 02:02 PM (#5645805)
Sterling is just the worst.

Waldman's close. They're un-listenable. I'd rather have dental work than listen to a Yankee radio broadcast.
   11. bunyon Posted: March 30, 2018 at 04:07 PM (#5645907)
In a vacuum, I would love Stanton. As a Marlin, I liked him. As a Yankee, #### him.
   12. ??'s Biggest Fan! Posted: March 30, 2018 at 05:43 PM (#5645949)
They're un-listenable.

Those two are prime examples of "normalizing"... they've been around so long, people are now overlooking their utter inability to be good at their jobs and are embracing them as unofficial team mascots.
   13. Leroy Kincaid Posted: March 30, 2018 at 06:13 PM (#5645970)
Think it was during a game last year, one of them sarcastically brought up "launch angle" and "exit velocity" after an at-bat and how they didn't know what it was and didn't want to. I don't find it particularly interesting either but they had utter contempt for it and were proud of their ignorance.
   14. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 30, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5645977)
Congratulations, Mr. March.
   15. QLE Posted: March 30, 2018 at 08:38 PM (#5646001)
Those two are prime examples of "normalizing"... they've been around so long, people are now overlooking their utter inability to be good at their jobs and are embracing them as unofficial team mascots.


It seems to be an odd tradition in NYC baseball broadcasting- the same could be said about both Rizzuto and Kiner.

The interesting thing might be figuring out how this became the case- it seems that the standards turned on a dime in the mid-1960s.
   16. Endless Trash Posted: March 30, 2018 at 09:53 PM (#5646019)
I object to "blurted out." His stilted delivery was that of someone who was reading from a piece of paper, which makes it even worse. And yeah, the woman who cuts in is almost as bad. God, talk about ruining a moment.
   17. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 30, 2018 at 10:27 PM (#5646039)
There are several collections of John Sterling's F-ups on YouTube. And not the standard "Hold it, there's a fag on the play" oopsies, or the charming "He hits his head on the wall, and it rolls away" kind of clips. The kind where Sterling confusedly works through the various stages of announcer grief as he incrementally amends his backwards "wait, what happened?" calls.

If Sterling is going to mistakenly treat Stanton as a true Italian paisano, he may as well go all the way and make the cornball home run call "Don't be afraid, Giancarlo, you think I'd make my sister a widow?"
   18. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 30, 2018 at 11:02 PM (#5646064)
In hindsight the Yankees should have shitcanned Sterling a decade ago. He was a running joke when I lived there and was routinely made fun of by WFAN hosts.

And yet whenever he shows up at the Stadium for some ceremony, he invariably gets a long and loud ovation.

Look, millions of people also love Field of Dreams, which is an equally "Beats Me" phenomenon. But the heart often has reasons that reason can't possibly figure out, and baseball has never gone wrong with hokeyness.
   19. bunyon Posted: March 31, 2018 at 07:23 AM (#5646125)
And yet whenever he shows up at the Stadium for some ceremony, he invariably gets a long and loud ovation.

By definition, Yankee fans have no taste.
   20. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: March 31, 2018 at 08:33 AM (#5646131)
Waldman's close. They're un-listenable. I'd rather have dental work than listen to a Yankee radio broadcast.


Sheeeeeeeeeit, I'd rather be Dustin Hoffman in Marathon Man with Laurence Olivier asking me "Is it safe???", over and over again as he relentlessly drilled down through teeth and into the roots and nerves ... than listen to Sterling and Waldman.

   21. Roadblock Jones Posted: March 31, 2018 at 10:03 AM (#5646143)
I may be in the minority but I love John Sterling. His pomposity and ridiculousness is a perfect match for the club he covers, but when he's not engaging in dumb stuff like that (ands screwing up too many calls), I un-ironically admire the rhythm and tone of his voice for baseball on the radio. He's performing a kind of singing. Thuh-uhhh pitch..."

Maybe if he was calling games for my team I'd dislike him more, but on the whole I'm glad he's there.

I don't think Suzyn is anywhere near good but she takes a lot of abuse.
   22. Swoboda is freedom Posted: March 31, 2018 at 10:20 AM (#5646146)
So what should be the Stanton call?

Giancarlo Stanton and delivers?
   23. Blastin Posted: March 31, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5646154)
I may be in the minority but I love John Sterling. His pomposity and ridiculousness is a perfect match for the club he covers, but when he's not engaging in dumb stuff like that (ands screwing up too many calls), I un-ironically admire the rhythm and tone of his voice for baseball on the radio. He's performing a kind of singing. Thuh-uhhh pitch..."

Maybe if he was calling games for my team I'd dislike him more, but on the whole I'm glad he's there.

I don't think Suzyn is anywhere near good but she takes a lot of abuse.


I don't listen to just the radio (I listen to it with gameday on), so I don't really care he's bad at describing things. I like his dumb, goofy voice.

Waldman is... well there was a long, good profile on her a few years back, and the abuse she took coming up in the industry made me vow never to really be mean to her. She's worked hard (and there isn't a whole lot she can do about her voice).

They are like old relatives who complain about newfangled stats, and I have a lot of affection for that. Maybe it's because my job is basically public speaking and presentations (I do employee training/curriculum development) and I hardly have a deep, soothing voice myself, especially when excited, but I do my job well.
   24. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 31, 2018 at 11:15 AM (#5646158)
If more than three people are looking at this thread, and if you've got 15 minutes to spare, this may be the greatest baseball video ever uncovered, and I mean that seriously. A friend of mine just sent it to me off YouTube, and I'll probably start a thread on it on Monday, but here's a sneak preview.

Apr. 14, 1931 - Scenes at a Yankees vs Red Sox Game, NYC (real sound)

It's a very high quality Movietone Sound Camera film of the Yanks' 1931 opener, Joe McCarthy's first game as a manager, and it features vivid scenes of the Babe and Lou in batting practice and at bat in the game, the Babe and his wife talking to each other, Earl Combs, Wilcy Moore, Gentleman Jimmy Walker (the NYC Mayor), the flag raising ceremony, crowd shots (everyone is dressed up) with panoramic views of Yankee Stadium and the neighboring El and apartment buildings, and a whole lot more, all with sound in real time. I've never seen anything remotely like it before. It's a perfect time capsule.
   25. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: March 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM (#5646159)
Nice. I don't have time to watch the whole thing now, but I will. I assume that was the opposing manager talking to McCarthy. What was the hat with the "L", or was that some weird team logo at the time?
   26. Captain Supporter Posted: March 31, 2018 at 11:38 AM (#5646162)
By definition, Yankee fans have no taste.


Yes, they lack the kind of taste and class that your comment indicates that you obviously possess.
   27. Howie Menckel Posted: March 31, 2018 at 11:52 AM (#5646165)
Sterling explained that Happ was making his first start of the year, then added, "well, obviously, since it's Opening Day."

a little later, there was booth chatter re Nunez' inside-the-park home run for Boston, and how it happened. Sterling said that Jorge Posada always used to tell him that the only way he could ever get A GRAND SLAM was if all three outfielders fell down.

a more careful listener can find more than a dozen of these every game.
   28. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 31, 2018 at 12:15 PM (#5646169)
Nice. I don't have time to watch the whole thing now, but I will. I assume that was the opposing manager talking to McCarthy. What was the hat with the "L", or was that some weird team logo at the time?

I wondered about that, too, and about all I can think of is that the "L" stood for "Leader", as you sometimes see a "C" for "Captain" on some of today's uniforms. Admittedly a stab in the dark.**

And yes, from the looks of his BB-Reference page photo, that was indeed Shano Collins, the Red Sox manager. Only in that photo his cap has the "S" for "Sox" on it. Looks like it was also his managerial debut that day.

One other thing I forgot to mention: Notice that the Yanks have numbers on the back of their jerseys, but no interlocking "NY" on the front. They had the "NY" briefly from 1912 through 1916, but then dropped it from 1917 through 1934, the Babe's last year, before reviving it in 1935. So ironically Ruth never got to wear the home uniform that we associate with the Yankees in our collective memories.

** Although given that the Red Sox had finished last for the previous six years, there may have been an alternative explanation for the "L". (smile)
   29. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM (#5646172)

It seems to be an odd tradition in NYC baseball broadcasting- the same could be said about both Rizzuto


Totally disagree. Even in his dotage Rizzuto was fun to listen to. In his prime, with Bill White and Frank Messer he was excellent. He was the comic relief. White was the straight man. And it worked.
   30. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 31, 2018 at 12:33 PM (#5646173)
Waldman is... well there was a long, good profile on her a few years back, and the abuse she took coming up in the industry made me vow never to really be mean to her. She's worked hard (and there isn't a whole lot she can do about her voice).

I don't care how good she is. Somebody with that irritating a voice shouldn't be employed in radio.
   31. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 31, 2018 at 12:34 PM (#5646174)
Seriously,watch the video linked in 24. It's wonderful. In addition to all the points made in 24, it underscores how little effort pitchers made at the time. Both starters were just slinging it in. I think the 'L' hat was actually a red sock logo.
   32. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 31, 2018 at 12:45 PM (#5646175)
I think the 'L' hat was actually a red sock logo.

Just checked my copy of Mark Okkonen's Baseball Uniforms of the Twentieth Century, and that's exactly what it is. Good catch.

EDIT: And it's also on the Baseball Uniforms Database.
   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 31, 2018 at 12:57 PM (#5646179)
The Left Field configuration for Yankee Stadium is remarkably different in Andy's boyhood home movie linked in #24. Lot of work for the CFer. Flag appears to be at half mast, possibly for the April 9th death of Speaker of the House Nicholas Longworth.
   34. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: March 31, 2018 at 01:07 PM (#5646180)
Totally disagree. Even in his dotage Rizzuto was fun to listen to.


Agree. Rizzuto was that daft uncle whose fastball slips and yet still tells you the same entertaining stories over and over again, Sterling is the uncle who won't ever shut up about "chemtrails" and the (((Bilderbergs))) ...
   35. QLE Posted: March 31, 2018 at 01:22 PM (#5646185)
#24-

Quite- the person with that YouTube account has been uploading quite a bit of material from the Movietone archives, and I've found much of what they've been uploading fascinating.
   36. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 31, 2018 at 01:46 PM (#5646191)
The Left Field configuration for Yankee Stadium is remarkably different in Andy's boyhood home movie linked in #24. Lot of work for the CFer.

You're right about the changes in the Stadium between 1931 and the Stadium within yours and my living memories. If you look at Clem's Baseball Yankee Stadium page, you can see all the changes between 1928/1931 and 1938, which is when the final configuration of the original Yankee Stadium took place. The most noticeable difference was the extension of the upper decks into right field, along with the changes in the field dimensions that you mention. The foul lines were the same as before, and Death Valley remained at 402, but then going from LCF to CF to RCF with the 1928 distances listed first, it changed from 457 to 460, from 461 to 490, and from 407 to 429. From there to the RF line it was pretty much the same from 1928 to 1973, although the bleachers were reconfigured to expand the seating even more. The unofficial record for attendance at Yankee Stadium was set on Memorial Day of 1938, allegedly 81,891**. I can imagine that the fire marshals earned a whole lot of baksheesh that day.

** The day after that doubleheader, the Times gave the attendance as 83,533. The gross receipts were a whopping $91,610, which shows us that this was definitely not the era of the Luxury Box.
   37. Man o' Schwar Posted: March 31, 2018 at 02:22 PM (#5646204)
Bilderbergs

Off topic, but if you haven't read Jon Ronson's book on people's obsession with the Bilderbergs, it's a great read. It's called Them: Adventures with Extremists, and also covers things like Ruby Ridge, Waco, the KKK, Northern Ireland, Osama bin Laden, etc.

*back to your regularly scheduled hating on Sterling*
   38. Greg Pope Posted: March 31, 2018 at 07:47 PM (#5646322)
In hindsight, the Yankees should probably have required Stanton to change his name to something with more rhyming potential as part of the trade negotiations.

Maybe something like "Mike"?
   39. RMc Has Bizarre Ideas to Fix Baseball Posted: March 31, 2018 at 07:53 PM (#5646323)
both stupid and incomprehensible

Classic Sterling!
   40. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: March 31, 2018 at 08:22 PM (#5646330)
Rizzuto


Phil Rizzuto was the greatest broadcaster to ever call a game. I cannot see into the future, but I find it highly likely that this will remain the case no matter how many games are ever called by whoever will call them.
   41. eric Posted: March 31, 2018 at 08:35 PM (#5646334)
That video in 24 really is excellent.

it underscores how little effort pitchers made at the time. Both starters were just slinging it in.


The Red Sox pitcher nearer to the end (13:30 or so) really seemed to be giving effort. Every pitcher in that video had their own pitching style. Some guys were junk-ballers, others were more power pitchers. I think trying to generalize the entire generation based on a handful of pitches from one or two pitchers would be like trying to generalize 10 years ago based off of Tim Wakefield.
   42. Srul Itza Posted: March 31, 2018 at 09:05 PM (#5646337)
crowd shots (everyone is dressed up)


And just about every grown man is wearing a hat.
   43. eric Posted: March 31, 2018 at 09:24 PM (#5646341)
And just about every grown man is wearing a hat.


I also noticed the seating was not racially segregated.
   44. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 01, 2018 at 09:32 AM (#5646418)
Hats went out of style in the 60s, generally attributed to JFK not wearing one. And the styles that the older generations wore were impractical.
   45. McCoy Posted: April 01, 2018 at 09:42 AM (#5646420)
And just about every grown man is wearing a hat.

Most people wear hats during day ball games nowadays too.



In regards to JFK hats were declining before JFK came along during the 1960 campaign. It's possible that he tapped into the zeitgeist of the era with his hairdo because heading into the end of the 1960's and into the 70's wearing a hat would not be practical with the hairdo men were going with.
   46. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: April 01, 2018 at 02:50 PM (#5646487)
into the 70's wearing a hat would not be practical with the hairdo men were going with.

I beg to differ.
   47. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: April 02, 2018 at 08:18 AM (#5646652)
Totally disagree. Even in his dotage Rizzuto was fun to listen to. In his prime, with Bill White and Frank Messer he was excellent. He was the comic relief. White was the straight man. And it worked.


I think this gets underrated when announcers are employed and it's especially unimportant when you are talking about tv where the viewer can see what's going on. Having someone enjoyable to listen to is a big plus. The Red Sox switched a couple years ago from the very good and goofy Don Orsillo to Dave O'Brien. O'Brien is what you would get if you had a computer design a broadcaster. He's got great pipes, knows the game, punches it at the right moments and lets the moment speak when it needs to...and I don't know anyone who doesn't want Orsillo back. Entertaining your audience is part of the job.

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